The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim- Page 5
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#100
Posted: 3/22/15 at 5:48pm
This is how Sondheim composes (according to Dave19)
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#101
Posted: 3/22/15 at 5:53pmJay, I can't deny that that's how most of his melodies sound to me.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#102
Posted: 3/22/15 at 5:54pm
Dave
those are bland, flowery lyrics.
Not poetic lyrics. There's a difference.
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#103
Posted: 3/22/15 at 5:56pm
"Jay, I can't deny that that's how most of his melodies sound to me."
If that is true, then that issue is beyond Sondheim's or anybody's reach...
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#104
Posted: 3/22/15 at 6:00pm
Sweeney Todd has some of the most beautiful melodies I have ever heard. I listen to "Our Time" from Merrily when I want to hear a beautiful marriage of melody and lyrics. I think later Sondheim may be less accessible for those who just want Celine Dion/Diane Warren type of ballads, but to say the lyrics are "random" or don't take you on a "journey" shows one isn't listening carefully enough. I mean I don't know how you can say that when you hear "Move On" from Sunday in the Park with George or the whole prologue of Into the Woods and "Moments in the Wood" or "It Takes Two" or "No One is Alone" etc. The lyrics themselves are full of symbolism and deeper meaning, and they're not simplistic resolutions. With Sondheim's resolutions, they are not always obvious declarations, but they take into account human complexities and contradictions.
https://youtu.be/AfN9AIqeYxU Our Time from Merrily We Roll Along
Updated On: 3/22/15 at 06:00 PM
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#105
Posted: 3/22/15 at 6:02pm
Po-et-ic:
1. Having a beautiful or graceful quality
2. Characterized by romantic imagery
3. Having an imaginative or sensitively emotional style of expression
Seems like those lyrics to me. But whatever you like to call it.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#106
Posted: 3/22/15 at 6:17pm
Dave
shhhhh
just stop.
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#107
Posted: 3/22/15 at 6:20pm
TO wash the bad taste of some of this thread out of my mouth I returned to this wonderful 2013 NYMag essay from Frank Rich.
Frank Rich on Why Sondheim Endures
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#108
Posted: 3/22/15 at 6:28pmI wonder why Sondheim haters can't accept a plain fact that some people can like Sondheim AND other composers all the while not choosing a team?
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#109
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:12pmHaha. Did someone actually say that people hate musicals because of Sondheim? Funny joke! I mean, you're kidding, right?
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#110
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:13pmsweetlips, why is your picture so creepy?? And whether people think Sondheim's melodies are simple or not, and easy to sing, thats pretty much an opinion.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#111
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:13pmYeah Send in the Clowns is world class
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#112
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:15pmhahahahah thats sarcastic right? If it is, i agree with you! I don't really think anyone knows that song except theatre people
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#113
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:17pm
Phillypinto
ARE YOU F###### CRAZY!!???
Send in the Clowns is one of the most famous show tunes out there. It was made famous by Judy Collins. How do you not know this?
Updated On: 3/22/15 at 07:17 PM
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#114
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:20pmClowns was a Grammy winning POP hit in the 70s. Philly, you are greatly mistaken. Ask your parents and grandparents, they will know the song.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#115
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:20pm
icecreambenjamin, do you know anyone else besides theatre people??? Ask them if they know that song, and let me know their answer!
Honestly, this is coming from someone in the new generation. As far as I'm concerned, this song is not that famous. Even many young theatre people don't know this song
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#116
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:20pm
Let's not forget Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, Patti Labelle, and Judi Dench
Updated On: 3/22/15 at 07:20 PM
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#117
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:23pm
"Two years later in 1975, Judy Collins recorded "Send In the Clowns" and included it in her album, Judith.[8] The song was released as a single, which soon became a major pop hit. It remained on the Billboard Hot 100 for 11 weeks in 1975, reaching Number 36.[9]Then, in 1977, the song again reached the Billboard Hot 100, where it remained for 16 weeks and reached Number 19.[10] At theGrammy Awards of 1976, the Judy Collins performance of the song was named "Song of the Year"."
Phillypinto
please spare us of your ignorance.
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#118
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:24pm
"And whether people think Sondheim's melodies are simple or not, and easy to sing, thats pretty much an opinion."
Wrong answer.
And yes, even young theatre people are aware of Send in the Clowns.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#119
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:25pm
"And yes, even young theatre people are aware of Send in the Clowns"
Wrong answer.
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#120
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:26pm
I'm a "young theatre person", and I know "Send in the Clowns"
Updated On: 8/10/15 at 07:26 PM
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#121
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:27pm
Phillypinto,
It is an old song. People that know the song and aren't "theater people" are old people. Today, everyone listens to Taylor Swift and stuff, so only "theater people" and old people know the song.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#122
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:27pmI'm a "young theatre people" and so is my entire high school. We are all aware of that song.
The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#123
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:27pmYes, Philly, even people in your generation know "Send in the Clowns," and, even if they can't name the tune or sing the lyrics, they've at least heard of the musicians who have covered it and made it a pop standard. I mean, you can't possibly believe that 19 year olds don't know Frank Sinatra or Barbra Streisand...
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The Heckler: Why I'm allergic to Stephen Sondheim#124
Posted: 3/22/15 at 7:28pm
^ ^
Thank you!
Honestly, one person cannot speak for an entire generation. If you don't know or understand something, does not mean other's do not.
Updated On: 3/22/15 at 07:28 PM
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