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[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 10:58am

Sorry, Reg

When was it said that Queenie's powers are only when she inflicts the injury? That could just be the ultimate convenience of it, but maybe, it was always more than that.

Nan's soul was taken by Legba, so she may not have anything left to haunt with. And why be so worked up about ghosts this season when someone was impregnated by a ghost in the first season?

As much as I dislike Ryan Murphy, he has the artistic freedom to re-interpret ghosts just like vampires are re-interpretted every time someone uses them. If you don't want to accept this version of what a ghost is, don't watch. That's why I don't watch Twilight.

Updated On: 1/16/14 at 10:58 AM

[Broadwayboobs]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:01am

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:03am

That was my entire original point about Queenie. If anything that happens to her is, for lack of a better word, projected onto someone else then wouldn't she in essence be immortal? The parameters surrounding her power makes no sense.

Honestly, I don't really care that much to get into a debate about the idiocy of this show. Let's just say that you can have your opinion, I'll have mine and we'll leave it at that.

And to Reg, I'm not sure what I ever did to you to warrant such a remark.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:14am

Two things -

First, I'm very happy that my term "Frankentate" has survived. It makes me smile.

Second, this season has gone straight into the "Murphy Mess" that all his shows go into. After 5 episodes of a Ryan Murphy show he gets bored and basically says "Fvck it". And that's what's happening here. Like Clyde pointed out in that list, nothing makes sense anymore if you think about it for more than 10 seconds. And I'm still not going to give up on the fact that this show IS NOT HORROR. It's not scary and the more blood you add to it is not going to make it so.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:17am

I was just teasing, Clyde. You'd said "don't get me started" several times, so my response seemed an obvious thing to say.

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:21am

I think my reason for being so critical last night because I wasn't completely wasted while watching it like I usually am.

Jordan, you do make a good point about it not being horror. The closest thing they have is ghosts but when they act like people it negates the scare factor. It's not even really torture porn (which is was normally passes for horror these days). I'm curious to see which tropes they go with next season since they really blew their wad with ASYLUM. I mean where do you go after serial killer/slasher, Nazis, aliens, mutants, aversion therapy and Catholicism (I know I'm forgetting like 10 more things).

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:21am

Next season should star Judi Dench, Maggie Smith & Ian McKellen in AMERICAN HORROR STORY: NURSING HOME

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:22am

My bad, Reg. I was actually doing that as a running joke and then forgot I'd done it.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:23am

Every Ryan Murphy show goes downhill after the first season, starting with Popular, and this one more than others. It's like he gets too comfortable and cocky.

[ClydeBarrow]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:27am

Never forget.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:28am

This season is about as scary as an episode of "Dynasty."

But I have to say, even though they mostly use her to comic effect, when Kathy Bates turns it on, she can still scare the doodie out of me.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:36am

AHS has never been "horror". At BEST, it's been mildly suspenseful. But even it's best episode has never been scary.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:46am

I think that the show needs fresh meat, too. I love Jessica, Sarah, Evan, Frances, and sometimes even Lily, but the gimmick of them being in every season does get a bit stale.

I did think the Benadryl-as-"magic" part last night was funny Updated On: 1/16/14 at 11:46 AM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:54am

It made me laugh, too.

I guess since they don't want to scare us they're just going to make us laugh. Season 4 should have a laugh track.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 11:55am

Note about Queenie:
Not everything that happens to Queenie is projected onto someone else. She needs to be in the vicinity of them and focus on projecting it onto them.
From what I haved etermined, the greater the pain, the more she has to be looking at them. Note how to burn Myrtle's hand, she was around the corner but to shoot herself she crawled til he was in view. Explained well? No. Discerned from watching? Yes.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 12:04pm

Ryan Murphy doing a purposefully-comedic version of horror has proved funny in the past. Example: "I Know What You Did Last Spring Break".

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 2:52pm

I thought this season started out enjoyable and fun, but it has completely lost the plot. It's like nothing that happens from work week to another has any bearing on anything. Remember Kathy Bates sobbing and watching the Freedom Riders? It's nice to know that meant absolutely nothing since she's as gross and horrible and racist as ever. Last week's episode felt like filler but this week's just seems like it's taken off in yet another direction. I agree that virtually nothing makes sense in it, but I guess the jokes on us for ever expecting that it would.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 2:59pm

It does not help by having the breaks as they have done this season. When it's a roller coaster that doesn't stop til the end, it's better.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 3:03pm

Ryan Murphy did say in his EW interview today that we'll find out why she was crying when watching the Freedom Riders and the like.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 3:06pm

My own personal issue with this season (God, I hope I haven't typed this all here before) is that the concept of witches doesn't play on any of my fears. A murder house with ghosts? I have to open my shower curtain every night when I get home because I am absolutely certain there will be an albino with a knife waiting to kill me (thanks, Foul Play!). Asylum? I hate the idea of my freedom being taken away in any shape or form. Add to that my claustrophobia and the fear that I am always about two minutes away from absolute madness and forget it.

But witches? Eh.

There's a rumor that next year is AMERICAN HORROR STORY: CIRCUS. Bring back Pepper and Danny Huston as a Gacy-like clown!

Updated On: 1/16/14 at 03:06 PM

[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 3:08pm

^ Very much agree with your opinion on the witch-related season

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 3:09pm

I don't care particularly about the so-called rules (can Queenie do this, can a ghost do that?). But I find it hard to be really invested in these characters in this supposedly dangerous world when their deaths mean so little. I've honestly lost track of who's dead. Sometimes they come back; sometimes they don't. Their illnesses and injuries can just go away--unless they don't.

So the stakes aren't very high. And when Murphy has to give interviews saying "Oh, no, this time she's really dead . . ." Well, you can see the problem.

So a character gets shoved in a coffin and buried alive. If that happened on, say, "Girls," I'd pay attention to it. Here I just shrugged and thought "Eh, she'll be back. Or not."

[Wynbish]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 3:14pm

It is anti-climactic to bury alive a witch who brought herself back from being burned at the stake.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 3:22pm

"There's a rumor that next year is AMERICAN HORROR STORY: CIRCUS. Bring back Pepper and Danny Huston as a Gacy-like clown!"

Didn't Murphy already say they'll be continuing Coven next season?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 1/16/14 at 4:20pm

Wyn, I just saw that interview. It seems like a cop out on his part to say that people misunderstood it, when it was set up to look like she was finally moved by what she was seeing. Of course he'll explain it three episodes later or whatever, but any misinterpretation was sparked by how the show set it up.

I agree with Namo about the breaks killing momentum. On a semi-related note, when the hell did mid-season finales become a thing on tv?