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#125TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 12:34pm

Cora Hoover Hooper said: "How is John Behlmann in this show? He looks so adorable."

I mentioned this in the previews thread and he great and somehow manages to have the showiest/scenery chewiest part in the whole show. Many including myself think Andy Grotelueschen gives the best performance of the supporting actors, but think Behlmann will get more awards attention due to the loud nature of his performance. He will likely get a Tony nomination with strong chance of winning if Patrick Page nor Andy Grotelueschen are nominated. 

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#126TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 12:35pm

Cora Hoover Hooper said: "How is John Behlmann in this show? He looks so adorable."

I LOVED him in his role. IMO, he's not getting enough mention in the reviews.

The way the role is written, an actor could very easily make the choice of playing Max as a 2-dimentional, comedic "himbo". I didn't see that onstage. 

It's been a very long time since I saw the show, and I could be suffering from romantic memory alterations - 'cause I also found him "adorable" - but I remember him as playing Max as a person who was self-aware of what his limitations were (CAN'T act!) as well as knowing what makes him successful (his body), and deliberately capitalizing on his strengths. The opportunities he takes to capitalize on showing off his body is what creates the humor of his character.

He also sees an opportunity to better himself as an actor after meeting Dorothy, and makes attempts to convince Dorothy to be his acting coach. That's scripted, and not so much an acting choice, but still moves outside of the "himbo" box.

[EDIT: I also think that when the rights are made available for amateur productions, there might be a danger in casting a body, over an actor like Behlmann. In a lesser actor's hands, Max's constant attempts to remove his clothing (instead of acting) could come off as 'desperate', or 'pathetic'. Again, I never saw that in Behlmann's performance.]

I wish Behlmann was getting an equal amount of mention as his co-stars. I think he deserves it.

Updated On: 4/25/19 at 12:35 PM

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#127TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 12:39pm

Behlmann certainly got a great deal of praise in reviews! He's a performer who I've very much enjoyed for years- it's not often you get someone who looks like a leading man but is truly more of a weird character actor, who is also clearly a very smart performer- and his performance in Tootsie is very, very funny.

I fully expect him to snag a Tony nod.  


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#128TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 12:43pm

dramamama611 said: "CT2NYC: That's the way I felt about many shows this season: The Prom, Head Over Heels, Beetlejuice....sigh."

We'll have to agree to disagree about The Prom. It's still my favorite Broadway musical this season.

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BenElliott
#129TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 12:43pm

Caught this last night and the score is B A D. I'm a big David Yazbeck fan and this score stinks so bad, you can smell it down the block. I'm really quite shocked by how terrible the score is. Stiles' song is great, but aside for the song, "I Won't Let You Down," I don't think a single song has a chorus or melody. It's truly disappointing.
The book is really funny, but it's not belly-laugh inducing. It is really well written and well adapted. Santino is phenomenal. The cast is unanimously great, except for the ensemble which, as others have said, just shouldn't be in the show. I also agree that this might be one of the ugliest set designs that I've seen.
If I'm being honest, this read as floptastic to me. I'm shocked that this wasn't savaged by critics. Women on the verge was far superior to this and they burned that show to the ground. There is absolutely no way that this is winning best musical. It is a good time and I'm happy I went, but this is Yazbeck's weakest work.

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#130TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 1:10pm

I went to Tootsie Monday evening and I had such a good time.  I really needed some good laughs and this show did it for me.  I agree the score was serviceable.   But the book was hilarious and I loved all the principal cast members.  I see some of you feel a need to compare it to other shows.  And if that is how you get your satisfaction.. well then that is too bad.  The audience was having a great time.  The show  in my opinion got much deserved praise from the critics.  I say it is a welcome hit that will bring much joy to many.  I saw Hadestown, Yiddish Fiddler, Tootsie, Kiss Me Kate, and Beetlejuice.  And with the exception of the last one.. they all add a good variety of choices for this seasons theatergoers.   

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LizzieCurry
#131TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 1:21pm

I have no idea where my post about John Behlmann went, but I LOVED him. Totally on board with everything John Adams said.


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Cora Hoover Hooper
#132TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 1:51pm

Thanks for all the John Behlmann updates!

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Mister Matt
#133TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 2:17pm

I'm really quite shocked by how terrible the score is. Stiles' song is great, but aside for the song, "I Won't Let You Down," I don't think a single song has a chorus or melody.

Every song in the score has a melody.  They all have various song structure components as well, most of which are traditional to musical theatre.  I find it odd that you're a Yazbek fan, but couldn't hear melodies in perhaps his most conventional score to date.

