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Updated On: 12/19/19 at 01:46 AM

well, sadly, it's just like spotlight. everyone knows what's going on. but religion is so precious to people, we would rather let it rape our children rather than let it go.

unfortunately, liberals are very much to blame for this, as the majority are unable to split religion from culture, and so they will not allow a mature conversation about the subject, axiomatically equating criticism of religion with racism. it's the same phenomena; religion is too precious, we'd rather let it burn down the world rather than let it go (seems like it will come to that, sadly).

that is a mistake, as people could have otherwise confronted religion using their own language. the christian far right was able to stoke fear of islam among moderates. we should have been responding that islam (and ISIS) comes from monotheism, and the need for people to have christianity is what gives us islam and ISIS in the first place. not working out too good for civilization.

to be clear, religion cannot be extirpated. we should not try. however, we should be doing what we can to minimize its public influence. that is to say, they deserve an EQUAL place at the table. at present, they are granted a SPECIAL place at the table.

Updated On: 6/4/17 at 05:12 AM

Why are so many people never exposed to anything else, even in this society? Why the hell is it taking so long for the government to do anything about that? The seeds are planted when they are very young. Schools and laws should take responsibility. It's the indoctrination of religion that is the real perpetrator.

That's funny, you talk about the world like your some scholar when in reality you don't know **** about anything. First of all, it's a well known fact that most home grown terrorists are radicalized later in life. You want to know what births them? ISIS Recruiters latching onto disdain for the Muslim faith which you are doing NOTHING to dispel. That's what breeds terrorism, not a religion.

"I strongly suspect that the daily bombing of Muslim families in the Middle East is a far bigger issue for them than a few people critiquing Islam on a Broadway message board."

Your suspicions are correct, Dogg, because the Muslim families don't even know about us.

oy vey.

I am so sick of hearing its liberals faults it's Republicans etc. Shut the hell up. You wanna place the blame? Look closer to home, your government, my government are arming terrorism and you are sat there blaming others? This has nothing to do with Islam, if you believe that then you need to get an education fast and stop watching Fox News.



Islam does not promote any of this, they are horrified their religion is hijacked by extreme terrorists. Our countries are bombing the crap out of the Middle East on a daily basis, at some point that was going to create this kind of action. It's like you all think it's as simple as the stupid narrative that Trump pushes, it's ridiculous.



Open youe eyes, your government, my goverement are the ones to blame. You can mock love and standing together all you want but I would rather go with that than the misguided hate that appears on here placing blame and mocking, what do you think that does exactly? What does this stupid thread title do? America is seen as the world leader in funding terror through Saudi Arabia and you are arguing about liberals etc? Get a damn clue.



As for showing the terrorists ain't breaking us here in the UK, instead of mocking us maybe you should look to exactly what your country did after Sept 11th and what that has caused?



The huge concert tonight in Manchester led by Miss Grande is the way we choose to respond, yes we have also got tough and our CTU is doing an amazing job, but to be so negative is not doing anyone any good other than pushing your own political agenda. It's nothing to do with liberals, it's nothing to do with republicans, it's to do with hate from a few people.



And the fact that the UK and USA are controlled by the right blows the stupid 'liberal' theory out of the water, in fact the U.K. Has never been attacked so much.

songanddanceman2 said: "Our countries are bombing the crap out of the Middle East on a daily basis, at some point that was going to create this kind of action.



This. 100% this.

"If you can differentiate between the KKK and Christians then you can do the same for Islamist Extremists and Muslims"

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Updated On: 12/19/19 at 07:01 PM

Can you imagine someone picking up a science text book and using that to justify the persecution of gay people, women, and to justify violent acts? I can't.

You yourself seem to be picking up a science book (or the Richard Dawkins bibliography) and using it to justify the persecution of every practicing Muslim. Even using phrases like "religions that must be wiped out" is absolutely unreal to me. Please re-evaluate.

Updated On: 6/4/17 at 07:06 PM

Left-wing logic: You can identify as whatever gender or being you want to, no one can tell you you're not a real woman! But not everyone can be a 'real' Muslim.



I mean, you seem to be trying to be deliberately offensive. Are you transphobic as well as Islamophobic? I don't get your point here at all.

TheatreFan4 said: " it's a well known fact that most home grown terrorists are radicalized later in life. You want to know what births them? ISIS Recruiters latching onto disdain for the Muslim faith which you are doing NOTHING to dispel. That's what breeds terrorism, not a religion."



It is all about religion.

The radical part is the upbringing, planting seeds in their minds that Allah is almighty and indoctrinate children in a way which says that they need to do whatever you think Allah wants, and therefore creating an alienated person. From there it's only a small step to think (later in life) you are doing good while you are actually doing something bad. This is per definition dangerous. Because of this indoctrination, a person becomes extremely vulnerable to manipulation and creates no sense of self. Responsibility is not present this way. Therefore all children must be taught a much wider worldview from the start.

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