The Music Man 2020 Venue Mystery

[Steven9]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 11:43am

Updated On: 9/14/19 at 11:43 AM

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 11:49am

The seating layout was never going to be exactly like the Winter Garden, but that doesn't mean that's not where they're intending to go. The mezzanine pricing is absolutely based on the Winter Garden. Why is the right mezzanine section less expensive than the left? Because, at the Winter Garden, that left section is actually considered a center section, and there's another far left section not represented on this seating chart. Also, the aisle seats of those 2 center sections, seats 101 and 1, come up as being on the aisle when you go to purchase, while the seats at the other end, seats 114 and 127, do not, suggesting that more seats are in those sections, as there are at the Winter Garden. Sorry, I'm a little OCD, and I like to do my research.

And, in my opinion, there's no chance in hell that it's going into either the Broadhurst or the Schoenfeld.

Updated On: 9/14/19 at 11:49 AM

[Steven9]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 11:51am

BeetleJuice s doing so well though, and they just extended their ticket sales...

[DoTheDood]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 11:56am

Steven9 said: "BeetleJuice s doing so well though, and they just extended their ticket sales..."

And so did King Kong before closing, I don't get why people think extending ticket sales mean anything when they can still put a closing date before that. I'm glad BJ is going great, but the Shuberts know MM will run circles around the number BJ is doing right now. 

[jo]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:07pm

CT2NYC said: "The seating layout was never going to be exactly like the Winter Garden, but that doesn't mean that's not where they're intending to go. The mezzanine pricing is absolutely based on the Winter Garden. Why is the right mezzanine section less expensive than the left? Because, at the Winter Garden, that left section is actually considered a center section, and there's another far left section not represented on this seating chart.Also, the aisle seats of those 2 center sections, seats 101 and 1, come up as being on the aisle when you go to purchase, while the seats at the other end, seats 114 and 127, do not, suggesting that more seats are in those sections, as there are at the Winter Garden. Sorry, I'm a little OCD, and I like to do my research.

And, in my opinion, there's no chance in hellthat it's going into either the Broadhurst or the Schoenfeld."

Makes sense!

Also, why are there 2 Row A's in the seating chart currently attached to the Music Man ticket offers?  Is that one only a ploy to hide the true identity? If you remove one Row A, then the first two rows from left to right of the hall looks more like The Winter Garden now. 

Also, the last row for Center Orch is Row V - which is the same as the WG.

 

 

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:09pm

jo said: "CT2NYC said: "The seating layout was never going to be exactly like the Winter Garden, but that doesn't mean that's not where they're intending to go. The mezzanine pricing is absolutely based on the Winter Garden. Why is the right mezzanine section less expensive than the left? Because, at the Winter Garden, that left section is actually considered a center section, and there's another far left section not represented on this seating chart.Also, the aisle seats of those 2 center sections, seats 101 and 1, come up as being on the aisle when you go to purchase, while the seats at the other end, seats 114 and 127, do not, suggesting that more seats are in those sections, as there are at the Winter Garden. Sorry, I'm a little OCD, and I like to do my research.

And, in my opinion, there's no chance in hellthat it's going into either the Broadhurst or the Schoenfeld."

Makes sense!

Also, why are there 2 Row A's in the seating chart currently attached to the Music Man ticket offers? Is that one only a ploy to hide the true identity? If you remove one Row A, then the first two rows from left to right of the hall looks more like The Winter Garden now.

Also, the last row for Center Orch is Row V - which is the same as the WG.



"

Thank you! Finally, someone who gets it!

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:09pm

I’m forgetting. Is the booth open for the spring? I could potentially see come from away moving there.

[DoTheDood]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:12pm

Call_me_jorge said: "I’m forgetting. Is the booth open for the spring? I could potentially see come from away moving there."

Are you kidding? The Booth is far too big, this obviously is aiming for the Helen Hayes.

[VotePeron]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:16pm

CT2NYC has definitely converted me into a believer that the seating chart is indeed the Winter Garden - sans the rear side orch, and side mezz.