These funny complaints about the score are pretty much on par with every new Yazbek score.  I expect they'll die off completely once the cast recording is released, just as they always have in the past.  


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BenElliott
#134TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 2:32pm

I suppose they have a melody and somewhat of a song structure, however, there are a few songs in this show that seem to just be stream of consciousness and the song never really goes anywhere. Lilli Cooper's song in the park for example. I can't recall there being really a "song" there. She just kind of sings to a basic melody that doesn't go anywhere musically. While I do agree that Yazbeck attempts a "conventional" score (if that's what we're calling it), he ends up trying to mimic "old broadway," but really just ends up with a beige and unmemorable score. The couple of strange, very Yazbeck songs like Stiles' audition song, "Fcked it up," and "Gone" that are great, but all of his attempts at a traditional, conventional sound fall completely flat. He's written several songs with a very loose song structure that flounder around for a while and then end abruptly. His lyrics are consistently great however.

As for the cast album, I think Yazbeck scores tend to deepen with each listen, but I'm not sure that will be the case here. Unfortunately, I just don't think there's all that there, musically. Someone seems to have had the idea that this needed to be a classic musical comedy, but the moments that are the best are the more contemporary musical comedy moments.

I just think this is a shockingly weak score for Yazbeck.

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#135TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 2:57pm

Mister Matt said: "I'm really quite shocked by how terrible the score is. Stiles' song is great, but aside for the song, "I Won't Let You Down," I don't think a single song has a chorus or melody.

Every song in the score has a melody. They all have various song structure components as well, most of which are traditional to musical theatre. I find it odd that you're a Yazbek fan, but couldn't hear melodies in perhaps his most conventional scoreto date.

These funny complaints about the score are pretty much on par with every new Yazbek score. I expect they'll die off completely once the cast recording is released, just as they always have in the past.
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THIS!   


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#136TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 4:32pm

Lilli Cooper's song in the park for example. I can't recall there being really a "song" there.

One of my favorite earworms from the score.  You'll feel differently when you hear it (and the rest of the score) more than once.

He's written several songs with a very loose song structure that flounder around for a while and then end abruptly.

Which ones?  If you mean There Was John, Who Are You and Talk to Me Dorothy, the song structures aren't actually "loose" at all.  They just end quietly, which is appropriate for the scenes in which they occur (not unlike My Crazy Heart, Islands, Mother's Day and Invisible from Women on the Verge).  This really isn't anything new or unique to a Yazbek score.  


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#137TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 6:38pm

I think it's clear that you love this score, Matt. Count me among those that found the score totally tuneless. This is not a typical David Yazbeck score. It feels a bit like he phoned this one in.

I agree that Julie's park song felt shockingly uneventful. I found myself thinking constantly that the songs were plodding along without going anywhere.

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Mister Matt
#138TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 8:26pm

What I really love about Julie's song is how fitting the music is to the scene. She relays her tale with acceptance and a bit of resignation and complacency. It provides the foundation for her character and Dorothy's relationship with her. I find it to be extremely thoughtful and intentional. I honestly don't know how anyone could find the score "tuneless", but the same has been said of Bernstein and Sondheim, so I guess Yazbek is in good company.

Yes, I love the score and I enjoy discussing it. I'm glad that was clear to you and not ambiguous. It's not my intention to confuse anyone.


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#139TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 8:29pm

GeorgeandDot said: "I think it's clear that you love this score, Matt. Count me among those that found the score totally tuneless. This is not a typical David Yazbeck score. It feels a bit like he phoned this one in.

I agree that Julie's park song felt shockingly uneventful. I found myself thinking constantly that the songs were plodding along without going anywhere.
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Can everyone agree to disagree and not continue repeating the same things over and over ?  It just makes the thread so boring.  


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#140TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 8:33pm

DAME said: "GeorgeandDot said: "I think it's clear that you love this score, Matt. Count me among those that found the score totally tuneless. This is not a typical David Yazbeck score. It feels a bit like he phoned this one in.

I agree that Julie's park song felt shockingly uneventful. I found myself thinking constantly that the songs were plodding along without going anywhere.
"

Can everyone agree to disagree and not continue repeating the same things over and over ? It just makes the thread so boring.
"

 

Then there would be no message board threads.

