Shows that We (BWW) has Overestimated

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Shows that We (BWW) has Overestimated

Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:32pm

What shows have we been wrong about? When they were announced we all expected strong ticket sales and lengthy runs but found the opposite.

Company Revival - Many of us expected it to be a huge success with tickets difficult to find even in the winter. Raul was said to easily win the Tony and people began speculating replacement casts before it opened.

9 to 5 - Coming out of LA people who saw the show were saying that this show was bound to last and was going to be real competition for Billy Elliot.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:34pm

the revival of company was critically acclaimed and raul esparza's loss that year at the tonys was the biggest shocker of the night.

...everyone was doing the mambo and drinking golden cadillacs...

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:38pm

There were gads of people that were POSITIVE that neither ROA nor N2N would be critical OR public successes.

Edit: oops -- didn't read the thread title just the thread. My bad.

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Updated On: 8/5/09 at 05:38 PM

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:39pm

That would be underestimated.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:50pm

"raul esparza's loss that year at the tonys was the biggest shocker of the night."

No, it wasn't.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:53pm

Then what was..

Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 5:57pm

O I believe it was the biggest surprise that night.

Genius lasts longer than beauty.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 6:06pm

no question that his loss was the biggest shocker.

...everyone was doing the mambo and drinking golden cadillacs...

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 6:10pm

Tons of people said Natalie Toro would win/atleast get nominated for Tale out of Sarasota; didn't happen. Also: Christopher Sieber was a lock for a win for Best Featured Actor this year, didn't happen.

EDIT: I guess those actually aren't shows? Oops, well they were still overestimated!

Updated On: 8/5/09 at 06:10 PM

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 6:38pm

The first one that comes to mind is, as stated before, 9 to 5. I bought tickets for the Broadway run after reading the excellent reviews on this board when the show was in LA. Then it came to Broadway, and even most of the posts on here were positive then. The show opened, was reviewed by critics, then died, and people sort of stopped championing it...I still liked it, and didn't regret buying tickets, but it was certainly overestimated.
Other things I can think of are Cry-Baby, A Catered Affair, etc.
Also not exactly overestimated by posters here, but I remember the first time I heard about Glory Days was in an article (on braodway.com, I believe) entitled something like "New Musical Glory Days announced- could it be a surprise Best Musical Winner?" or something like that. That is the biggest overestimization ever, I would think...

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 6:40pm

Back when Broadway.com had a blog, the blogger had said that 'Glory Days' could shake up the Tony's. Little did he know...
ETA: Bwayfan7000 beat me to it.

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Updated On: 8/5/09 at 06:40 PM

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 6:46pm

Raul's Tony loss was definitely the biggest shocker of that Tony ceremony.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 7:08pm

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say The First Wives Club.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 7:34pm

People were handing LoveMusik and A Catered Affair many Tony awards before the shows were seen by any paying audience.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 8:09pm

Raul's loss had me screaming at the TV, so it was definitely MY biggest shocker of the evening. All of the other nominees deserved it over Pierce, really.

I'm sure we all thought Little Mermaid was going to be a huge commercial smash, despite the reviews.

A Catered Affair was wildly anticipated here.

Updated On: 8/5/09 at 08:09 PM

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 8:48pm

I loved it when LoveMusik flopped massively, and all the broadway legends who thought they knew everything looked so stupid with LoveMusik scattered throughout their tony predictions.

A little known fact is that in the original screenplay, Pan's Labyrinth was Pan's FLAByrinth. Hmmmmmmm...glad they changed it.

Updated On: 8/5/09 at 08:48 PM

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 9:57pm

EQUUS. Everyone thought it would be a sellout smash for its entire run, but enthusiasm (sadly) quickly evaporated and it was readily available on TDF for weeks.

It probably would be a huge hit NOW.

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 11:07pm

If it wasn't a hit last fall, why do you think "Equus" would be a huge hit now?

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Posted: 8/5/09 at 11:22pm

A lot of folks thought that Cheno in The Apple Tree was a terrific idea. They were wrong.

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Posted: 8/6/09 at 8:12am

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Every flop hopes to find its' niche, and every flop is over estimated.

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Posted: 8/6/09 at 10:27am

Glory Days was also on a lot of Tony Prediction threads... Which is just amazing.

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Posted: 8/6/09 at 10:48am

If it wasn't a hit last fall, why do you think "Equus" would be a huge hit now?

Cross-promotion with Harry Potter.

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Posted: 8/6/09 at 10:54am

I definitely thought LoveMusik was going to be amazing based on what I was reading on here. I wanted to put papercuts on my eyelids with my playbill throughout though.

Cry-Baby was a mess as well.

::bust a move::

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