Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#1Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 7:25am
Allegedly, XANADU returned a total of 0.5% of its original investment. Can't tell if this is a Riedel quip or legit. Could be both.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09242008/entertainment/theater/nurturing_the_well_known_130468.htm
#2re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 7:43amI can't say I disagree with him on the choice of giving the cash award to Kushner.
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#2re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 7:48amAgreed, but the large chip on his shoulders about Kushner's politics detracts from the whole point. Looks like Riedel's been saving all those sarcastic quips for just the right moment.
#3re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 8:03am
It's a great column. Any opportunity to ****an overrated hack like Kushner is fine with me.
ANGELS IN AMERICA was a bore along with everything else he has written.
Go Riedel!
#4re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 8:37amwhat a joke! an cash award of $200,000 to an already well established playwright.
#5re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 8:42amThank God someone called those award people out. I love Tony Kushner, but he really didn't need the money. I wish they would've given it to someone emerging, and not like Adam Rapp or Adam Bock emerging. Actually emerging. Like Jordan Harrison or Julia Cho or Beau Willimon.
barcelona20
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/19/08
#6re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:16amWhat does Riedel mean exactly, when he says they returned .5% to investors. That they made .5%, or that they lost basically everything?
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#7re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:19am
1. My running theater-joke for weeks has been about Kushner getting the prize, as opposed to someone like, say, Sarah Ruhl. But she won the Genius Award, so does she count?
2. Re: XANADU - Don't know whether it's a joke or truth (I'm inclined to believe the latter). Making .5% and losing everything is virtually the same idea. The producers have been pumping $$ into it for a long time now.
#8re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:21amThe way it's written would indicate a gain, so if someone invested $1,000,000, they got back $1,005,000, which is better than the stock market lately.
Midnight Radio
Broadway Star Joined: 5/26/07
#9re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:26am
.5% would mean that if you invested $100, you would make back 50 cents and lose $99.50.
I HIGHLY doubt that is true or the show would have been gone a long time ago.
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#10re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:28am
This, to you, indicates a gain?
"BROADWAY shows are dropping like Playbill cast-change inserts.
"Xanadu" goes down Sunday, distinguishing itself by having run nearly 600 performances and returning just .5 percent to its investors.
It's a hit!"
#11re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:32amWho was looking after those books?
#12re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 9:47amwhat the hell cost that much at xanadu? the set and costumes don't seem all that ridiculously expensive looking.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#13re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:12am
It's been grossing less than $200K for quite a while. You have to think of salaries, royalties, advertising as well as the initial expenses of mounting a show.
If I were an investor I'd be very curious how much that whole Cubby Bernstein fiasco cost.
#14re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:21am
Wow, I never imagined XANADU made THAT little money, especially with its low running costs and the pretty neat grosses it made during Whoopi's stay (I imagine that's where the .5% came from).
I love his little mention of A TALE OF TWO CITIES, seriously wonder when they will be posting their closing notice as well. And once again, he uses his column to promote a new unknown piece which I think is pretty neat, good for FELA!
#15re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:28am
I totally agree that Kushner is an odd, unimaginative choice for the award, but Reidel's commentary lost wit and just became nasty and bitter-sounding. There, there, Michael...one day maybe you'll be paid the big bucks for...whatever it is you do.
"Fela!" - which may give "Billy Elliot" a real run at the Tonys."
Uh, Michael? FELA got very mixed reviews.
#16re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:34am
FELA! got a rave from Brantley.
IN THE HEIGHTS got very mixed reviews this past season, while PASSING STRANGE and XANADU got raves, and look who walked away the big winner.
Reviews don't mean much when it comes to awards.
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
RentBoy86
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/15/05
#17re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:37amYeah, Fela's reviews weren't that great, and the piece seems rather boring to me.
#18re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:47am
A lot of the FELA! reviews I read were very positive. Is it definitely transferring though...?
I mean I don't see it being much of a hit on Broadway. I'm smelling a repeat a la PASSING STRANGE.
They should just keep it where it is, make a respectable amount of money, and close quietly. Moving it to Broadway, especially this season, seems like a death sentence.
#19re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:48am
'What the hell cost that much at Xanadu?'
WHOOPIE! Thats what!
#20re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 10:49am
If they keep it where it is, it is not going to make a dime.
Riedel said in a previous column that the show cost at least $1,000,000 to mount, and in order to make money, they were planning on transferring to Broadway, given that it received promising reviews.
Not to mention, has any show that played 37 Arts ever made a dime?
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
WOSQ
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/03
#21re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 11:00am
Michael Riedel was not awarded a MacArthur Grant.
Does this mean he will start dumping on Jennifer Tipton? I mean she is vastly successful.
Sarah Palin did not get a 'Genius Grant". Does this mean she's not a genius? What says the NY Post to that question?
#22re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 11:56amWhat do you mean it would be a death sentence to transfer the show this season. It's not like there are that many anticipated new musicals, the only two I can think of are BILLY ELLIOT and 9 TO 5. TALE OF TWO CITIES is a bomb, 13 will not make it to the end of the year, are there any other new musicals opening soon? Either way, I really don't see how opening FELA this season would be a bad thing. Now, I'm not sure this is the kind of show that could survive on Broadway, especially after PASSING STRANGE was forced to fold relatively quickly, but the producers know they won't make a dime if they stay off-Broadway.
#23re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 12:29pmI REALLY want "Fela" to transfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mattbrain
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/23/05
#24re: Riedel on Kushner's Newest Award; Xanadu's Closing
Posted: 9/24/08 at 1:29pm
ray, when you say that Tale is a bomb, do you mean in terms of critical reception or finance or quality or all of the above?
Edit: Do shut up, Mr. Riedel.
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