THE OFFICIAL 2018 TONY AWARDS VIEWING THREAD- Page 23

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:53pm

Oak2 said: "bwayrose7 said: "I genuinely loved TBV - I thought it was smart, surprisingly funny, and moved me to tears. I don't consider myself an elite, pretentious snob (I count Wicked and Anastasia among some of my favorite musicals), but I appreciate the small, delicate shows as much as the big, glorious ones. I get that it's not to everyone's taste, but I wish some posters would stop painting everyone with a single brush just because they disagree.

Congrats to all the winners tonight - no matter who wins from year to year, I alwayslove Tonys night and I love the community."

It's perfectly fine to love TBV, and I don't suggest that everyone who loves TBV is a pretentious elitist snob. The ones I call pretentious elitist snobs are the ones who call the other nominated shows "trash" and spend all of their time crapping on the people who didn't like it or like/prefer other showsand act like disliking TBV is some kind of crime or sign of mental disability. Those are the snobs. You are not a snob just because you like TBV. I have no problem with you as long as you aren't insulting everyone who doesn't like TBV/who likes the other shows, as some of the others on here do.

"

I thought “The Band’s Visit” was truly beautiful and worthy of every award.  At the same time I found SpongeBob to be joyous and “Mean Girls” a lot of fun. I personally hate most jukebox musicals, but have no problem with those who like them. Don’t judge me on my taste and I will try to do the same for you.

 

[After Eight]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:54pm

Bwayrose7 said:


"Quite clear, thank you. "Rotten shows" are, of course, defined by you. I will adjust my own opinions accordingly, I wouldn't want to erroneously like "rotten shows.""

Well, that's a start.

"Has it ever occurred to you that there are opinions other than yours, and that they are equally valid."

Right, just like you attribute validity to mine. 

[smidge]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:54pm

JayElle said: "you can buy the whole show from amazon video for about $5...likely available tomorrow or the day after...I buy them every year"

Except for last year. They only had the individual musical performances which you had to pay for separately.

[S394206H]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:55pm

Chowd95 said: "schubox said: "Man this thread was depressing to read through. For a community of supposed theater lovers you all seem to hate the theater, and other people who also love it"

That seems to be the MO of these boards more often than not, unfortunately.

Agreed. Negativity definitely outweighed positivity here. I've known for a long time that this is not the place for happy, polite discussions, but jeez, people, calm down and appreciate the one night of theatre we get as a community. I'm not saying we all have to love each other and be friends, but I feel like a lot of the vitriol is unnecessary and antithetical to what this night is supposed to represent, regardless of if it does or not.

 

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:56pm

I'm beyond SHOOKED with the love that The Band's Visit received!

I mean, I was counting something around 6, maybe 7 wins, but 10? WOW! Thank god the scenic design of the show was so tiny LOL

The Band's Visit is now tied with Billy Elliot as the third most award musical in history.

I know for sure that in any other season, TBV would've not won this much of awards. 10 wins is too much, is for juggernaults like Producers, Hamilton and Billy. You can't deny that.

But, well, I'm happy for them! Go get that recoup, guys!

[bwayrose7]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:59pm

After Eight said: "Bwayrose7 said:


"Quite clear, thank you. "Rotten shows" are, of course, defined by you. I willadjust my own opinions accordingly, I wouldn't want to erroneously like "rotten shows.""

Well, that's a start.

"Has it ever occurred to you that there are opinions other than yours, and that they are equally valid."

Right, just like you attribute validity to mine."

I do, in fact. If you dislike any show that is your business. I only find it frustrating that you extrapolate from there that those shows are objectively terrible and everyone who likes them is complicit in playing some great trick on the unsuspecting populace. My opinion is not the gospel truth, neither is yours, neither is anyone's. Isn't that the beauty of the arts - that there's something for everyone? 

[hmph]

Posted: 6/10/18 at 11:59pm

Jesus, this thread is off the rails. How many ways can a message board community find to make reading threads a chore? Guess we’ll be finding out tonight! Anyway, I really liked Sara Bareilles and Josh Groban. They were cute and sang well. I think I could hear Bareilles sing just about anything, and they were charming throughout.

