What A Shock- Page 4
What A Shock
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#75re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:07am
'DHP should go to Hell. i hate him alot.'
Charming. I must have you to dinner.
Honestly, if all of you are taking it this hard, you have all over-identified with an actor and a role and need to take a step back.
It's one thing to really love and be moved by a performance...but the anger over losing a meaningless award?? Seriously. Count to 10.
And brd, I've only been singing it for 17 year!
"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."
#75re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:07amBDavis I agree with you and hopefully he continues to keep the show running.
<------ Me and my friends with patti Lupone at my friends afterparty for her concert with audra mcdonald during the summer of 2007.
"I am sorry but it is an unjust world and virtue is only triumphant in theatricle performances" The Mikado
"I am sorry but it is an unjust world and virtue is only triumphant in theatricle performances" The Mikado
#77re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:12amWatch Judi Dench, she cannot sing, she doesn't have a voice, but her Send In The Clowns is the best performance ever through out history! She's also the best Sally Bowles ever! Good musical actors are those that even though I just listen to their voices, I can notice that there are acting inside their voices. This is what musical theatre is all about! Bernadette's Being Alive is amazing, even though her voice crack! Listen to Larry Kert's Being Alive. Yes, he got good techniques and a voice, but it's lifeless.
Somebody sit in my chair, and ruin my sleep, and make me aware of being alive!
B Girl
Understudy Joined: 1/3/06
#78re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:14am
Honestly i wanted Jonathan Groff to win but i resigned the fate of the award to go to Raul and after seeing his performance tonight i thought he deserved it....
Then THAT happened...but it's ok i think even DHP knows that he didn't deserve to win, i mean honestly look at his face when they read the names off and his acceptance speech. Groff and Esparza def. split the vote on this one.
#79re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:16amI disagree with Dench's send in the clowns being the best performance in history. I think Patti Lupone's Roses Turn is the best performance in history. -awaits a somewhat thread jacked debated and apologizes in advance-
<------ Me and my friends with patti Lupone at my friends afterparty for her concert with audra mcdonald during the summer of 2007.
"I am sorry but it is an unjust world and virtue is only triumphant in theatricle performances" The Mikado
"I am sorry but it is an unjust world and virtue is only triumphant in theatricle performances" The Mikado
#80re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:17amReally not shocking at all. I have been predicting Pierce's win for weeks now, and no one listened. See?
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
Kavana
Featured Actor Joined: 5/16/03
#81re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:18am
DHP really didnt deserve that award. I wish they would stop giving the Tony's to people for other shows then the ones they are nominated for.
Lachanze should have one for OOTI not TCP
It reminds me of 2003 when Bernadette Peters sung Rose's Turn and killed it and Marissa won.
We all gagged.
commasplice
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/29/04
#82re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:20am
"And allvocal- YES they do vote on who is more famous. It's called name recognition. See: John Lithgow in Sweet Smell of Success."
Your logic doesn't hold up. Vanessa Redgrave and Angela Lansbury didn't win Best Actress in a Play tonight and they're both far more recognizable names than Julie White. Christina Applegate didn't win for Sweet Charity, Vanessa Williams didn't win for Into the Woods, Hank Azaria didn't win for Spamalot, and other "names" such as Kevin Spacey, Julia Roberts, and Julianne Moore weren't nominated for their performances this and last season. Just a few examples. Don't make excuses for Raul - just accept that the Tony voters didn't see it your way and hope for better next year.
(And for the record: I didn't really care who won.)
#83re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:21amDoes anyone have a sense of why this happened? I mean, yes, we're all upset, but has any one seen DHP in Curtains and RE in Company both, and have an idea as to why this seemed like a legitimate choice to the committee?
Having just a vision's no solution.
#84re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:24am
When Raul didn't win, I was like "HUH?!". Not that I have anything against David Hyde Piece or Curtains (I'm actually looking forward to seeing it later this summer), but I believe that Raul's performance was phenomenal & the award should've gone to him.
#85re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:26amTheatreboy49: Oh, I mean the best "Send in the Clown" performance.
Somebody sit in my chair, and ruin my sleep, and make me aware of being alive!
