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Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an "everyday thing"

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tazber
#50Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 3:52pm

Too late for that.


....but the world goes 'round

FindingNamo
#51Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:03pm

They are three great movies of any genre.


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haterobics
#52Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:07pm

Can you watch them out of order, or will you be lost?

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South Florida
#53Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:08pm

I haven't evolved enough.


Stephanatic

FindingNamo
#54Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:15pm

The first of the trilogy came out in 1976. All gay men over 40 should have seen it.


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#55Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:20pm

South Florida. You are an SJB fan and quite active on BroadwayWorld.com, but you're absolutely repulsed by the visuals of two men being intimate? Jesus Christ.

Are you, by any chance, a self-loathing closeted homosexual?

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#56Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:36pm

Here's me. I'm an SJB fan cause I saw her down here in Wicked. I had seen Broadway shows before but only a few. a traveling tour of Rent, Phantom in NY. Something about Stephanie J. and wicked stirred my heart. Since then I've been looking for other story telling musicals that thrive in my heart, the current one is Fun Home.


Stephanatic

FindingNamo
#57Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:46pm

So don't be a Bruce Bechdel! Be liberated!


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#58Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:47pm

And look both ways before crossing the street!

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#59Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 4:48pm

Thank God for this thread--I never knew Gage made a third film in that series! :O

FindingNamo
#60Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 5:06pm

But it was a trilogy. Plus the coda, "Heatstroke," that had a title theme song by Man Parrish, which was released on a major label.



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#61Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 5:13pm

Wasn't there a sequel to Gage's "Closed Set"? I seem to remember there was.

FindingNamo
#62Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 5:25pm

Closed Set came after Heatstroke. The post Sam Gage world brought us a Closed Set 2 that was shot on video post-AIDS.


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#63Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 5:36pm

I had no idea Gage, under his real name, directed Robot Holocaust--a fave as a teen (...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kincaid

FindingNamo
#64Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 5:40pm

Yeah, and I know who Sam Gage was but was sworn to secrecy. He was casting director on a VERY major TV series and helped Joe Gage with his cinematic ambitions. Even though Kansas City Trucking Co was made on a shoestring with looped dialogue, it looks like a million bucks. From El Paso on we're talking great filmmaking all around.


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#65Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 6:27pm

I had drinks with Jack Wrangler once, do I get any bragging rights here? Joe Allen's. (I've always wanted to write "The Night Jack Wrangler Shook My Hand (twice)" but I haven't found a through-line yet, a damned "arc".)


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FindingNamo
#66Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 6:30pm

Of COURSE you do! Walking down Restaurant Row once with my boyfriend I was like, "Who is that glamorous woman so dressed up before sunset?" and it turned out to be Margaret Whiting being escorted into a supper club by Jack. Boyfriend didn't gay gasp at ALL even though I did. I only nodded, what was there to say?


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#67Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 6:39pm

I talked to Ms. Whiting on the phone about 3 days later, as I had a business contact to relay to Mr. Wrangler. We had a mutual friend who invited me for drinks that night. They were headed to hear Jill O'Hara's cabaret debut, to put a bit of timeline on the event. I'm thinking this was circa 1988, no later than spring of '89. He was kind, articulate, and very short; I towered over him. And he didn't drink alcohol, if memory serves. The hair was surfer blonde. I kept his card for years.


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Updated On: 1/20/15 at 06:39 PM

FindingNamo
#68Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 6:41pm

If only he could have kicked those Virginia Slims, he might still be with us.

He was in the first of the Gage trilogy movies, "Kansas City Trucking Co." doing the kind of thing Billy Crystal doesn't want people to think of as "every day."


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Updated On: 1/20/15 at 06:41 PM

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#69Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 6:48pm

I think I only checked out Kansas City Trucking in the first place (which led me to looking up more Gage films,) after seeing the excellent Jack Wrangler documentary. (And here some older gay men claim younger gay guys have no interest in gay history... :P )

Updated On: 1/20/15 at 06:48 PM

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#70Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 6:53pm

Just tossing--heh, heh--my hat into it for Joe Gage! Loving his current Allen Silver collaborations, too. My, those tense pauses!


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FindingNamo
#71Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 7:09pm

I think maybe Joe Gage deserves a family friendly thread of his own, if that's possible. I mean, I'd be inclined to link to his blog, but it's NSFF, not safe for fantods.


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#72Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/20/15 at 10:27pm

My El Paso Trucking Company is still my most prized VHS tape.


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#73Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/21/15 at 10:15am

And don't forget my favorite Kincaid film, "Bad Girl's Dormitory"! A classic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcRTj5gqhN4

"Hose Me Down", written and sung by Beth Rudetsky, Seth's sister.


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#74Billy Crystal doesn't want gay sex scenes on tv treated as an
Posted: 1/21/15 at 12:23pm

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