#76
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:27pm
Oh, "Up in the Garret". I dunno. Maybe slightly, rhythmically as you mentioned, but that's about it.
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#77
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:28pm
"Stick to the Status Quo" from High School Musical is VAGUELY reminiscent of "You Can't Stop the Beat" from Hairspray"
Agreed, I always cringe when I hear the exact "You Can't Stop the Beat" drum groove, organ and guitar riffs" on Disney Channel.
The funny thing about it is that Marc Shaiman seemed to deliberately lift exact chord progressions and grooves from various 60's hits for his Hairspray score, yet he still created completely new and original pieces. (This isn't stealing, it's being a f**ing genius) Examples:: "Nicest Kids in Town" = "Johnny Be Goode" "It Takes Two"= "Sea of Love" "I Know Where I've Been" = "Georgia". If you've ever heard an orchestra rehearsal for Hairspray you could easily sing the 60s melodies and lyrics over the orchestrations.
An example of this sort of thing that I wasn't as impressed with was "The Heat is on in Saigon" which is the exact rhythm track from Three Dog Night's "Mama Told Me Not to Come".
Agreed, I always cringe when I hear the exact "You Can't Stop the Beat" drum groove, organ and guitar riffs" on Disney Channel.
The funny thing about it is that Marc Shaiman seemed to deliberately lift exact chord progressions and grooves from various 60's hits for his Hairspray score, yet he still created completely new and original pieces. (This isn't stealing, it's being a f**ing genius) Examples:: "Nicest Kids in Town" = "Johnny Be Goode" "It Takes Two"= "Sea of Love" "I Know Where I've Been" = "Georgia". If you've ever heard an orchestra rehearsal for Hairspray you could easily sing the 60s melodies and lyrics over the orchestrations.
An example of this sort of thing that I wasn't as impressed with was "The Heat is on in Saigon" which is the exact rhythm track from Three Dog Night's "Mama Told Me Not to Come".
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#78
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:33pm
The funny thing about it is that Marc Shaiman seemed to deliberately lift exact chord progressions and grooves from various 60's hits for his Hairspray score, yet he still created completely new and original pieces. (This isn't stealing, it's being a f**ing genius)
Oooo... strongly disagree on that one.
Oooo... strongly disagree on that one.
#79
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:35pm
I've heard "We Need A Little Christmas" compared to several songs here but I've always thought it sounded exactly like "I Love To Cry At Weddings" from Sweet Charity. Same year, too!
#80
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:43pm
"Oooo... strongly disagree on that one."
Just curious - do you disagree with me about the 1960s chord progressions and grooves being "borrowed" for the Hairspray score? It is just my observation, not something I could prove.
On the other hand, Marc Shaiman being a f**ing genius is an indisputable fact.
Just curious - do you disagree with me about the 1960s chord progressions and grooves being "borrowed" for the Hairspray score? It is just my observation, not something I could prove.
On the other hand, Marc Shaiman being a f**ing genius is an indisputable fact.
"I have got to have some professional music!" - Big Edie
#81
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:48pm
I remember noticing the "No One is Alone/"Candyman" thing.
Years ago, I was convinced that Andrew Lloyd Webber stole the melody for the line "the keys to the vaults of heaven" from the line "a dream is a wish your heart makes" (from Cinderella). The melodies aren't really the same, but they were similar enough to make me wonder.
Years ago, I was convinced that Andrew Lloyd Webber stole the melody for the line "the keys to the vaults of heaven" from the line "a dream is a wish your heart makes" (from Cinderella). The melodies aren't really the same, but they were similar enough to make me wonder.
#82
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:52pm
Actually, he was sued or something because the song sounded too similar to the theme from Jurassic Park! (But yeah, there's a reason why I said in the first post that nothing by ALW counted!)
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#83
Posted: 1/5/09 at 5:55pm
On the other hand, Marc Shaiman being a f**ing genius is an indisputable fact.
I think "borrowing" is stealing and I don't think he's a genius. Just because he posts here doesn't mean I have to kiss ass like everyone else. Just not a fan.
I think "borrowing" is stealing and I don't think he's a genius. Just because he posts here doesn't mean I have to kiss ass like everyone else. Just not a fan.
#84
Posted: 1/5/09 at 6:00pm
"I think "borrowing" is stealing and I don't think he's a genius"
You are of course welcome to your opinion.
I'm not "kissing ass" because he posts here, I just think Shaiman is one of the only composers creating actual musical theatre scores currently, and Hairspray is a masterpiece.
You are of course welcome to your opinion.
I'm not "kissing ass" because he posts here, I just think Shaiman is one of the only composers creating actual musical theatre scores currently, and Hairspray is a masterpiece.
"I have got to have some professional music!" - Big Edie
Updated On: 1/5/09 at 06:00 PM
#85
Posted: 1/5/09 at 6:02pm
How can you claim it to be an actual musical theatre score when you're admitting that it's all borrowed?
#86
Posted: 1/5/09 at 7:16pm
I don't think I'm the only one who considers Hairspray to be a great score.
Yes, some of the grooves and chord progressions are remarkably similar to various 1960s hits. Guess what - lots of popular music uses similar chord progressions and grooves - that doesn't mean that anything has been stolen. I consider Hairspray's songs to be great theater writing, both melodically and lyrically, regardless of how familiar the chord progressions might be.