I unfortunately haven’t been able to make it to any of the shows, but I’m hoping to make it to Once on this Island, The Band’s Visit, and (even though the performance wasn’t great) Mean Girls. The My Fair Lady performance wasn’t great to me, and I was hoping to see If I Loved You or something else from Carousel. Not a season that’s interested me too much, though it really seemed promising.

Robert De Niro spoke for a pretty wide swath of the country tonight. Really not looking forward to the dramatics from Republicans tomorrow.

[richsmo]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:00am

Robbie2 said: "Olivia11 said: "Richsmo: I will say a prayer tonight that your beautiful children are able to overcome your limitations and the intolerances of your “religious community”. Children are not born with hate or intolerance — it is learned, unfortunately frequently under the flag of “religious beliefs”.
"
Yes, hate or intolerance is learned from being sheltered by parents"

Children are not born with morals or values. Or shelter, either. A religious person like myself looks at the world, sees nine-year-olds in porn addiction clinics, and chooses to take an active role. It is the parent's responsibility to shelter their children -- physically, emotionally, and spiritually -- until they are mature enough to be taught all the facts of life, to be taught respect for life, and to be given the responsibility to make their own choices even as they are to be tolerant of those who would choose differently. (I am not addressing those religions that actually do teach hate and intolerance, and those religions unfortunately do exist.)

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:03am

As for the show itself, I thought it was pretty good, I really liked both Sara and Josh, I hope the ratings don't deep that much.

The performance of the night was the one that those children gave, just perfection!

But if we are only talking about the shows, Once on this Island KILLED and that ''upset'' win was EVERYTHING! Hope they stay open until October, I have to see this show!

I'm sad that Mean Girls is now tied with TSBoys as the biggest loser in Tony's history, Fey didn't deserved this

SpongeBob almost joined the club LOL

My Fair Lady was almost shutout, I wasn't expecting that at all. Their performance were incredible, tho.

I'm SO SO SO glad that Andrew won and that Glenda also won. Such amazing performance of so different generations, really great!

I'm sad that Gough didn't win tho, I love me so Metcalf, but she didn't need that Tony.

I love Harry Potter, but Ms Elliott deserved that Tony MUCH MORE than Tiffany.

It was boring that Frozen re-did their performance that it's HD on The View channel.

Summer was ok, LaChanze looked GORGEOUS!

Aside from the little crack, ''Omar Sharif'' really showed what TBV is about.

Carousel was okay.

Hope next season is better and the Tonys are even greater.

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:03am

I suggest we stop responding to certain post as to not afford those people a bully pulpit that they desire because it's clear they know how their messages will be received on this message board and want the attention.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:06am

Overall, the show was fine...perhaps a bit safe.

Thrilled with all the love for The Band's Visit as it was my favorite show of the season, but I was totally nor expecting the deluge for it.

I was most surprised with the win for OOTI, but in a good way! Hope it helps them at the box office!

Was it a weak year? Yes, but I found plenty to enjoy!

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:07am

The SpongeBob stans are going batsh*t on social media. Katrina Lenk better watch out because Becky from Wyoming said she's "cancelled." Lol.

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:09am

GeorgeandDot said: "The SpongeBob stans are going batsh*t on social media. Katrina Lenk better watch out because Becky from Wyoming said she's "cancelled." Lol."

Why? Spongebob wasn't even nominated for Best Actress in a Musical. That's so weird.

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:13am

They're posting on literally everything that has to do with TBV. The Mean Girls stans are pretty terrible too.

[Oak2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:17am

South Fl Marc said: "Oak2 said: "bwayrose7 said: "I genuinely loved TBV - I thought it was smart, surprisingly funny, and moved me to tears. I don't consider myself an elite, pretentious snob (I count Wicked and Anastasia among some of my favorite musicals), but I appreciate the small, delicate shows as much as the big, glorious ones. I get that it's not to everyone's taste, but I wish some posters would stop painting everyone with a single brush just because they disagree.

Congrats to all the winners tonight - no matter who wins from year to year, I alwayslove Tonys night and I love the community."

It's perfectly fine to love TBV, and I don't suggest that everyone who loves TBV is a pretentious elitist snob. The ones I call pretentious elitist snobs are the ones who call the other nominated shows "trash" and spend all of their time crapping on the people who didn't like it or like/prefer other showsand act like disliking TBV is some kind of crime or sign of mental disability. Those are the snobs. You are not a snob just because you like TBV. I have no problem with you as long as you aren't insulting everyone who doesn't like TBV/who likes the other shows, as some of the others on here do.

