The Strike May Get Worse — Page 4

Thanks, bugmenot. If I had a button to wear that supports local 1, I would wear it.

localonecrew: As my mother used to say, from your lips, to God's ears.

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Updated On: 11/21/07 at 10:18 PM

Lynne: WordArt is your friend.

As long as they remember you Lynne when those Local ballots come around looking for more money for the School Districts. I only wish more Business' would invest better into our Public Schools rather then take the cheap labor route and complaining that they can't find Americans who can do the same work for the same amount of pay.

Than they vote for Politicians who will lower the standards of Education to dumb down our students to create a cheaper labor source. It is terrible the way our Education System isn't protected from whatever Joe buys themselves into Office these days.

Money is only scary in the wrong hands because of all the damage they can do with it. That is why I want to see it spread around better.

I would much rather hear that they can brag that their Ushers are the best paid in America and can afford to rent a subsidized place in New York. Can't expect anyone to be able to rent at a normal price but they can afford to pay much better than they do.

New York is the most expensive place to live in America. I wish more people would understand that to be true.

I just know that the Unions that did get broken, the Auto and Air Traffic Controllers Union are in bad shape right now. It didn't improve our situation at all. We still don't have the Cars we want. Air travel with so many Planes being under serviced and getting old are more behind schedule with more problems than ever. There are even more Planes in the air right now and fewer Controllers to keep track of them. Very few want the job. The field is in very poor condition right now considering how many people travel today. I never see a happy Steward or Stewardess these days.

Considering now we have to get to the Airport an hour earlier just so we can leave an hour or two later because our Plane has some sort of malfunction makes me wonder why we don't have more terrorists in the sky than we already do. Our Government is now creating them for us. Nothing like spending three hours in some forsaken Airport with a bunch of really unhappy people. That is progress to so many Posters here so it seems?

I get tired of Executives blaming their worries on those under them when they are not doing their job in making sure that they are getting the best product out on the Market. To be fair though people are really fickle. It takes a lot more to get people out of their Homes and into a Theatre. Especially when the price of gas is so high it effects everything you have to buy.

Even lowering the price of a ticket won't get people in to see a show they just don't like. Some people, like me, will only pay so much for a show, depending on how much I want to see it. I have a budget so I am limited on how much I can pay or see, usually because ticket prices are high. In America at least, I don't think there are enough people who can afford to pay for $100 tickets for everything. That too is why some shows fail. You will only pay that much for a show you really like.


Though using that $450 example always bothers me some. Mel had to re-price a lot of those tickets. Very few of them really sell. I bet at least half of those are sold on show day for the regular overpriced tag of $110.00. If you have a coupon, maybe even less than that. Bad example.

"However, when the demands of stagehands are somewhat outlandish (as I understand them to be)...THAT'S when I no longer support the ideals behind the union."

Bdwyfan4: Since we are both not stagehands, without the knowledge of exactly what a stagehand does, not privy to what is really being said at the negotiating table, we are not truly informed as the the truth of what and who is demanding the outlandish.

If the producers were really serious about negotiating the contract to begin with, they would not have tried to enforce work rules that were not negotiated. In my parlance, it would be like the DOE said I have to work with double the number of students in my class and I had no choice but to do it.

We only hear what is public and like divorce, there is two stories and somewhere in the middle is truth.

Solidarity forever!

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Bwayfan4: I respect your point of view. My point of view does not come just from being a union member, although I will admit it colors it, it comes from having a very close relative currently in a Broadway show and hurting from it's effects, yet feeling strongly that he needs to support the stagehands.

Can I use that grain of salt to season my turkey? I hope everyone has something and someone to be grateful for this year and every year to come. Happy Thanksgiving!

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Even if it was settled in a few days, it would take a few days to get the shows up & running. It looks like this week will be a washout. By the time they get around to settling it, it will be too late. Many people may have already changed their plans

Maybe the audience needs to strike when they return & let them know we have had it with all this foolishness. If anyone thinks that the union has no fault in this, I have a bridge I would like to sell them.

When they return, many may say "who cares".

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If they come to some kind of agreement Sunday night I would hope they can do shows on Tuesday.

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This will not be settled any time soon IMO. I hope I am wrong but the situation looks bad. We are watching a game of chicken where many innocent people are being hurt.

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I'm sorry to say that it won't be up by Tuesday. We will be lucky we should get the Grinch up and running. I'm not sure how an appeal will hold up the show. Can they work will the Jujamcyn is appealing? Do they have the right to? I don't know enough about the Law to say. The rest? I don't see the Union any closer to settling. Nothing serious yet on the Table. Maybe some of the League will show up on Monday but they like long vacations. Most people who travel take off Monday after Thanksgiving.

Mr. Roxy, the other Union Members, well most of them, understand this strike isn't just about the Stagehands but the League growing too powerful and wanting to cut back on everyone's benefits and wages.

Theatre fans? It isn't the only form of Entertainment. Producers? That hurts but they do have insurance. Anyone who risked putting up a show with a pending strike and didn't buy into some form of protection were gambling with other people's money. Disney will get back some of their losses. There is no way they are going home empty handed from a Courtroom.

Trouble with gambling is sometimes you lose. The odds are always against you. Mel knew this and he avoided it. How could the others not?

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Luckily this Union doesn't need Brwyfan to settle it's contract. Brwyfan though does need the Stagehands to vote and support their pay raises.

Luckily also, many of us support schools even though we aren't happy with the way the system is being run right now. If I took their attitude, I'd not vote for higher taxes for School Board expenses.

I would however love to see some intelligent examples from Brwyfan to prove why they feel the issues the Stagehands are fighting over are unjust. Since you are a Teacher and we hope are capable of making intelligent decisions this should be very easy for you to provide.

Thank you for indulging me since obviously you seem to have some information the rest of us are not privvy to?

Josh it isn't being negative. It is about business. I understand this isn't your thing but you will have to understand all of this better eventually. Very hard lessons to be learned here. You can make a note of it and learn or just put all of your posts in Capitol letters and be annoying.

If it bothers you so much why do you read these threads? Stay on the ones that just talk about the shows contents.

You could use this time to write some of your own music. This is a difficult business and considering how many shows close and don't make much money, why is it a surprise that something like is happening?

Tkt2ride, I have no comment at this time.

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You could use this time to write some of your own music. This is a difficult business and considering how many shows close and don't make much money, why is it a surprise that something like is happening?

What's the point in writing my own music when I have NO CHANCE of having it displayed on Broadway now?!!!

It is a surprise that something like this is happening because this is the first time in 121 years that there was a stagehand's strike, and because it is, this may last an unbelievably long time.

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Use your Broadway is alright line to those who work in bars & hotels, live from paycheck to paycheck, & will lose a large amount of money this holiday season because of the strike.

What do you say to them? Tough ****, who cares, not my problem. For once, put yourself in their position & say how you would not be angry at all the parties involved.

If you cannot acknowledge that Broadway has lost audiences due to high prices & that continuing escalating prices will hurt, there is no point of further discussion. I guess you feel average people will gladly fork over $ 150 to $ 200 for a regular seat.

Time will tell I guess. By the way, when a strike took away a World series years ago, the fans stayed away for awhile for whatever it is worth.

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