What's difficult to explain is that I feel that the way "Stick to What You Know" exactly copied the groove and styling of "You Can't Stop the Beat" was really lame, while I think it's amazing that Shaiman was able to create "I Know Where I've Been", a beautiful song that just happens to have a similar harmonic structure to "Georgia".
Yes, some of the grooves and chord progressions are remarkably similar to various 1960s hits. Guess what - lots of popular music uses similar chord progressions and grooves - that doesn't mean that anything has been stolen. I consider Hairspray's songs to be great theater writing, both melodically and lyrically, regardless of how familiar the chord progressions might be.
What's difficult to explain is that I feel that the way "Stick to What You Know" exactly copied the groove and styling of "You Can't Stop the Beat" was really lame, while I think it's amazing that Shaiman was able to create "I Know Where I've Been", a beautiful song that just happens to have a similar harmonic structure to "Georgia".
"I have got to have some professional music!" - Big Edie
#87
Posted: 1/5/09 at 9:38pm
"Part of Your World" from THE LITTLE MERMAID and "Legally Blonde" from LEGALLY BLONDE sounds way too much alike.
#88
Posted: 1/5/09 at 10:16pm
'Comfort And Joy'-Bat Boy and part of the dance break in 'Saturday Night In The City'-Wedding Singer.
#89
Posted: 1/5/09 at 10:24pm
I always think of "come to me bend to me" from Brigadoon when I hear "Music of the Night" from phantom.
#90
Posted: 1/7/09 at 7:03pm
Okay, I was proven totally wrong on my last one, but... there's one bit in "Wheels of A Dream" from Ragtime that sounds like "Being Alive" from Company.
"Oh, Sarah, it's more than promises/ Sarah, it must be true" = "Somebody hold me too close/Somebody hurt me too deep."
"Oh, Sarah, it's more than promises/ Sarah, it must be true" = "Somebody hold me too close/Somebody hurt me too deep."
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#91
Posted: 1/7/09 at 7:50pm
I know it's Webber, but still a fun video. Adding, of course, to Annas' prior contribution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkx4ia6Th1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkx4ia6Th1A
#92
Posted: 1/7/09 at 8:11pm
CATSNYrevival: Well said (regarding Marc Shaiman and people's fear of criticizing his work on this board).
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#93
Posted: 1/8/09 at 8:13am
everybody says don't from anyone can whistle and don't rain on my parade from funny girl have the same chord progression...
...everyone was doing the mambo and drinking golden cadillacs...
Updated On: 1/8/09 at 08:13 AM
#94
Posted: 1/8/09 at 4:35pm
there was something i noticed a long time ago from "its your wedding day" sounding EXACTLY like something in rent but i listened to it again and can not for the life of me remember what it was
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Cages or wings? Which do you prefer? Ask the birds. Fear or love, baby? Don't say the answer Actions speak louder than words. (Tick, Tick... BOOM!)
#95
Posted: 1/8/09 at 5:26pm
I've ALWAYS realized this but I've been too afraid to call out Charles Strouse...
The opening line (notes) from "New Deal for Christmas" from Annie is EXACTLY THE SAME as the opening line from the 101 Dalmations song "Dalmation Plantation."
I KNOW THE DEPRESSION'S DEPRESSING...
WE'LL HAVE A DALMATION PLANTATION...
It's the same!
The opening line (notes) from "New Deal for Christmas" from Annie is EXACTLY THE SAME as the opening line from the 101 Dalmations song "Dalmation Plantation."
I KNOW THE DEPRESSION'S DEPRESSING...
WE'LL HAVE A DALMATION PLANTATION...
It's the same!
#96
Posted: 1/8/09 at 5:40pm
Dude, how did I never notice that before!
In my pants, she has burst like the music of angels, the light of the sun! --Marius Pantsmercy
#97
Posted: 1/8/09 at 5:54pm
The Letter from Billy Elliot and One Day More
'Missed you stomping and your shouting...'
'One more day all on my own...'
That's all I've got at the moment. More will come to me though, I know. Bear with me! :)
'Missed you stomping and your shouting...'
'One more day all on my own...'
That's all I've got at the moment. More will come to me though, I know. Bear with me! :)
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#98
Posted: 1/8/09 at 5:58pm
From what I've heard, title song from In The Heights and Raise the Roof from The Wild Party are quite similar, orchestration-wise. As well as some very similar phrases.
Also part of Lost in the Wilderness in from Children of Eden sounds incredibly like it's been dragged from Miss Saigon.
'Is it God's will or have we all been conned? *PLINKPLINKPLINK*'
The PLINKPLINKPLINK I mean. Hehehe!
Also part of Lost in the Wilderness in from Children of Eden sounds incredibly like it's been dragged from Miss Saigon.
'Is it God's will or have we all been conned? *PLINKPLINKPLINK*'
The PLINKPLINKPLINK I mean. Hehehe!
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#99
Posted: 1/9/09 at 1:48am
Forgot to mention that "Those Canaan Days" from Joseph also sounds a lot like Dalmation Plantation.
Do you remember the good years in Canaan...
We'll have a dalmation plantation...
Webber again, lol.
Do you remember the good years in Canaan...
We'll have a dalmation plantation...
Webber again, lol.
#100
Posted: 1/9/09 at 12:34pm
The begining of La Vie Boheme (RENT) is clearly the same underschoring as Your Fault from Into The Woods. Given the fact that Larson notoriously "borrowed" from many sources and being a huge Sondheim fan- I'm not surprised.
Its the "no please no not tonight" part.
Its the "no please no not tonight" part.
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