Can the adults please smoke? — Page 514
#12827
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:14am
KMF: I'll keep all that in mind the next time I have to go through that process... My problem is that I go through the panic leading into it. Then, I go onto auto-pilot. Apparently, auto-pilot is good, because the nerves get numb, and whatever comes out of my mouth tends to work well for me.
Or I'll take a lesson or two from our own KMF....
Or I'll take a lesson or two from our own KMF....
#12828
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:14am
On another note....
Anyone seen Rath this morning?
Anyone seen Rath this morning?
Thank you so much Fair. You are such a "Bewitching" HUSSY! -(DAME 12/2)
#12829
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:16am
Hi guys! You know, all of this is really good advice...especially for inexperienced interviewers like me! (not that I'd EVER consider dressing casually for an interview.) It's really good to hear what the person on the other side of the desk expects as a baseline...as well as what is discounted. You should start a thread on the subject!
#12830
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:18am
cookie - a bit of nervous energy can be a good thing. I have to give large presentations at least once a week - and I STILL get butterflies before I go 'on'. But it helps me focus on the job I have to do - and the way I want to be perceived. So far so good, I guess...
K- I'm so glad to see you joining this particular 'conversation' - I was going to PM you to tell you to come share your expertise.
Fair - she said earlier that she had an all day seminar.
K- I'm so glad to see you joining this particular 'conversation' - I was going to PM you to tell you to come share your expertise.
Fair - she said earlier that she had an all day seminar.
"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."
#12831
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:19am
but Rath said she'd be back later on!
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."
Conan O'Brien
#12832
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:21am
Ah!
Thanks Addie.
Good morning Pip
Thanks Addie.
Good morning Pip
Thank you so much Fair. You are such a "Bewitching" HUSSY! -(DAME 12/2)
#12833
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:22am
hey -- for anyone in the NY area -- I would be more than happy to set some time up to help you out and share some "other side of the table" ideas and even do mock interviews....I mean that.
One thing on job hunts -- in my opinion, try NOT to get too many opinions on resumes...they are important, but HR folks have differnt opinions on style, etc -- most important is focus on content...NEVER, EVER lie or exagerate and what always gets put to the top of list -- don't just tell me WHAT you did, tell me how it made the company better -- did it save money and how much...is there a statisitc that supports the effort put in...
One thing on job hunts -- in my opinion, try NOT to get too many opinions on resumes...they are important, but HR folks have differnt opinions on style, etc -- most important is focus on content...NEVER, EVER lie or exagerate and what always gets put to the top of list -- don't just tell me WHAT you did, tell me how it made the company better -- did it save money and how much...is there a statisitc that supports the effort put in...
"Sir K, the Viscount of Uppity-shire...." -- kissmycookie
#12834
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:22am
Good morning! How's everyone doing today?
#12835
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:25am
Hi Pip!
"Sir K, the Viscount of Uppity-shire...." -- kissmycookie
#12836
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:26am
rainy and gloomy here in NY, Pip... How are you?
#12837
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:26am
Good morning Pip! Things are well here in my neck of the woods. How about you?
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."
Conan O'Brien
#12838
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:29am
Morning, Pip.
All this talk of interviewing is fascinating, as it has to do with a world that I've chosen not to participate in. Amazing the intricacies and parameters that need to be considered.
It would be interesting to see how the ideologies of the interview process compare to an audition situation.
All this talk of interviewing is fascinating, as it has to do with a world that I've chosen not to participate in. Amazing the intricacies and parameters that need to be considered.
It would be interesting to see how the ideologies of the interview process compare to an audition situation.
#12839
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:29am
I'm just fine, thanks! Pretty nice day here...sun's shining right now. Nice autumn day.
#12840
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:30am
hey there....i need to escape the rest of the boards....
#12841
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:32am
Deep cleansing breath, glitz....
Hi DG!
Hi DG!
#12842
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:37am
i'm fine....
#12843
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:42am
DG -- having performed earlier in my life there are some strong parallels and some direct crosses....interviewing for a job, you certainly need to be "on" and "perform" to some extent...but I try to look past that and really want to get to the core of the person and understand what makes them "tick" -- what environment do the excell in and see how it matches my company culture...auditioning for a part, you sing a particular piece to convey character and read as the character -- I don't want that for an interview
The owrst interviewers are those that lead the candidate, yet it happens so often...they set themselves up to hear what they want and then are disappointed when the "true colors" of the candidate show....
I try to get the person comfortable and be me (for those of you who met me, you should know what I mean) -- but my questions never are leading and I force the candidate to answer -- I am not afraid of silence...
OK, I am beginning to babble....I'll stop before this gets to be blah, blah blah
The owrst interviewers are those that lead the candidate, yet it happens so often...they set themselves up to hear what they want and then are disappointed when the "true colors" of the candidate show....
I try to get the person comfortable and be me (for those of you who met me, you should know what I mean) -- but my questions never are leading and I force the candidate to answer -- I am not afraid of silence...
OK, I am beginning to babble....I'll stop before this gets to be blah, blah blah
"Sir K, the Viscount of Uppity-shire...." -- kissmycookie
#12844
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:44am
have a cream puff
#12845
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:45am
mmmm puffs (droollll)
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen."
Conan O'Brien
#12846
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:47am
Hi all....soooo busy today..ugh. *runs back to work*
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
#12847
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:48am
No, don't quit! This is great! I've only been to about a dozen interviews, but you cna tell who's good at it and who isn't! I went to one interview where the guy did all the talking! I just nodded once in awhile...and I didn't get the job! The last guy, the one who hired me, just sat back and asked questions that started with "describe this" or "explain how". I talked, he listened. I felt like I really got a chance to express what I could bring to the table and it also told me a lot about him.
#12848
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:53am
K, Pip - exactly!
I actually chose the company where I currently work because I was so impressed with the way that the head of the company conducted the interview. I was weighing two offers at the time, and that tipped the scales for me.
I have my favorite questions that I like to ask once the person is comfortable and a dialogue has been established. They're not trick questions - I don't believe that does any good - but they're definitely questions that the person won't expect to be asked. I learn alot about the candidate by the way they answer the question, or handle their approach to the questions.
It's fascinating to me.
K - your offer is such a valuable one!
I actually chose the company where I currently work because I was so impressed with the way that the head of the company conducted the interview. I was weighing two offers at the time, and that tipped the scales for me.
I have my favorite questions that I like to ask once the person is comfortable and a dialogue has been established. They're not trick questions - I don't believe that does any good - but they're definitely questions that the person won't expect to be asked. I learn alot about the candidate by the way they answer the question, or handle their approach to the questions.
It's fascinating to me.
K - your offer is such a valuable one!
"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."
#12849
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:56am
Someone get me out of here...out of this business...help !!! *runs back to work*
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
#12850
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:59am
for the first time I don't feel like I'm goofing off at BWW during work hours.
Because I'm in the middle of hiring and interviewing - this discussion is very ON TOPIC!
Because I'm in the middle of hiring and interviewing - this discussion is very ON TOPIC!
"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."
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