Will Stephen Schwartz ever win a Tony? — Page 2

Maybe some weak, weak season he will.

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He'll eventually get a lifetime achievement Tony, most likely. He's written several worldwide hits. I doubt Godspell has even been out of production since the licensing was originally released. Pippin has been permanently branded into Fossedom. And Wicked shows no signs of ever slowing down. Even the Tonys eventually can't ignore that.

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He'll never win.
And regarding the "Jerry Herman never won until he came out" comments-
Everyone on Broadway knew he was gay when he won for Hello, Dolly!. He wasn't embarassed or affraid to come out.
And Schwartz has been married for many years and has children, I think. I don't think there's any chance for a surprise "Honey, I'm gay" in his future.
AND I don't think they really care if you're gay or not gay or whatever anymore. Alex Cohen might have, but not now.

He's yet to write something deserving in my opinion. His lyrics are god awful. Perhaps someday, but if his current body of work is any indication I'd say no. But who knows? The tonys are becoming more and more a popularity contest.

He won't win a Tony until he writes a deserving score. All up until now are mediocre and not as good as the scores that beat his,

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Updated On: 7/10/08 at 04:23 PM

It's still nice to be recognized.

You mean he didn't win for Wicked?!?!?!?

OUTRAGE

Not unless they give a Tony for "Biggest Hissy Fit for Losing to a Puppet".

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Is there some sort of TOS on this board that says we have to hate Stephen Schwartz?

I agree he sometimes writes lyrics that are too convoluted to be understood in the theater, but I don't understand the extreme hatred here.

What "statistics" determine whether a score is "deserving" or not?

I don't know why anyone cares whether he was disappointed over losing the Tony to "Avenue Q." Hell, Patti Lupone WON a Tony for "Gypsy" and then bitched during her acceptance speech that it took so long for voters to give her a SECOND Tony!

While it's true that "Magic Show" was dominated by the tricks, it's still a fun score in the recording and provided a lot of girls with audition material in "West End Avenue" and "Lion Tamer."

"Pippin" and "Godspell" were much beloved in their day and the latter (along with "JSC" and "Hair") was very influential in attracting pop fans who otherwise thought they didn't care for Broadway. I believe both have spawned hundreds of stock and amateur productions.

As for "Wicked", I'm surprised that people think the score is so lacking. Myself, I like much of that score and there are moments--such as giving "Loathing" an uptempo, Latin beat--that are brilliant.

So if "undeserving" just means people think Schwartz has never had the best score in any year he's had a premiere, fair enough. But posters in this thread seem to be using "undeserving" as if it were some sort of mathematically demonstrable nadir.

Perhaps your statistics will make this clear to me.

Haven't got a Tony Award. Just asked a question.

Gaveston2, Stop being a shrill