The Odd Couple (female version)
The Odd Couple (female version)
Madame X
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#0The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:35pmWhile browsing the shelves, I was surprised to run across the play The Odd Couple (female version), by Simon also. I had no idea such a thing even existed. From what I can tell, it's never had a Broadway run, however that's about all I can tell from ibdb and google. Can anyone fill me on why Neil Simon wrote it or what kind of productions and success it has (or has not) had? Is it even worth a read? Thanks in advance.
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#1re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:37pmmy friend actually performed it her high school - it's very funny but obviously rather similar to the male version.
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#2re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:37pmSure, read it. I've heard of it but I've never known it to be produced anywhere. I'm sure it has though.
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#3re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:39pm
Produced on Broadway with Rita Moreno & Sally Struthers
Toured with Sandy Dennis & Kaye Ballard
Saw them both...
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#4re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:39pm
It played on Broadway for 8 months back in 1985 starring Sally Struthers as Florence Unger and Rita Moreno as Olive Madison. I didn't see it, but from what I understand, it's more or less exactly the same as the original play only with the genders switched.
http://www.ibdb.com/production.asp?ID=4375
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#5re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:42pmI performed this as Florence. It was fun. I didn't realize there was a male version of the Odd Couple until a couple weeks ago.
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#6re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:46pm
A) I am scared that you were in the show and were not aware of the original one!
B)Broadway with Rita Moreno & Sally Struthers
Toured with Sandy Dennis & Kaye Ballard!!! I would have loved to have seen that!!!
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#7re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:54pm
Sandy Dennis and Kaye Ballard were too weird
So mismatched in style...I was worried Kaye was going to eat Sandy alive! And Dennis was more mannered than ever at this point...Ballard looked like a tackle!
#8re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:55pmHahahahaha!!! That is too funny! Thanks for that!
"For me, THEATRE is an anticipation, an artistic rush, an emotional banquet, a jubilant appreciation, and an exit hopeful of clearer thought and better worlds."
~ an anonymous traveler with Robert Burns
#9re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 4:57pmReally--it was like a trainwreck or an accident that you could not look away from!
#10re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:05pmI just read that article about Sally playing Dolly Levi in 'Hello Dolly'! That scares me! How much do ya wanna bet she insists that they use real dumplings or potatoes, whatever it's supposed to be. :)
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~ an anonymous traveler with Robert Burns
#11re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:08pm
Well, yeah, but hey---she's working. And it seems that anyone who ever had a TV show can draw ticket buyers...
I wonder if she has to--or did she make $$$$$$ from "All in the Family"?
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#12re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:11pm
Is much of the dialogue identical in the male and female versions? Is there "one big difference" (mind out of gutters please) between the 2 beside the fact that one is guys and one is gals?
Thanks for the info. I guess I have to learn to use ibdb better!
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#13re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:15pm
Good questions...
Actually, it didn't really work for me, because Simon did minimal rewriting, and Oscar and Felix don't easily become women. And the date scenes are pretty rough...not believable at all, even for comedy.
BTW--Simon has never acknowledged the homoerotic subtext of the original; I wonder how this will play out in the revival?
Updated On: 6/17/05 at 05:15 PM
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#14re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:23pmThat's exactly it...I couldn't picture some of the dialogue of Oscar/Felix coming out of a woman's mouth and that's what I was picturing from some of the responses on this thread. Interesting...maybe not worth a buy, but I'll check it out at the library. Thanks.
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#15re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:28pmi was in it. the dialogue is almost EXACTLY the same as the male version. i like it though.
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#16re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:30pmTo respond to your statement, Wonderboy, I'm still relatively new to theatre and not nearly as knowledgable as most people on these boards. When I was in the production, as far as I knew, the Odd Couple that I was in was written by Neil Simon. And that was it. When I heard about the original Odd Couple being revived, I was incredibly confused when two males were playing the parts and I thought that it might've been a sort of drag queen thing. But it wasn't that type of play, so I'm just here, sitting at my laptop, utterly confused. But eventually, it became straightened out.
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#17re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:33pm
And I guess Simon wrote/converted it just to be an equal opportunity playwright?
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Updated On: 6/17/05 at 05:33 PM
#18re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:38pmLOL--he wanted to figure out a way to make more $$$ from it...
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#19re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:39pmLOL - or that! (is that the real answer? does make sense though)
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#20re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:40pmI am serious---that gave him the chance to stunt cast, and get plenty of free publicity because of it.
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#21re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/17/05 at 5:43pmInteresting - thanks for the info.
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#22re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/18/05 at 11:13am90% of the play is identical, but I disagree that the new version of the Pidgeon Sisters scene is 'pretty rough'. Turning them into the Spanish brothers Manolo and Jesus was an inspiration, and I have rarely heard laughs as big in a theatre as for that one scene. Lewis J. Stadlen and Tony Shalhoub played the roles on Broadway.
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Broadway Star Joined: 7/20/04
#23re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/18/05 at 11:38am
I saw this a few years ago with Barbara Eden (I dream of Jeannie). It was good. Someone from the Mary Tyler Moore show was in it also.
wildcat
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/04
#24re: The Odd Couple (female version)
Posted: 6/18/05 at 11:44amI remember Rita McKenzie, best known for her Ethel Merman impersonation, played Olive opposite Barbara Eden in one touring production.
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