This works in its favor in 2 ways:
1) if it is the WG, the seats not on the seating chart will be the worst in the house, and can easily go on sale later as part of a marketing campaign for new seats released.
2) if it’s not the WG, it will be pretty easy to swap tickets purchased to another Shubert venue like the Broadway.

[jonah3500]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:29pm

The accessible seats match up perfectly with the ones for beetlejuice...

[Steven9]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:30pm

Do we think they’re going to move BeetleJuice? Or close? Because they extended ticket sales for Kong, but it was evident in the grosses that they were sitting in 60-70% capacity consistently. BeetleJuice is actually making a lot of money and has consistently been in the 90% capacity range, some times high 80’s. I don’t think they’re gonna close it...

Updated On: 9/14/19 at 12:30 PM

[VotePeron]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:35pm

Steven9 said: "Do we think they’re going to move BeetleJuice? Or close? Because they extended ticket sales for Kong, but it was evident inthe grosses that they were sitting in 60-70% capacity consistently. BeetleJuice is actually making a lot of money and has consistently been in the 90% capacity range, some times high 80’s. I don’t think they’re gonna close it..."

I don’t think a decision will be made for a while, like next March. 

It will cost so much money to transfer the show to a new theater, because they’d most likely have to build a new set to fit. It’s still only playing at 60-75% gross potential, so it’s not making as much as it could be. We’ll see how hard the fall hits it, but it could run until July 2020 and still have had an incredible run for a show as mediocre as it is. 

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:41pm

I could see Beetlejuice packing it in and using that set to tour.

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 12:58pm

Also, and I'm surprised I didn't notice it until now, but the mezzanine overhangs the orchestra at row O on the Telecharge seating chart, adding to the evidence that it's representing the Winter Garden. 

[Flowerlovestage5]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 1:07pm

I got the mezz E2 seat as well — however, it’s going to be much farther over at the WG. Makes me wish the could have simulated a more accurate chart if that’s the case.

[DoTheDood]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 1:09pm

Updated On: 9/14/19 at 01:09 PM

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 1:17pm

Flowerlovestage5 said: "I got the mezz E2 seat as well — however, it’s going to be much farther over at the WG. Makes me wish the could have simulated a more accurate chart if that’s the case."

E 2 is a great seat at the Winter Garden. I sat there for Beetlejuice:

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 1:23pm

I'm not at all familiar with the Winter Garden, so I did some Googling.  Here is a list (in three parts) of all the many, many shows that have called the Winter Garden "home," dating back to 1911.  Over the years, thousands of performers and tens of thousands of audience members, I would guess.  Quite an amazing history.  And now, maybe "The Music Man"? 

 

https://www.ibdb.com/theatre/winter-garden-theatre-1391  

 

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 1:46pm

The Winter Garden Theatre famously housed: 

Streisand in FUNNY GIRL
Rosalind Russell in WONDERFUL TOWN
Martin in PETER PAN 
Lansbury in both MAME and GYPSY
Orbach & Grimes in 42ND STREET
Original FOLLIES
Original WEST SIDE STORY
MAMMA MIA!
and for 18 years: CATS

[Robbie2]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 1:52pm

Steven9 said: "BeetleJuice s doing so well though, and they just extended their ticket sales..."

 

MM is not till next year Sept...BJ has 11 months left at the WG

[Pose2]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 2:22pm

The Broadway will clearly be open!

[PutonyourWarPaint]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 3:02pm

I purchased BB (Front Row) for whatever Mystery Venue this ends up being!  Can't wait!

[Santana3]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 3:04pm

Pose2 said: "The Broadway will clearly be open!"

Are you joking? That’s where West Side Story is opening in December.

[Pose2]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 3:09pm

Exactly. 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 9/14/19 at 3:24pm

Santana3 said: "Pose2 said: "The Broadway will clearly be open!"

Are you joking? That’s where West Side Story is opening in December."

Yes, and it ain’t gonna last until next September....

Dothedood, I’m confused by your response. Are you poking fun?