The Wild Party: Battle of the "L's"- Page 3

[Jazzysuite82]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 12:03am

well I mean the show was like a month and a half ago soo it's a little early to tell. Working with her was very educational. I learned so much just talking to her. Give her some direction and she's good as gold in my opinion.

I'm sorry I can appreciate someone who like's Lippa's version better, but MJLAC's version is HARDLY boring.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 12:03am

oops, I know

HAHA

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 12:46am

Let me defend myself since I made the comment about Lippa's having a better cast (uniformaly). First off, as many of you know I am not a Mandy Patinkin fan. That said, I think he did a pretty good job as Burs even though he does a few things that grate on my nerves. Personally, I think Brian did a better job in the character and I love his voice 100x more than Patinkin. Although I did like how Patinkin's take on the role was more vaudvillian. As for Queenie, both women were AMAZING and should be applauded. As for Kate, I think Idina did a better job mainly because I think her songs were better than Tonya's. Though Tonya made more of a bi*chy Kate than Idina. As for Black, I like the guy on Lachuisa's version better than Taye although I like him too. I think the end of Lippa's version is more powerful and heartbreaking than Lachuisa's version. I mean you can sense the hate and sadness coming from Burs.....BREATHTAKING. And I have to give a special shout-out to Eartha. She did a fantastic job for what little she had to work with. As for Madeline, Lippa's version takes the cake. "Old Fashioned..." is one of the best female solos to show off your acting and singing. WOW!!! Also, like I said before, if I had to choose what party I would want to go to, I would choose Lippa's party over Lachuisa's because the atomsphere seems a lot more interesting. So, let's tally up the score.

Lippa's: IIIII
Lachuisa's: IIII

So, you see out of the comments I made above, Lippa's only comes out barely ahead of Lachuisas. So, I love them both but like Lippa's just a little better.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 12:53am

I agree that some things Many does irritate me...but overall I think he was beyond amazing.

I thinnk Idina is the better singer, but think Tonya and Idina are a draw in the show.

Obviously, I agree about Lippa's Old Fashioned...

I also agree that Yancey Arias is a better Black than Taye (haha, that sounds funny). I am not really a Taye fan, and think he ruins "Make Me Happy"

I disagree about the finale. I like the reprise of Life of the Party but I love Queenie's last lines of LaChiusa's version.

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 12:58am

i hardcore disagree about the ending. la's is by far much more heart breaking i think.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 12:59am

I didn't neccesarily (did I spell that right?) mean the VERY end of the show. I mean, the showdown between Burrs, Queenie, and Black. I do agree though about the last line of Lachusia's version.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:01am

No, I mean that - the showdown is in the "Finale" of LaChiusa's version.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:03am

OH!!! Well, to tell you the truth, I haven't listened to LaChuisa's in a while so I will listen to it tomorrow to make a final judgement.

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:04am

spider you should give it another chance.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:05am

It's funny...

After listenign to Li's, I listened to La's and thought it was OK. Now I can't get enough of it.

I know if anyone else reads this, I'll get torn apart, but I like it better than "some" of Sondheim's scores...

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:07am

...but for me to say that doesn't mean much...

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:08am

Don't get me wrong, I like LaChuisa's version...I used to listen to it a good bit when I got it but I just like Lippa's version a wee bit better. But, I will listen to LaChuisa's version tomorrow because I seriously can't remember what the end sounds like.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:09am

IT sounds amazing.

I'm gonna whore up some more before going to bed...

I almost feel guilty getting it at a discounted price (almost half off)...and I am Jewish...

Updated On: 4/4/05 at 01:09 AM

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:12am

it is better than some sondheim. no question.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:13am

well.......that is another discussion for another thread and I will keep my mouth shut before I am butchered Sweeney style.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:13am

I just can't get enough of it.

Could it replace Les Mis?

HAHA, I doubt it...

But I have been using it to block out my roommate's snoring at night...Which isn't a good selling point....but still...

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:20am

but still. it definitely was one of the most under-appreciated shows of the recent decades.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:21am

I'll toast to that two-fold

[Chrysanthemum62001]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:39am

Andrew Lippa is brilliant.

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:41am

i enjoy andrew lippa's music, but i think his music and his show are a dichotomy. whereas lachiusa's are seemless.

[Thenardier]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 1:46am

Lippa's show is playing now...

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:40am

Hey guys! Woo, what an interesting thread. I love LaChiusa's version although I don't know Lippa's all too well. I musical directed the LaChiusa version at my college last semester. Madeleine does have more songs than on the CD. She has the little but o so important "Everyone Has Their Secrets" and she also leads the ensemble in the song "Need," which is basically the part of the show where every has sex (the concept of "need" is such a crucial element to LaChiusa's show). The song is right before "Black Is a Moocher" and it continues after the song, you can hear a little bit of it at the end of the track on the CD. They couldn't record all the music in the show because it was just not feasible. The entire show is underscored and/or sung (save one scene in which the absence of music and sound is nearly deafening) and to split the show into two CDs would be disastrous since it's meant to be one continuous party and a one-act musical. So yeah it just wouldn't fit on the CD. I think they did a fantastic job of representing the show on disc, though. It's great.

I don't Lippa's version too well, but is it true that Jackie is mute or dumb or somehow disabled like that? Is he still involved in the rape? How does that work out? Does he not sing?

And Kate in LaChiusa's version does not have to be black at all. Our Kate was amazing and was not black.

I guess there's another reason why I enjoy LaChiusa's score and show so much. Every single song has an underlying meaning. All the happy sounding music only sounds happy because they're masking how it really is. It's all so deep, intricate, and multi-layered. The score fleshes each character into actual people and you can really see into their not-so-fabulous lives. These people are not happy, they're not having fun at this party, and yet they appear to. And it's one of those shows that really makes one question his own life, the way he lives, his society, and the motives for all of his actions. This show is not just about a party. It's about the people who come to witness this party. And therein lies the brilliance of the piece.

~Steven

[apdarcey]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:49am

that was brilliant mrmusic. really really well put.

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 2:57am

=) Thanks, heh.
Glad to have shared it.

~Steven

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 4/4/05 at 3:02am

Both are incredible.


"People Like Us" from LaChuisa's is one of my favorite songs ever (musical theatre or not)