#26
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:21pm
AC1 - I'd say that Seldes is the "on the bubble" nominee of your list and the most excessable. I don't know why, but....'ya know?
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#27
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:25pm
I just feel it was a bit underhanded. I'm not saying that Redgrave didn't deserve a nomination...she's in a league of her own.
But pushing her to lead actress (when she was in a featured role) for the sole purpose of excluding Roberts is just wrong in my book. I think if she was the fifth best leading actress that year, that she should have gotten the nomination. Not promoting a featured actress to leave her out.
Roberts' performance was not award-worthy. But a nomination? I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
But pushing her to lead actress (when she was in a featured role) for the sole purpose of excluding Roberts is just wrong in my book. I think if she was the fifth best leading actress that year, that she should have gotten the nomination. Not promoting a featured actress to leave her out.
Roberts' performance was not award-worthy. But a nomination? I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
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#28
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:26pm
It didn't strike me as a personal snub last year. Roberts was mediocre and the five who received nominations all gave more accomplished performances than she did and deserved to be singled out. The ONLY reason to nominate Roberts last year would have been because of her fame, not because of her actual performance and thankfully the nominating committee didn't do that (same with Denzel in Julius Caesar).
Moore wasn't as bad as Roberts, but she also wasn't very good either in my opinion and seemed well out of her depth on stage opposite Nighy (who probably will get a nod, though his category is also very competitive). She's a truly great film actress, but just didn't seem to have the presence and power and stage chops that the role required -- something most critics (and I'm guessing most of the nominating committee) will agree with. Beyond that, in a season with White, Redgrave, Lansbury, Seldes, Pinkins, Best, et al all competing for five slots, there's simply no room for Moore. Perhaps she might have had a shot in a less competitive season, but this year? No way. Again, her omission, like Roberts', will be nothing personal.
Moore wasn't as bad as Roberts, but she also wasn't very good either in my opinion and seemed well out of her depth on stage opposite Nighy (who probably will get a nod, though his category is also very competitive). She's a truly great film actress, but just didn't seem to have the presence and power and stage chops that the role required -- something most critics (and I'm guessing most of the nominating committee) will agree with. Beyond that, in a season with White, Redgrave, Lansbury, Seldes, Pinkins, Best, et al all competing for five slots, there's simply no room for Moore. Perhaps she might have had a shot in a less competitive season, but this year? No way. Again, her omission, like Roberts', will be nothing personal.
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#29
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:33pm
I believe most people agreed with Margo's stance on Roberts' performance, Nicole Kidman at least received a Theater World Award when she made her Broadway debut. Kate Burton mentioned in an interview last year that had Kidman opened with the Blue Room last season she would have probably been nominated.
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#30
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:36pm
Regarding Redgrave,
The Tony Administration Committee determines categories periodically throughout the season. It was decided by them that Redgrave would be considered Leading and not Featured literally MONTHS before Roberts had even been announced as coming to Broadway in THREE DAYS OF RAIN. CONSTANT WIFE opened at the very beginning of the season in June and the Administration Comittee decided to place place Redgrave in the Lead category a few months later in their Fall meeting. THREE DAYS OF RAIN opened that next April. So, one can hardly accuse them of purposely trying to nudge Roberts out of a nomination by placing Redgrave in the category -- she'd already been declared Lead over six months before.
The Nominating Committee met in May to decide who was to get those five slots for Best Actress. Redgrave was one of the eligible choices and since nearly everyone would agree that she had given a more accomplished performance than Roberts, as a result she got a nomination.
I just don't see any nefarious motives behind any of this.
The Tony Administration Committee determines categories periodically throughout the season. It was decided by them that Redgrave would be considered Leading and not Featured literally MONTHS before Roberts had even been announced as coming to Broadway in THREE DAYS OF RAIN. CONSTANT WIFE opened at the very beginning of the season in June and the Administration Comittee decided to place place Redgrave in the Lead category a few months later in their Fall meeting. THREE DAYS OF RAIN opened that next April. So, one can hardly accuse them of purposely trying to nudge Roberts out of a nomination by placing Redgrave in the category -- she'd already been declared Lead over six months before.