"

I thought “The Band’s Visit” was truly beautiful and worthy of every award. At the same time I found SpongeBob to be joyous and “Mean Girls” a lot of fun. I personally hate most jukebox musicals, but have no problem with those who like them. Don’t judge me on my taste and I will try to do the same for you.

"

Of course not. I do not judge you because you haven't been bashing people who didn't like TBV or who loved the other shows. As I said in my original posts, I'm happy for TBV winning and those who love it, even if I personally didn't enjoy it. There should be more people like you.

And for the record, I hate elitists like After Eight too even if its "tastes" are more in line with what I enjoy (though I also enjoy a lot of modern stuff too and stuff that it claims to dislike). I blocked After Eight after realizing that it's another one of those things that refuses to accept that people are allowed to like or dislike different things, but treat their own tastes as the end-all be-all. I find that attitude disgusting regardless of which direction of taste it's projected in.  So please don't think that I'm judging all fans of TBV. I'm happy for them, as long as they aren't insulting the stuff I do love and trying to demean me for sharing different tastes.

[Olivia11]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:18am

Children are not born with morals or values. Or shelter, either. Areligious person like myself looks at the world, sees nine-year-olds in porn addiction clinics, and chooses to take an active role. It is the parent's responsibility to shelter their children -- physically, emotionally, and spiritually -- until they are mature enough to be taught all the facts of life, to be taught respect for life, and to be given the responsibility to make their own choices even as they are to be tolerantof those who would choose differently.(I am not addressing those religions that actually do teach hate and intolerance, and those religions unfortunately do exist.)"

 

Equating porn addiction with an unwillingness to allow your children to hear a loving human being thanking their same sex spouse shows that your religion is teaching hate and intolerance. I’m not going to convince you of that, but I hope you might think on it. 

Your kids would only take note of the speech at the Tonys because you (or your religion) think it is wrong for a man to love a man and have taught them there is a danger.  There is no danger in two people loving each other.  It is a fallacy that is passed down.

 

I can assure you my ten year old (who many would say is over protected) has not been sheltered from any type of love. He does not think anything of the fact that a lesbian couple brought their daughter over to play with him last night, because they are friends with his heterosexual parents.  He just saw two different couples with kids.  If I do nothing else right, I will be thankful for that. 

Kids are remarkably open minded, inclusive, and fair. Please give yours a chance to show you the way. 

Updated On: 6/11/18 at 12:18 AM

[kade.ivy]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:20am

Also forgot to say how happy I was that they had three true stage actors present the final three “big” awards!

[sppunk]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:27am

Pretty happy with every award tonight given it was a very weak season. I haven’t seen OOTI but that performance was very good and now I hope I get to see it before it closes. I absolutely loved MFL and am bummed it didn’t win but having not seen OOTI I can’t complain much.

TBV was my favorite show this season by far and everything else was weak so it was perfectly timed. Mean Girls is fun and cute but I couldn’t think it would win much of anything.

Mean Girls performance was terrible - it didn’t even feel like the musical imo.

Carousal was blah too which fits that show. A wasted opportunity for perfection.

I didn’t catch any of the plays this year unfortunately.

[Robbie2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:27am

Olivia11 said: "richsmo said: "Robbie2 said: "Olivia11 said: "Richsmo: I will say a prayer tonight that your beautiful children are ab

Children are not born with morals or values. Or shelter, either. Areligious person like myself looks at the world, sees nine-year-olds in porn addiction clinics, and chooses to take an active role. It is the parent's responsibility to shelter their children -- physically, emotionally, and spiritually -- until they are mature enough to be taught all the facts of life, to be taught respect for life, and to be given the responsibility to make their own choices even as they are to be tolerantof those who would choose differently.(I am not addressing those religions that actually do teach hate and intolerance, and those religions unfortunately do exist.)"



Equating porn addiction with an unwillingness to allow your children to hear a loving human being thanking their same sex spouse shows that your religion is teaching hate and intolerance. I’m not going to convince you of that, but I hope you might think on it.

You’re kids would only take note of the speech at the Tonys because you (or your religion) think it is wrong for a man to love a man and have taught them there is a danger. There is no danger in two people loving each other. It is a fallacy that is passed down.



