Will Stephen Schwartz ever win a Tony?- Page 2

[amoni]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 9:52am

"he's got an Academy award... i don't think he's complaining too much"

You're right, and Oscar trumps Tony everytime, and actually he has three Academy Awards.


"Here's the thing. Stephen Schwartz needs to ADMIT that he is gay. He IS. And until he says it, I'm in the "not caring" position."

Not caring? You managed to click on a link, read the replies and then post so, yeah, so much for "not caring", but please tell the class, what possible business is Stephen Schwartz' sexuality any business of yours? Wow, how creepy of you.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 10:07am

Maybe some weak, weak season he will.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 10:31am

Oscar beats all and so do residuals. This man has evergreen properties that will live well beyond most and that speaks volumes. They love him, they really love him.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 10:52am

He'll eventually get a lifetime achievement Tony, most likely. He's written several worldwide hits. I doubt Godspell has even been out of production since the licensing was originally released. Pippin has been permanently branded into Fossedom. And Wicked shows no signs of ever slowing down. Even the Tonys eventually can't ignore that.

[uncageg]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 11:05am

I read somewhere about 4 years ago that while he is glad he got the Oscars, he wants a Tony. I kinda lost some respect for him after he walked out after losing for Wicked. That was childish to me. JMO

[jv92]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 11:07am

He'll never win.
And regarding the "Jerry Herman never won until he came out" comments-
Everyone on Broadway knew he was gay when he won for Hello, Dolly!. He wasn't embarassed or affraid to come out.
And Schwartz has been married for many years and has children, I think. I don't think there's any chance for a surprise "Honey, I'm gay" in his future.
AND I don't think they really care if you're gay or not gay or whatever anymore. Alex Cohen might have, but not now.

[ljay889]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 11:15am

If an Oscar is SO much better than a Tony, why does he storm out of the Tonys when he loses?

[Henry Savage]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 12:46pm

He's yet to write something deserving in my opinion. His lyrics are god awful. Perhaps someday, but if his current body of work is any indication I'd say no. But who knows? The tonys are becoming more and more a popularity contest.

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 12:54pm

Don't forget his interviews within the following six months, in which he continuously whined that he had not won the Tony.

Awesome.

[puppet]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 4:23pm

He won't win a Tony until he writes a deserving score. All up until now are mediocre and not as good as the scores that beat his,

Updated On: 7/10/08 at 04:23 PM

[martinman]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 6:50pm

I doubt he has ever lost a minute of sleep over it....he's too tired from going to the bank for the past 30 years to make all those DEPOSITS$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...

[Henry Savage]

Posted: 7/10/08 at 9:08pm

It's still nice to be recognized.

[tenorio]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 1:43am

Um yeah...that's true it has been around a while- it was originally done in 1977.

[chewy5000]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 1:59am

You mean he didn't win for Wicked?!?!?!?

OUTRAGE

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 2:07am

Maybe if he wrote a decent score he would have a chance. Maybe.

[Mildred Plotka]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 2:41am

Not unless they give a Tony for "Biggest Hissy Fit for Losing to a Puppet".

[Mildred Plotka]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 2:41am

dp

Updated On: 8/16/11 at 02:41 AM

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 2:50am

Is there some sort of TOS on this board that says we have to hate Stephen Schwartz?

I agree he sometimes writes lyrics that are too convoluted to be understood in the theater, but I don't understand the extreme hatred here.

[jimmycurry01]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 3:15am

There isn't a lot of hatred, in fact it seems there is very little hatred. People have simply stated that he has yet to write a deserving score, and statistics seem to back that up. It is also being pointed out that he is a sore loser. None of that is hatred, just simply stating what seems to be obvious to many people here.

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 4:25am

What "statistics" determine whether a score is "deserving" or not?

I don't know why anyone cares whether he was disappointed over losing the Tony to "Avenue Q." Hell, Patti Lupone WON a Tony for "Gypsy" and then bitched during her acceptance speech that it took so long for voters to give her a SECOND Tony!

While it's true that "Magic Show" was dominated by the tricks, it's still a fun score in the recording and provided a lot of girls with audition material in "West End Avenue" and "Lion Tamer."

"Pippin" and "Godspell" were much beloved in their day and the latter (along with "JSC" and "Hair") was very influential in attracting pop fans who otherwise thought they didn't care for Broadway. I believe both have spawned hundreds of stock and amateur productions.

As for "Wicked", I'm surprised that people think the score is so lacking. Myself, I like much of that score and there are moments--such as giving "Loathing" an uptempo, Latin beat--that are brilliant.

So if "undeserving" just means people think Schwartz has never had the best score in any year he's had a premiere, fair enough. But posters in this thread seem to be using "undeserving" as if it were some sort of mathematically demonstrable nadir.

Perhaps your statistics will make this clear to me.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 5:34am

...and just where is YOUR Tony Award?

[Gaveston2]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 5:48am

Haven't got a Tony Award. Just asked a question.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 7:12am

Sorry Galveston, that wasn't directed at you. It's for all the posters on this thread who are criticizing Stephen Schwartz.

[Johnnycantdecide]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 7:26am

Gaveston2, Stop being a shrill

[gvendo2005]

Posted: 8/16/11 at 7:42am

And Schwartz has been married for many years and has children, I think. I don't think there's any chance for a surprise "Honey, I'm gay" in his future.

He is married, he does have children, but anyone on BWW should know that's no guarantee of any sexuality. In fact, it likely increases the chances for a surprise "Honey, I'm gay" in this sordid business. Whether he is or isn't, I can't say. I can say I've heard things.