Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
10086sunset
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/8/16
#1Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:03pm
http://nypost.com/2017/02/07/disappointed-josh-groban-fans-are-sobbing-on-broadway/
Riedel really needs to pick it up...
#2Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:11pm
The only interesting thing about this article is the end, where it's mentioned that Groban's replacement will be announced soon.
#3Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:19pm
Wasn't it already announced that Dave Malloy is replacing Josh?
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Broadway Legend Joined: 8/31/15
#4Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:20pm/ Updated On: 10/21/20 at 07:20 PM
#5Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:21pm
jacobsnchz14 said: "Wasn't it already announced that Dave Malloy is replacing Josh?
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Malloy will be playing the role in the spring at certain dates when Groban has scheduled days off, but it hasn't been announced if he's replacing him full time.
sassylash3s
Stand-by Joined: 7/5/11
#6Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:21pm
Dave Malloy is playing the role for a few of Groban's scheduled absences. I don't believe they've announced a full-time replacement at this point.
#7Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:47pm
Wow, Riedel continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to his "scoops".
#8Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 7:55pm
FYI I was not one of the sobbing fans.... LOL
Whateverjsays
Featured Actor Joined: 7/12/16
Hairspray0901
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/29/08
#10Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 8:40pm
I saw the show on Sunday (without Groban). I don't think he would have made a difference in my opinion of the show. I do however wish I took up the box office attendee when she offered me a refund...
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#11Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 8:45pm
Did nobody tell Riedel there's some bigger stuff happening today?
#12Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 8:46pm
A woman who overheard the exchange threw in her two cents: “I’ve been sick, too, and I turned up for work!”
yeah, Linda who sits in a cubicle doing data entry, it's totally the same thing.
#13Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 8:52pm
Also, he mentions that the producers are legally required to refund/reschedule tickets if an above-the-title star is out. I recall seeing here that it's a tradition, but not a law. Right?
willep
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/08
#14Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 9:11pm
I love the show, but it's clear from the dip this past week that a lot of people are coming to see Groban (surprise, surprise). Based on that quote from Kagan, it seems like they aren't going for a name to replace Groban, which could hurt them.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#15Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 9:42pm
MarkBearSF said: "Also, he mentions that the producers are legally required to refund/reschedule tickets if an above-the-title star is out. I recall seeing here that it's a tradition, but not a law. Right?"
Correct! Not the law. Riedel is mistaken but what else is new?
smidge
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/06
#16Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 11:30pm
Riedel's reporting makes him a natural for next press secretary.
#17Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/7/17 at 11:44pm
I think it's quite kind that he tells the people to stay AND he'll still give them tickets to return and see Groban. Is that normal? I understand offering people the opportunity to exchange, but to see the show with the understudy AND come back to see Groban? That's pretty generous, no?
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#18Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 12:18am
neonlightsxo said: "MarkBearSF said: "Also, he mentions that the producers are legally required to refund/reschedule tickets if an above-the-title star is out. I recall seeing here that it's a tradition, but not a law. Right?"
Correct! Not the law. Riedel is mistaken but what else is new?"
Wrong. Putting an actor above the title gives the audience an expectation that (s)he will be performing in the show. The laws concerning false advertisement govern in these situations.
#19Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 12:40am
@Fosse, kindly post these laws.
Hint: this is not going to end well for you.
#21Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 5:14am
adamgreer said: "I think it's quite kind that he tells the people to stay AND he'll still give them tickets to return and see Groban. Is that normal? I understand offering people the opportunity to exchange, but to see the show with the understudy AND come back to see Groban? That's pretty generous, no?"
If/Then did the same thing when Idina called out...
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
#22Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 9:24am
HogansHero said: "@Fosse, kindly post these laws.
Hint: this is not going to end well for you."
Actual LOL, Hogan.
And indeed, David Stone did the same thing for If/Then. It's quite generous, but not good for the bottom line.
#23Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 10:57am
neonlightsxo said: "t's quite generous, but not good for the bottom line."
actually, it has no effect at all. If the choice is stay and come back vs. leave and come back, in that moment the value of today's ticket is zero. The worse outcome is leave and don't come back.
neonlightsxo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/08
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#25Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 12:01pm
350-a. False advertising. 1. The term "false advertising" means advertising, including labeling, of a commodity, or of the kind, character, terms or conditions of any employment opportunity if such advertising is misleading in a material respect. In determining whether any advertising is misleading, there shall be taken into account (among other things) not only representations made by statement, word, design, device, sound or any combination thereof, but also the extent to which the advertising fails to reveal facts material in the light of such representations with respect to the commodity or employment to which the advertising relates under the conditions prescribed in said advertisement, or under such conditions as are customary or usual.
The show is advertised as starring Josh Groban. He is therefore part of the product they are selling. Unless his absence is pre-announced for specific dates prior to the availability of tickets for such dates, ticket buyers are entitled to a refund.
#26Riedel on Josh Groban's disappointed fans
Posted: 2/8/17 at 12:06pm
I don't think a star's absence from a show due to illness can be construed as "false advertising."
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