The Nominating Committee met in May to decide who was to get those five slots for Best Actress. Redgrave was one of the eligible choices and since nearly everyone would agree that she had given a more accomplished performance than Roberts, as a result she got a nomination.
I just don't see any nefarious motives behind any of this.
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#31
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:55pm
I am hoping that Laila Robins' performance in HEARTBREAK HOUSE is remembered with at least a nomination. She gave the strongest performance in that production.
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#32
Posted: 2/18/07 at 12:03am
I agree with you, Yankee.
And I agree with you, too, D2. I'd love to see Robins remembered; she was terrific.
And I agree with you, too, D2. I'd love to see Robins remembered; she was terrific.
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#33
Posted: 2/18/07 at 12:31am
I agree on Robins as well. She was fantastic. I'd even give her a nod over Lily Rabe, who received more critical accolades than Robins.
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#34
Posted: 2/18/07 at 12:39am
This thread made me think of another question but I didn't want to make a new board cause it's kind of stupid. What happens to costumes once a show closes? I know that sets are shredded, but does it make sense to have costumes go to waste, couldn't some be donated? Anybody know?
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#35
Posted: 2/18/07 at 12:43am
I think a lot of the costumes go to the TDF costume shop.
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#36
Posted: 2/18/07 at 2:43am
I realize it is ironic to say that someone could have done a better job playing herself, but I personally did not think that Lisa Kron was any better than Julia Roberts. The real shame is that Jayne Houdyshell lost her Tony because Well closed so early (and also because of the History Boys tidal wave).
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#37
Posted: 2/18/07 at 3:14am
Houdyshell did not lose because the show closed early. The show closed on May 14th, less than a month before the Tony Awards. She lost because her category was extremely competitive. Against Tyne Daly, Frances de la Tour, and Zoe Wanamaker (plus Alison Pill, who was good but nowheres near as good as the other 4), Houdyshell didn't really stand much of a chance. If de la Tour hadn't taken it, it would have gone to Tyne Daly, who was OUTSTANDING in Rabbit Hole. Wanamaker also gave a brilliant performance. But de la Tour's comic timing is what really clinched it.
#38
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:21am
Costumes are sold to rental companies. It is not uncommon to see actual Broadway costumes turn up in community theatre, or even school, productions.
Set pieces are not neccesarily destroyed. They can be sold or rented out to regional theatres. I remember seeing the Chicago premiere of COMPANY in 1972, with the original Boris Aronson set, which they purchased from the Broadway producers. They then sold the set to the University of Illinois, which sold it to some other theatre after they were done. Of course, Aronson was always credited as the designer, and received a royalty for its use.
The rule is that Broadway sets cannot be re-used in other Broadway productions, because this would deprive the people who build and paint scenery of work. Unions are powerful.
Set pieces are not neccesarily destroyed. They can be sold or rented out to regional theatres. I remember seeing the Chicago premiere of COMPANY in 1972, with the original Boris Aronson set, which they purchased from the Broadway producers. They then sold the set to the University of Illinois, which sold it to some other theatre after they were done. Of course, Aronson was always credited as the designer, and received a royalty for its use.
The rule is that Broadway sets cannot be re-used in other Broadway productions, because this would deprive the people who build and paint scenery of work. Unions are powerful.
#39
Posted: 2/18/07 at 9:43am
The first time I saw LDL, a couple of months or more ago, there were Tony voters in the audience, so the producers were at least smart enough to get them in early. Not smart enough to market the show to the public, but at least the voters are getting in.
However, the out-of-town voters tend to schedule NYC trips to see as many nominated shows as they can at once (which makes the most sense, of course), so as you can imagine, they all try to get in closer to the Tonys.
However, the out-of-town voters tend to schedule NYC trips to see as many nominated shows as they can at once (which makes the most sense, of course), so as you can imagine, they all try to get in closer to the Tonys.
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