binau said: "Thank you. Ok I agree with you all then, that he should not have been killed but I agree you don’t have to cry about it. For what it’s worth, I would likely disagree with most of the things he says because he is a conservative Christian. I just think we have to deal with it through the same mechanisms he was using - debate - not violence- or we will descend into anarchy. Even if the right are ultimate hypocrites, the point is we are not meant to be that. We are not meant to decendinto that."
I answered your question and you didn't answer mine and refuse to condemn his views on wanting gays stoned to death.
ACL2006 yes, I am gay of course I’d condemn strongly anyone that says gay people should be stoned to death.
I also think trans people should be respected, allowed to transition and live a free life despite some here suggesting I think otherwise.
binau said: "All I want you to do is agree on one basic principle: that Charlie Kirk should not have been subjected to violence, no matter what you think of his words or politics. The fact that you can’t say this is telling. If you won’t, it suggests you do see violence as a legitimate tool of political suppression — and that’s the very definition of terrorism. That’s what makes this moment so shocking.
Nope and I hope it eats you up inside :) Oh, and stop saying "we", your opinion doesn't matter towards America. Get a life. Get a job. Get one friend. Jesus.
Sutton Ross said: "binau said: "All I want you to do is agree on one basic principle: that Charlie Kirk should not have been subjected to violence, no matter what you think of his words or politics. The fact that you can’t say this is telling. If you won’t, it suggests you do see violence as a legitimate tool of political suppression — and that’s the very definition of terrorism. That’s what makes this moment so shocking.
Nope and I hope it eats you up inside :) Oh, and stop saying "we", your opinion doesn't matter towards America. Get a life. Get a job. Get one friend. Jesus."
Sutton you support terrorism. Thank you for showing us who you really are.
Bwaygurl2 said: "The Left: famous for abusing women and killing gay people. Seb is living on another planet. What an eccentric fool, with crappy taste to boot."
Good intentions can be evil. We see what is happening in western cities where islam is already the majority, in municipal councils, etc. Voted in by the left. And what their rules for gay people are. And the predictions for 30 years from now. The UK is already lost.
ACL2006 said: " then says if don't agree with them, he's going to label us a terrorists? WTF?!?!."
Anyone who does not condemn this literal massacre is a terrorist. No matter what your political and desired beliefs are.
That is the whole point of this discussion. Disapproving murder and wanting punishment for the killer is the only right side of history here. Do you understand?
More updates from BBC
Bullet casing inscriptions give possible clue to motivepublished at 16:02
16:02Mike Wendling
BBC News
The markings on the bullets described by authorities indicate that the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was steeped in online culture and included references to the Antifa , or the anti-fascist, movement.
A fired shell casing was inscribed with “notices bulges OwO what’s this?” - a reference to a “copypasta” - a piece of text that is repeated over and over again, often to troll people online.
Authorities say one unfired casing had the words “Hey fascist! Catch!” and three down arrows - a common symbol used to represent the anti-fascist movement.
A second casing had the lyrics to a song “Bella Ciao” inscribed on it. The song honours WWII-era partisans of the Italian resistance who fought Nazi Germany.
The third unfired casing was inscribed with the words “If you read this, you are gay lmao” - again an apparent reference to online trolling humour.
Antifa is a loose collection of far-left activists who have been active in the US over the last decade, at street protests and other events.
They often oppose Trump's policies and far-right groups.
binau said: "ACL2006 yes, I am gay of course I’d condemn strongly anyone that says gay people should be stoned to death.
I also think trans people should be respected, allowed to transition and live a free life despite some here suggesting I think otherwise."
WOW! I found one! A gay MAGA!!
binau said: "Sutton Ross said: "binau said: "All I want you to do is agree on one basic principle: that Charlie Kirk should not have been subjected to violence, no matter what you think of his words or politics. The fact that you can’t say this is telling. If you won’t, it suggests you do see violence as a legitimate tool of political suppression — and that’s the very definition of terrorism. That’s what makes this moment so shocking.
Nope and I hope it eats you up inside :) Oh, and stop saying "we", your opinion doesn't matter towards America. Get a life. Get a job. Get one friend. Jesus."
Sutton you support terrorism. Thank you for showing us who you really are."
And you support a President who's a convicted felon, has been impeached twice, cheated on all three of his wives, had sex with a pornstar, opposes gay rights....
Im not a ‘gay MAGA’ that’s just rude. I would consider myself to align more with someone like Bill Maher.
Bwaygurl2 said: "Welp. Turns out the assassin was a conservative dude named Tyler Robinson. Political violence from another Right Wing terrorist."