 

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#141TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 9:12pm

My main quibble with Julie’s song is that it sounds distractingly similar to “Killing Me Softly With His Song”, though I also felt like it was a little too discursive in its lyrics. I think he was going for a kind of rambling, real-words monologue, but he could’ve taken better advantage of the cyclical structure to really drive home the melancholic repetitions that outline her struggle to follow her dream. The Miller’s Son approaches a (somewhat) similar theme and style, but it does it with a pattern that’s ten times more satisfying for how solid it is - Julie’s song almost seemed to lack a consistent rhyme and meter.

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#142TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 11:14pm

from Carol 

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BeNice
#143TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/25/19 at 11:27pm

That is amazing!

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#144TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/26/19 at 12:08am

Boo, boo, TOOTSIE, GOODBYE!!!!

 

What a big steaming pile of Doo-doo!

 

Broadway continues it's habit of killing beloved movies by adapting them into lackluster, overstuffed exercises in excess and bad taste.

 

There's NOTHING about this latest project that reflects the charm and cleverness of the movie.  Really, why bother, other than making profit out of the name alone?

 

Changing the story from a soap opera background to a Broadway show background may seem great on paper (especially for a Broadway show) but here it only served to serve up several stupid, boring, banal numbers and a plot that creates major meh and loud snoring in the audience.

 

But the major fault in these stars is that the audience doesn't care about ANYONE!  Michael is a narcissistic nudge, Julie is a miscast, confused egotist, Jeff is just plain creepy, Max is beyond charicature - only Sandy is redeemed by quirky endearment and the best song in the show.

 

And this reworked plot just doesn't work.  It's not interesting, and, again, not charming, and at times it's downright confusing and exhausting.  Songs are forgettable as we're hearing them.

 

Choreography is negligible and <<edited by BWW staff>>!  As should the Producers who approved this rot.  GET RID OF DOROTHY'S FIRST BLUE DRESS!!!!  ABOMINABLE!

 

Gee.  D'ya think I was disappointed?

 

 

 

 

 

Updated On: 4/26/19 at 12:08 AM

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#145TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/26/19 at 9:25am

I think he was going for a kind of rambling, real-words monologue, but he could’ve taken better advantage of the cyclical structure to really drive home the melancholic repetitions that outline her struggle to follow her dream. The Miller’s Son approaches a (somewhat) similar theme and style, but it does it with a pattern that’s ten times more satisfying for how solid it is - Julie’s song almost seemed to lack a consistent rhyme and meter.

To me, The Miller's Son is really apples/oranges as they serve very different purposes with respect to the book, characters, setting and scene.  When it comes to rhyme and meter, I wouldn't expect anything in this show to resemble anything in A Little Night Music at all.  I picked up on the cyclical structure of the song when seeing the show, but I didn't observe it as her "struggle to follow her dream" (though it is a part of the narrative).  Rather, it seemed she was regaling the story she's replayed endlessly on loop in her mind and with each "okay" the music betrays the facade of confidence and resolve she's tried to build for herself.  Do I wish the show had delved deeper into Julie's contradiction of strength and fragility?  Absolutely.  But I wasn't unhappy with what I saw or heard at all.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

mamaleh
#146TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/26/19 at 9:36am

TOOTSIE was delightful: funny, bright and witty as a musical comedy should be. It's the antidote to BEETLEJUICE.   Fontana, Cooper, Stiles, Rogers, Halston and Behlmann were all adept performers and I truly liked David Yazbek's score, which reminded me in spots of his WOMEN ON THE VERGE  score, which I also greatly admired.  Admittedly, this was a weak season for Broadway musical comedy, but TOOTSIE and THE PROM were the saving graces.   

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#147TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/26/19 at 12:20pm

mamaleh said: "TOOTSIE was delightful: funny, bright and witty as a musical comedy should be. It's the antidote to BEETLEJUICE. Fontana, Cooper, Stiles, Rogers, Halston and Behlmann were all adept performers and I truly liked David Yazbek's score, which reminded me in spots of his WOMEN ON THE VERGE score, which I also greatly admired. Admittedly, this was a weak season for Broadway musical comedy, but TOOTSIEand THE PROM were the saving graces."

mamaleh;  I enjoyed it as well.    What a fun time at the theater.   I still have not wiped the smile off my face.  I plan on seeing it again down the line.  


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chanel
#148TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/26/19 at 1:04pm

"Hand Santino the Tony Dorothty would have gotten!"

http://www.newnownext.com/tootise-broadway-review/04/2019/

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#149TOOTSIE Reviews
Posted: 4/26/19 at 1:40pm

The costume design was bad. Period. 

 


 

 

Updated On: 4/26/19 at 01:40 PM


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