Carlos, my complaint was mainly about the protagonist. The supporting characters are great and well worth watching the show, and as a fellow Latino who cares a lot about representation of gay Latinos on media, I can say it's definitely worth checking out. I don't know that I'm gonna stay for the entire season but it has some potential if they can manage to get away from some of the shallowness that ran through some of the episode. Kad, I disagree with your take on how the date would have been handled in SEX & THE CITY. I think overall people tend to misremember that show; Carrie Bradshaw (at least in seasons 1-4) could be incredibly inept, unlikable, difficult, and self-destructive as much as she could be cute, prissy, entitled and ignorant, and I don't think the show ignored those traits. I didn't see much of a difference between Jonathan Groff's character and all those 90s/early 2000s romantic comedy heroines. Again, it's just a pilot, so we'll see what direction they take the character. Right now, I didn't see Groff's acting matching the naturalistic style of the rest of the cast and the character was a bit bland for my taste.
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I found it dreadfully dull and barely made it through the 29-minute show. I'm surprised HBO didn't show 2 episodes back-to-back to give people more to gauge interest and get them hooked.
I'll give it another shot to see if it picks up, but "Trick" seemed to do this much better.
I get why the show is polarizing--and why some people simply didn't feel anything happened (in one respect, I suppose that's true.)
I didn't really see any similarity in tone to Trick--but it's been a very long time since I've seen that (I have it on VHS somewhere...) I do agree though that the interesting thing will be to see where they do go from here--if anywhere.
I was literally yelling at the screen: "No! You don't do that!! @ the scene where Patrick (Groff) tells his date in the restaurant about his tryst in the park.
"I was literally yelling at the screen: "No! You don't do that!! @ the scene where Patrick (Groff) tells his date in the restaurant about his tryst in the park."
Yes, me too. That's the one scene that felt off -- we've all had those dates that go very wrong very suddenly, but is he really that dumb? Groff managed to make it work, I think, but well...
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I agree with you Roscoe. That scene didn't ring true to me. I don't know anyone, including myself who would disclose that kind of information on a first date with a potential boyfriend, unless of course that person just really didn't care what anyone thought and I didn't get that from Groff's character at all.
Alcohol and nerves can give you diarrhea of the mouth. If I recall the scene correctly, from the expression on his face, Groff's character regretted saying what he had said almost immediately. The scene rang true to me.
Luscious, agreed, of course. It's mostly plausible, and it was well done enough for it not to be a deal breaker.
I went on a date with a guy who revealed that he'd done a surprisingly extensive google search on me, and he was blithely coming up with some rather detailed information about my parents, and he showed no awareness that that was a pretty creepy thing to do. There sure as hell wasn't a second date, and I changed every damn online password I had when I got home.
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Yeah, it seemed to me that it was played in such a way that it was a result of both nerves and a very bad attempt at a sort of ironic anecdote.
And it's still so early in the series- perhaps Groff's character just sort of self-sabotages himself? He seems to be a big dater but can't really commit.
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I went on a date with a guy who revealed that he'd done a surprisingly extensive google search on me, and he was blithely coming up with some rather detailed information about my parents, and he showed no awareness that that was a pretty creepy thing to do. There sure as hell wasn't a second date, and I changed every damn online password I had when I got home.
Roscoe, something very similar happened to me. It's scary.
@ Kad: My roommate mentioned something to that effect saying that he felt Groff's character likes the idea of being in a relationship but in the end has commitment issues which lead him to sabotage any possibility of even having one.
"That review is ridiculous. For a show he calls "infuriating," he sure backs off of that statement very quickly."
Exactly. And his comments about it being straight out of Tales of the City and not realistic to a younger generation's experiences confuse me. I'm 33. The main night most of my friends like to go out clubbing is an 80s night so dancing to Erasure is not a foreign experience, and honestly most of my friends who are around my age have gone to a bath house at some point even if I don't think any of them do it regularly (or cruised a park just out of curiosity, something I admit I've never done.)
It just reads to me like another person complaining about a gay show being filled with stereotypes he can't relate to -- and yet at the same time he seems to be saying that it's not. *shrug*
I understand why some are bored by it. I wasn't. But the lengthy articles I've read about how boring it is kinda kill me. I mean...so many words on something you find boring?
"And it's still so early in the series- perhaps Groff's character just sort of self-sabotages himself? He seems to be a big dater but can't really commit. "
A few critics and online posters have complained that nobody "as cute" as Groff would have trouble having a long term relationship. Which doesn't make sense to me -- I have plenty of friends I think are very attractive but don't know how to navigate a relationship, or haven't had any luck with one anyway. Besides, as you say it's too early to say from the pilot of an 8 episode, 30 minute season, that a character's motivation or backstory doesn't ring true.
The majority of my gay friends my age have all remarked at how relatable the pilot was. While it certainly dealt in a lot of TV show character or plot tropes, it managed to avoid a lot of gay stereotypes. I thought, at least. Even its handling of the "in the woods cruise" managed to avert expectations.
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