Adults and mature teens only- no obnoxious, stupid people allowed- Page 10

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:30am

Aigoo,I did notice that once in a while, a very old thread will be bumped up and responded to. I was just showing concern for the buildup of threads and what damage if any, it could cause the site.

[vbplayer]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:33am

Maybe changing the name to "Off-Broadway" message board would help?

Edit: Just kidding.

Updated On: 2/18/06 at 01:33 AM

[koala808]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:36am

If a "grown up board" or serious topic board would help me from stumbling into a thread where a 14 year old poster is wishing she had a man in her bed or is otherwise trying to pick up posters in their 20's-30's, I'm all for it. Even if she's just kidding, I find it repulsive.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:37am

Eww, koala. What the hell have I missed?? But yes, exactly.

[liotte]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:46am

Where's the button now when I need it?

[theatrebabe]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:53am

Right. So this is just what we need to top off the night.

[vbplayer]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:53am

I am now an "adult board" advocate.

[CJR]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 2:09am

I will bet money that cokewhore is a sock puppet and one of the adult members... not one of the teens.

[vbplayer]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 2:19am

No, I think cokewhore is really a crack whore...

Updated On: 2/18/06 at 02:19 AM

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 2:24am

koala, I agree with you. I never want to see that, and especially don't want to be the object of such stuff.

I want to be rid of people who think making ridiculous comments as a fake person is funny.

[Kringas]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 2:38am

Wow. For a thread that had a great topic but jacked so quickly, I can't believe how well it's managed to turn itself around. I'm not sure if there's much to add here. I'm in agreement with pretty much everything said by iflit, namo and tiff (among others).

I'm an adult. I've been an adult for quite a while. I don't have children, nor do I want them. I don't particularly want to be around them. I don't care if you're the smartest twelve year old to walk the planet. I was a preternaturally smart twelve year old, too, and I now understand why adults didn't want to be around me.

I've wanted an adult board since I began posting here, but I'm still not sure how it would be possible, short of being a completely off-board, invite-only affair. I was thinking about this earlier tonight, and aside from having to fax a copy of your driver's license (which, of course, could be faked) I don't know how it could be done. And I'm not sure that it's a "serious discussion" board I want, as there plenty of times I'm not looking for serous discussion. I'm just looking for discussion with other adults.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 2:46am

Which I understand as a desire, but is not something I think is possible to create in a message board. The "adult board" would be a mix of things, with different people wanting different things (I would think one of the major ones would be looser standards on language and "adult situations") but I don't think it will work practically .

Message boards and websites about sex can't keep kids out, I think it is even less likely a Broadway board could.

Updated On: 2/18/06 at 02:46 AM

[CostumeMistress]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 3:30am

*shrugs*

I've come to the realization that the fact that I'm 21 and the fact that I'm a college student makes people on the OT board lose a lot of respect for me. At first I fought bitterly against the Student Board and tried to cry that I was a reallyreallysupermature young person, until I realized that the only thing that would earn me respect on this board would be to move up in years. The situation is no different in society or in the workforce or anywhere else - someone who is 21 just doesn't command a lot of respect. This fact certainly is not unique to the BWW board. Whether this is fair is absolutely debatable. However, I finally learned to stop whining and I think it would serve many teens well to do the same.

That being said...

What exactly is the objective of the Adults Board? I think that clarifying the objectives of this proposed board would go a long way towards ensuing its conception.

Updated On: 2/18/06 at 03:30 AM

[liotte]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 11:44am

CM, I think you have always been mature and articulate, despite your age. You make wonderful contributions to the boards.
That being said, I don't think it's a matter of respect that you are lacking because you are still a college student. It's more that the adults have more life experience and sometimes would rather talk to people their own age instead of someone who is still in college. You are probably more mature than a lot of the adults around here. Just sometimes, it's necessary for adults to hang out with other adults and the teens/young adults to hang out with each other. When I was a teen, I wouldn't want to be talking to people my parents' age. Even now (and sorry if this offends anyone), many of the adults on the board ARE my parents age, and I don't want to talk to them either. But they are great at giving advice and confort at times, so I understand the need for wanting opinions from older people as well. And I love chatting with the other adults on the board about all kinds of topics, serious or not.
Updated On: 2/18/06 at 11:44 AM

[jasonf]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 12:02pm

I really don't see why there's any argument about this, actually. If an adult board were to be created, you have the choice to go on it or not as an adult. If you're still a kid, sorry, but you don't have the right to go to it. You don't have the right to vote, you don't have the right to gamble, you don't have the right to drink - that's how society is set up. So why would any adult be AGAINST such a board? If you don't want to go to it, DON'T.

This isn't to devalue kids or teenagers, but I don't see why this is even a debate. If you're underage and feeling excluded, honestly, TOUGH. That's life. Everyone who CAN go to an adult board has experienced it at some point in their life. It's like in my school the teachers have a soda machine in our lounge. The kids always want to go in and get soda, but the fact is, it's THERE FOR THE ADULTS. Kids are NOT entitled to everything they want, so honestly, adults, why are we even arguing this?

I don't know, I just find it frustrating that adults need to defend themselves against kids in a matter like this -- when I was growing up (God, I sound old) I wouldn't even have QUESTIONED it!

[Jane2]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 12:03pm

I love to be silly and I'm proud of it. I work with mostly late teens and early twenties aged folks and we all get along fine. They tell me they don't notice an age difference (now I'm in trouble!) Anyway, my point is that no one should feel offended - when one is craving a serious, mature, no-nonsense discussion, there should be a place to go for it. I wish I could be home today to follow this discussion, but I hope someone brings this up to the mods. I'm interested to see their reactions.