Can you stop lying please? Thank you. He was a radicalized leftist, according to his father and friends, hopefully this will lead to a worldwide discussion about leftist-radicalization by universities. He even had written left-wing slogans on the bullets he used to kill Kirk. Such as "Hey fascist, catch!" and "Bella Ciao", a popular Italian anti-fascist song.
ACL2006 said:
And you support a President who's a convicted felon, has been impeached twice, cheated on all three of his wives, had sex with a pornstar, opposes gay rights...."
Shhh....Aussie MAGAt doesn't believe any of that is true, of course. He honestly explains away all of Charlie's words or the Pedophile you mentioned. They will never admit they are the actual terrorists. Hilarious and sad :(
binau said: "Im not a ‘gay MAGA’ that’s just rude. I would consider myself to align more with someone like Bill Maher."
Honey, you support him and his actions. You're MAGA!
What do I apparently support about him and what actions do I support? are you sure you’re thinking of me?
ACL2006 said: "Honey, you support him and his actions. You're MAGA!"
In any case, not fully condemning the killing at this point is not great.
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Seb28 said: "Bwaygurl2 said: "Welp. Turns out the assassin was a conservative dude named Tyler Robinson. Political violence from another Right Wing terrorist."
Can you stop lying please? Thank you. He was a radicalized leftist, according to his father and friends, hopefully this will lead to a worldwide discussion about leftist-radicalization by universities. He even had written left-wing slogans on the bullets he used to kill Kirk. Such as "Hey fascist, catch!" and "Bella Ciao", a popular Italian anti-fascist song."
I know the Right will try and gaslight us into believing he's Left, but he's not. Yet another Right Wing terrorist, just like the majority of political violence. You said you would apologize but if course you won't. I won't be engaging with you anymore, because you are the moral equivalent of dog crap on a shoe. Have fun coping and seething while Jamie Lloyd stays booked and busy, you white supremacist.
Honey, you support him and his actions. You're MAGA!
Bwaygurl what definitions are you using to call him right wing? The ideological description would be someone who is left wing. Although given the gun and skill involved I would not be surprised if he did have some kind of experience in right wing gun culture. However, from a pure political ideology the evidence suggests his belief system would be aligned in meaning to what most people would describe as left wing (antifa etc)
His parents were both Republican, had a conservative upbringing and never voted.
Tyler Robinson history
Ok but people aren’t born conservative haha. The current information appears to be that he holds extreme left wing views that he learned from online. Does saying that Charlie Kirk is hateful and explicitly supporting anti-fascism sound like a right wing terrorist to you?
I do think it’s possible that he might have had access or experience to guns from having republican parents, which is interesting though. The interaction of extreme far left ideology with extreme right wing gun laws and attitudes. A recipe to disaster! It is making Charlie Kirk’s death seem even more ironic to me.
And in 2017 dressed up as Trump for a Halloween party.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/charlie-kirks-shooter-tyler-robinson-wore-costume-of-trump-for-halloween-what-his-social-media-posts-reveal/articleshow/123855059.cms
What matters is what is in his mind right now. If anyone is trying to suggest that his attitudes as ‘right wing’ because of his parents or because he wore a trump costume I think what is really happening is there is a mild attempt at gaslighting so the ‘left’ can deflect blame. But everyone can see what is happening here. This approach won’t hold up to intellectual scrutiny what matters is what was in his mind, what his actual beliefs were. That is what ideology is.
ACL2006 said: "His parents were both Republican, had a conservative upbringing and never voted.
The thing about MAGAts is they can never/will never be wrong in their mind. They don't apologize. They say crap like "what matters is" assuming that what matters to them should always matter to you. They are garbage. There is only three on here though, so that's promising. They have no lives, jobs, friends, or family so it's hard to get them off this website because they think they actually belong here. Im glad this happened, exposing Aussie MAGA as a hateful, truly dumb person who wants so badly to be American. Lolz.
At a rally last night for Kirk, Neo-Nazi chants broke out saying "white man, fight back!".
https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/piKJwNAJeF
Sutton, I’m sorry to say but that post truly exposed your lack of intelligence. Because it doesn’t appear you even understand what ideology actually is. I know because I disagree with them a lot of people ‘hate’ me here. However, I at least can respect some people here intellectually. I really don’t want to waste my time with you. You just don’t get it lol. And you hide your lack of ideas and intelligence with personal slanders because you don’t have anything to say.
You are not operating on the same intellectual level as others here, and you’d be better off letting them defend your cause while you watch, quietly, from the sidelines.
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