Perhaps it might be more interesting to try to turn the thread into a discussion of why these shows failed, or what makes them "bad," rather than just kvetching about the existence of the thread?
But many of the shows here DIDN'T fail. And conversations go where conversations go.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.