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 12:15pm

Everyone wants a different thing from this:
some seem to want a place where kids won't be
some want a place where the discussion is more "serious"
others want a place to "hang out" with like minded people

All of these things are very different and the fact remains they would be very hard to determine on a message board.

How are people thinking they know most of the people here are or are not who they represent themselves as the "14 year old girl" or "12 year old boy" are many times another 50 year old man- WHO is the person I MOST don't want to be around.

Could it work? Maybe. Would the mysterious "original people" who were apparently so great and interesting, come back? Possibly.

I agree with Namo's contention that another level of filtering is a good thing, but I want a filtering of vileness and stupidity. Which I find in spades both on this board and in life from people of all ages.


JasonF- There are many reasons to be against an adult board and I find the insuation that ANY ADULT should automatically be in favor of it ridiculous.

[theatrebabe]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 12:42pm

It seems to me, if an adult board was started and it was called just that "Adult Board", it would be the same thing as the OT board. Just without the kids.

But that is what some people want, right? Just the same thing without kids? Different people want so many different things, like pengers said. It's impossible to find a solution to please everyone.

And I hate to pull out this card here, but it is just a message board. Anytime you want, if the kids are annoying you, go talk with adults.

[jasonf]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:17pm

Here's my thing - I personally don't mind the kids and teens if their discussion is intelligent. It IS the obnoxious and idiotic posts that bother me.

If you want to interact with the kids and teens, there are other boards available for that. What exactly is gained by being AGAINST the adult only board, from an adult perspective? I don't see why an adult would want to censor other adults from having adult conversations.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:18pm

Pengy wrote:

I agree with Namo's contention that another level of filtering is a good thing, but I want a filtering of vileness and stupidity. Which I find in spades both on this board and in life from people of all ages.

I love this idea! Can someone work on developing a "vileness and stupidity" filter than we can carry around, like an iPod or a cell phone (or perhaps as a cell phone feature that you pay an extra $.99 for per month).

It would also be great if once this filter indicates high levels of vileness and stupidity, the user can aim at the culprit and press "stun." No pain would be involved, just freezing the vile and stupid person long enough for the user to get away.

I know we all have "internal VAS filters," but it just takes so darned long for them to kick in sometimes, you know?

Alas, I am not qualified to actually create such a device, but I volunteer to test the beta version!

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:23pm

I think many adults simply dislike the idea of segregation simply on the basis of age.

I am not "against the idea" but I think it is impractical and will cause more animosity while not necessarily addressing the concerns.

What is an "adult conversation"? I know that I have a very different idea of what that is than some other "adults."

I like the idea of a filtering system, but I have severe reservations with the notion that an "age based" system would be necessary or apropriate. As has been shown in the other thread, some "adults" want to use this place to be nasty, or to post porn. Why the hell would I want this site to provide that? If I want to look at porn, I will go look at porn.



Miss Pennywise: That was hilarious, I think we can work out a plan to make one. You shall have full credit for the idea though.

Updated On: 2/18/06 at 01:23 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:30pm

"And I hate to pull out this card here, but it is just a message board. Anytime you want, if the kids are annoying you, go talk with adults."

And I would guess that that's exactly what has happened with a number of the adults who used to post here. I bet they've gone elsewhere. Maybe if there were an "elsewhere" here at BWW, they'd still be here too. Maybe not.

The OT board can't possibly provide such a "go there" respite because the threads that might be interesting to people who aren't interested in almost non-stop frivolity and youthful "exuberence" (which some might think "nonsense") may not have the time nor the inclination to wade through the threads that are created and goosed to the top with more frequency. Perhaps that's just the evolution of the board, and more grown ups will move on to other places on the net. That's fine, a board's audience is an organic thing.

Personally, I still hold out the fact that if somebody being a belter's belter or this Broadway star or that Broadway star "rocking" or having a place for fans/stalkers to express their <3 isn't On Topic, I do not know what is.

And there are certainly more than a handful of grown up posters who like to be adult icons for the younger set, it gives them a role and so they can enjoy the OT board with the toe hair crowd. That's fine, too.

[DramaDork925]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:30pm

Miss Pennywise- That little cellphone feature would be fantastic to have at school... you never know, I might actually LEARN something if I had a feature to get rid of... well... everyone.

[jasonf]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:35pm

smartpenguin -- I think I'm arguing for the adult board in theory because I realize in reality it would NEVER work the way we would want it to. Of course I'm against segregation in most places, but there's a REASON kids aren't allowed to gamble or drink -- what's wrong with having an area for JUST adults on the net? Again, this is only theoretical really, because while we adults can refrain from jumping on the student board to try to intellectualize it (I don't think I've ever even bothered to LOOK at the board), I doubt that without filters kids and teens who post those inane messages would be able to, nor want to, restrain themselves from going on the adult board.

And by "adult" conversation - I'm not talking pornography - just INTELLIGENT conversations that don't get threadjacked because a topic isn't about Wicked or Rent. The other requirement would have to be SOME sense of correct grammar and spelling. Everyone makes mistakes, but the intentional spelling and grammatical errors are PAINFUL.

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 2/18/06 at 1:39pm

"And by "adult" conversation - I'm not talking pornography - just INTELLIGENT conversations that don't get threadjacked because a topic isn't about Wicked or Rent. The other requirement would have to be SOME sense of correct grammar and spelling. Everyone makes mistakes, but the intentional spelling and grammatical errors are PAINFUL."


Hmmm....perhaps instead of an age requirement we require an essay for entrance.