#86re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:28am
AtLeastIveBeenThere:
Although I probably would have voted for Esparza (admit it, it's a weak category), I can see why Pierce won. I did predict his win, and I think I predicted it for a number of reasons. He's a great guy, he's loved in the industry, he's nice, easy to get along with, being famous doesn't hurt, and he's giving an honest and heartwarming performance in an otherwise okay show. He is a lot like his character in that Pierce clearly loves show business, and it shows.
I kind of knew Raul wouldn't win because I have been getting the impression that some industry folks don't love his personality. I've been hearing that he's cold, distant, tempermantal, etc. He may have given a great performance, but if people don't like you, they're not going to vote for you.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
MyLife
Broadway Star Joined: 12/2/06
#87re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:29am
I saw both, and I thought Raul was yards better. However, Raul doesn't really showcase his voice until the end of Company. Throughout the show, he is a little sarcastic and quiet. However, that is what the part calls for, and he did it perfectly. DHP has you laughing throughout the whole show; every line of his is a joke. So, right away DHP seems more entertaining. However, when analyzing the acting, Raul's part seems much more challenging. To make a seemingly boring part into something so special. You would think Tony voters would be able to see past the surface.
Raul said in an interview that he is most proud of this role, and he thinks it is the best piece of work he has ever been a part of, and I agree.
To DHP, he is funny and talented, but the show just doesn't show the depth of his acting capabilities so well because it's so shallow and fluffy.
#88re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:33am
munkustrap178: Well, this award is called "Best Leading Actor in a Musical", not "Best Friendy Guy in the Musical Industry". If they didnt vote just because he's a not good person, then the voters are far not professional as voters.
Somebody sit in my chair, and ruin my sleep, and make me aware of being alive!
Updated On: 6/11/07 at 12:33 AM
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#89re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:33amI suppose I'm the only one happy with tonight's result. I even would have given it to Michael over Raul.
#90re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:34amI'm not saying they are or they aren't. Someone asked why he won, so I said why I predicted his win. Don't tell me what the award is for, I didn't vote.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#91re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:34am
David Hyde Pierce is giving a terrific musical comedy performance. Of course his performance isn't going to have the "depth" of Raul's or anything because that's not what the role calls for. This is why Frank Langella and a bunch of other people say that you can't really judge who's the "Best Actor." David Hyde Pierce and Raul Esparza are both remarkable in their roles. I don't think they could be any better. It's just that David Hyde Pierce showed up to more Tony-affiliated events, it seems like. He's a more well-liked personality.
~Steven
#92re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:38amKuhnKrazy, no you are not alone.
A little swash, a bit of buckle - you'll love it more than bread.
#93re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:39amNo, you're not. I'm thrilled with Pierce's win.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#94re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:40am
I even would have given it to Michael over Raul.
I don't think people would be going so crazy if they gave it to Michael.
No?
Anyway, it's just an award. Really. Life goes on. Awards are given out to actors and musicals and movies that don't deserve it all the time. So what. I mean, I'd feel the same way if I was that passionate about someone's performance, but come on. There are more important things happening in the world.
Just my opinion.
Chorus Member Joined: 12/31/69
#96re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:44amcommaslpice, I'm not making "excuses" for Raul. I was only disagreeing when someone said that it was ridiculous that Tony voters would vote for someone just because of their name. It happens all the time in various award shows, I was simply correcting the alligation that a "name" would never come into play. I wasn't referring to DHP directly. I feel most likely that the vote was split, and that's what happened. Please don't tell me to "accept" it, because really that's just being rude. There's really no need. I was surprised, and a bit saddened. I'm not having an emotional breakdown.
#97re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 12:46amHonestly, I'm glad David Hyde Pierce won because it brought the only surprise of the evening. Am I the only one who was bored to tears because of the lack of mystery?
Perfectly Marvelous
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/16/06
#98re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 1:20am
munk;
I agree with the sentiment of your post. Reputation depends heavily on personality. I'm not knocking Raul Esparza at all, as I think he is absolutely wonderful. Of course it's disheartening he didn't get the nod, but all the b!tching in the world isn't going to change anything. I'm just glad Company got best revival and that he performed.
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#99re: What A Shock
Posted: 6/11/07 at 1:22amI remember when Raul lost for Taboo and it was disappointing. I was positive he was a lock this year. His performance on the Tony's alone was gorgeous. I am so sad for him. He deserved it. What a shock.
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