I can assure you my ten year old (who many would say is over protected) has not been sheltered from any type of love. Hedoes not think anything of the fact that a lesbian couple brought their daughter over to play with him last night, because they are friends with his heterosexual parents. He just saw two different couples with kids. If I do nothing else right, I will be thankful for that.

Kids are remarkably open minded, inclusive,and fair. Please give yours a chance to show you the way."

 

^^^THIS! Thank you!!!

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:33am

Thinking on it, Carousel really made the dumbest choice for its performance.

[Oak2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:40am

ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "Thinking on it,Carouselreally made the dumbest choice for its performance."

I respectfully disagree. Considering even who they chose to introduce it, it's clear they realized the strongest point of their show was the dancing, especially as they won Best Choreography, so they chose a number that would show that off and bring the focus of the show and why people should see it on the great dancing/choreography.. To be fair though I'm not familiar enough with the show to know if there are other numbers they could have chosen that are also dance-heavy and would have shown more off. 

[GeorgeandDot]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:41am

Carousel, Mean Girls, and Frozen were really awful. My Fair Lady was awkward, but good.

SpongeBob was a ton of fun. Once on this Island was great and The Band's Visit was beautiful and it was great to see Katrina and Tony perform so intimately like that. You could see every like facial movement. It was lovely to see.

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:45am

An out-of-context dance sequence that was mainly just pirouettes offering no insight to the characters or story would not have helped sell the show. The bench scene and "If I Loved You" would have done so much. For an event like the Tonys, Rodgers and Hammerstein's songs are Carousel's best assets to advertise the show, even if they are disappointing in the actual production. People watching on TV don't have the wealth of knowledge to compare Joshua Henry to John Raitt or whomever else so they wouldn't be as critical.

[JBC3]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:50am

fairly bland season
fairly bland show

thankful for so many good plays Updated On: 6/11/18 at 12:50 AM

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 6/11/18 at 12:51am

Oak2 said: "South Fl Marc said: "Oak2 said: "bwayrose7 said: "I genuinely loved TBV - I thought it was smart, surprisingly funny, and moved me to tears. I don't consider myself an elite, pretentious snob (I count Wicked and Anastasia among some of my favorite musicals), but I appreciate the small, delicate shows as much as the big, glorious ones. I get that it's not to everyone's taste, but I wish some posters would stop painting everyone with a single brush just because they disagree.

Congrats to all the winners tonight - no matter who wins from year to year, I alwayslove Tonys night and I love the community."

It's perfectly fine to love TBV, and I don't suggest that everyone who loves TBV is a pretentious elitist snob. The ones I call pretentious elitist snobs are the ones who call the other nominated shows "trash" and spend all of their time crapping on the people who didn't like it or like/prefer other showsand act like disliking TBV is some kind of crime or sign of mental disability. Those are the snobs. You are not a snob just because you like TBV. I have no problem with you as long as you aren't insulting everyone who doesn't like TBV/who likes the other shows, as some of the others on here do.

"

I thought “The Band’s Visit” was truly beautiful and worthy of every award. At the same time I found SpongeBob to be joyous and “Mean Girls” a lot of fun. I personally hate most jukebox musicals, but have no problem with those who like them. Don’t judge me on my taste and I will try to do the same for you.

"

Of course not. I do not judge you because you haven't been bashing people who didn't like TBV or who loved the other shows. As I said in my original posts, I'm happy for TBV winning and those who love it, even if I personally didn't enjoy it. There should be more people like you.

And for the record, I hate elitists like After Eight too even if its "tastes" are more in line with what I enjoy (though I also enjoy a lot of modern stuff too and stuff that it claims to dislike). I blocked After Eight after realizing that it's another one of those things that refuses to accept that people are allowed to like or dislike different things, but treat their own tastes as the end-all be-all. I find that attitude disgusting regardless of which direction of taste it's projected in. So please don't think that I'm judging all fans of TBV. I'm happy for them, as long as they aren't insulting the stuff I do love and trying to demean me for sharing different tastes."

You made a great choice to block After Eight. My life on BWW has been ultimately better since I blocked him. I now only see his posts when someone else quotes his posts in theirs. He thrives on creating discontent.