American Horror Story: Hotel — Page 6

Apropos of nothing, Max Greenfield reads so gay to me even when he's not playing gay.

The setting is great and the possibilities seem endless but like any successful program it needs a good script. The first episode was not frightening in any way rather a bunch of mumbo jumbo. The actor playing the detective is also weak and his wife is wasted. Bates should have played the detective as a Lesbian with many secrets.

Remember that in AMERICAN HORROR STORY the rule is you are not dead dead until the writers decide they have nothing else to use you for OR an actor's period of availability/willingness to commit expires. So I trust we have not seen the last of Max Greenfield but maybe we have! Or maybe we haven't! The rule of characters dying in the show is that there are no rules, "expect the unexpected"!

SmoothLover said: " The setting is great and the possibilities seem endless but like any successful program it needs a good script. The first episode was not frightening in any way rather a bunch of mumbo jumbo. The actor playing the detective is also weak and his wife is wasted. Bates should have played the detective as a Lesbian with many secrets.

"Bates seems to be playing her character from last year, except without a beard... Being stuck having to clean up the messes all out of some weird devotion for a troubled son.

I think Wes Bentley has talent--but his strength is playing emotionally wounded guys--I guess his character is meant to be, but they direct him to be a cliched film noir cop (seriously, it's hard to know that this year is meant to be set in 2015.)

I think one big issue with the series is... as wacky and sometimes nonsensical as season one was, it sorta seemed to exist in the real world--at least initially (and when outside of the house.) Asylum too did in a way since it made some sort of sense why people were trapped in the crazy asylum, and the outside world seemed relatively relatable. Since Coven that has become less and less true--and this year really shows that. Murphy/Falchuk are too obsessed with "crazy" concepts from the get go. It makes no sense why the Swedish girls didn't try to leave the hotel (yeah, they half heartedly tried to give some explanation, but...) I think the creators feel they explained why Bentley's character decided to check into this hotel (the killer harassing him mentioned it, he thinks he saw his son,) but it was very poorly handled and made no sense... It makes little sense that he would leave his family anyway (they obviously were being threatened as much as he was,) but if we buy into that, unless the killer had said something like "Unless you stay at this stupid hotel nobody stays at, I will kill your family," the execution to why he went there was so half hearted that it just makes the character look lame. But this is par for course with recent seasons...

Apparently in one interview Murphy did mention the orgy on Sense8--if this Gaga orgy was meant to compete with that it failed (does basic cable allow rape scenes to be more explicit than orgy scenes?)

"So I trust we have not seen the last of Max Greenfield but maybe we have! Or maybe we haven't! The rule of characters dying in the show is that there are no rules, "expect the unexpected"!"

Maybe it's just nostalgia (ha,) but pre Coven they at least seemed to give some sort of explanation as to why a character came back. After that, all rules went out the door (as one critic wrote, it's hard to care when there are zero stakes--it's like what happened to daytime soaps in the 90s when the "Back from the dead" shock became not something a soap would use every five years, but that seemed to constantly happen.)

Phyllis Rogers Stone said: "(does basic cable allow rape scenes to be more explicit than orgy scenes?)

I wondered that, too, after watching this episode.

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It seemed... odd. And rather tame (even with the posing of a few of the actors, there was little same sex action between the women or the men and Gaga, probably for reasons of celebrity, left her g-string on the entire time.)

Murphy said recently he casts men that fit his "sexual prototype."

They are all his sexual prototype. That's how smart RyRy is.

I am assuming that Max will come back as Ghost or a Vampire since the hotel is full of them.

Chloe is I am spelling her name right is wasting her talent as well.

The show is not frightening because the script and characters are so weak. The actors look blank faced like they don't know what they are doing or how they fit into the story.

I thought the show would take on more of an old Hollywood glamor with tones of Hitchcock.

I had the same feeling about Bates, that her role is similar to last years character. I wish she was playing a Miss Marple type.

Chloe is I am spelling her name right is wasting her talent as well.

Well, let today be the day I'm actually the one to defend this nonesense, but it's only the first episode. It's not like that is going to be her only appearance. There are people in the main credited cast who weren't even inthe first episode.

Did people on here not like Lange? I thought she always made her, sometimes awful material, great to watch. Even when given the worst writing, she seemed to be in on the joke (as much as one can be when the writers think they are crafting brilliance.)

I really loved Lange in Asylum, but I felt like she phoned it in during Coven and Freak Show especially. She played the same role 4 times with different accents. Entertaining to be sure, but tiresome after a while.