Did the loving, peaceful 'left' just assassinate Charlie Kirk?- Page 2

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 9:23pm

Zeppie2022 said: ""Yet not one word of sympathy for the victim's wife and the two young children who lost their father."

And what prevented YOU from posting "one word of sympathy for the victim's wife and the two young children who lost their father"?  Where 's your compassion?  Huh?
 

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 9:26pm

Also, to answer the question of this thread title.. we don't know. We have no idea. All we have to go on is "a hooded figure" according to the latest report I saw. Seems like a pretty shaky conclusion you have jumped to, b.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 9:26pm

Sutton Ross said: "Those witchesreally worked overtime in the past two days, thanks Etsy!"

What the hell are you talking about? 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 9:33pm

This man was always reasonable and civilized, presenting the facts and supporting them with well substantiated arguments. He listened to his debating partner's points and reiterated them politely in every debate. No one could ever catch him being rude or untruthful.

“We have more single women in their early 30’s that are the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, and lonely in America’s history because there’s a biological clock that’s going off and they realize that they’re not going to be able to have kids, that they’re not as desirable in the dating market or in the dating pool and so they start to lash out on the rest of society by voting democrat.”

“Young women who voted for Kamala Harris want careerism, consumerism and loneliness," while "Trump voters, young men, they want family, children and legacy."

"You are not in charge once you get married ladies, submit to your husband"

Kirk called upon women to abandon careers and education to “submit to a godly man” and raise “more children than you can afford.” 

In an extensive monologue, Kirk blamed birth control for making “young ladies” “angry and bitter. We basically told a great generation of young women’ don’t get married, don’t have kids, go get a corporate job, and it’s created mass political hysteria. And then in their early 30s they get really upset because they say, ‘you know, the boys don’t want to date me anymore,’ because they’re not at their prime and people get mad when I say that — well, it’s just true.”

"It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment".

Im glad you understood that Char, sometimes you just gotta take one for the team!

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 9:45pm

"And what prevented YOU from posting "one word of sympathy for the victim's wife and the two young children who lost their father"?  Where 's your compassion?  Huh?"

Real simple. I had to take a work call (IT) first. I will now say thoughts and prayers for this family who lost a husband and father. Your turn -lol

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/10/25 at 10:27pm

Zeppie2022 said: ""And what prevented YOU from posting "one word of sympathy for the victim's wife and the two young children who lost their father"? Where's your compassion? Huh?"

Real simple. I had to take a work call (IT) first. I will now say thoughts and prayers for this family who lost a husband and father. Your turn -lol"

Who are you talking to? Learn to use the quote button. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 1:28am

In 2016, I warned people here that if you voted for Hillary instead of Bernie that Trump would win. He did. In 2024, I warned people here that Trump was going to win because you don't know how to be reasonable. He did. 

I'm sick of warning you - you've destroyed your country and you deserve everything that is coming to you and more (except violence, no one deserves that obviously). 

The left used to be the political spectrum of truth, equality, freedom of expression and dignity. Now, thanks to far left extremists that have hijacked the movement it's the party of lies, misinformation, racism, sexism, censorship and violence. 

How does it feel to have everything being taken from you? Feel good, huh? hahahahahaha

Updated On: 9/11/25 at 01:28 AM

[Seb28]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 3:48am

kdogg36 said: "I don't give a flying **** about the lives of MAGA garbage. Too bad, so sad."

Bwaygurl2, do you think this is radical-left or center-left?

Updated On: 9/11/25 at 03:48 AM

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 7:41am

binau said: "In 2016, I warned people here that if you voted for Hillary instead of Bernie that Trump would win. He did. In 2024, I warned people here that Trump was going to win because you don't know how to be reasonable. He did.

I'm sick of warning you - you've destroyed your country and you deserve everything that is coming to you and more (except violence, no one deserves that obviously).

The left used to be the political spectrum of truth, equality, freedom of expression and dignity. Now, thanks to far left extremists that have hijacked the movement it's the party of lies, misinformation, racism, sexism, censorship and violence.

How does it feel to have everything being taken from you? Feel good, huh? hahahahahaha"

Hag, you don’t even live in this country. You’ve really turned into the most pathetic troll. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 7:46am

I don’t think you fully appreciate how powerful and influential the US is across the English speaking world. What you do in your country eventually gets imported elsewhere. But do I ever get a say in that? No. I have to accept what comes to me through the decisions and dialogue that are made elsewhere. I would put to you that you would stereotype trump supporters are insular uncultured Americans who have never travelled and have little global awareness (correct if wrong), and that you don’t see the irony that by not recognising the impact you have on others you are equally guilty of this. Maybe even more frustratingly so if you pretend otherwise. 

Updated On: 9/11/25 at 07:46 AM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 7:50am

If only MAGAs were this enraged over the hundreds of school shootings that have happened over the past 20 years.

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 8:33am

ACL2006 said: "If only MAGAs were this enraged over the hundreds of school shootings that have happened over the past 20 years."

One of which happened within literal moments of Kirk’s shooting.

Maybe binau should be an American, given how much they constantly blame other people and mansplain how “the radical Left” destroyed the country. Our Dear Leader would love another strident buffoon on his team.

[binau]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 9:17am

I find American gun culture and school shooting abhorrent, and I accept there is always probably a little bit of hypocrisy with these people. However, I think we also need to recognise that this wasn’t just a random violent attack - it was most likely political violence, it’s an attack on free speech and goes against the very principles of democracy in the English speaking world. Additionally, Charlie Kirk is the most important and well known leader of the right wing youth movement. He isn’t just a random MAGA. This is significant. There were over 500,000 views at the announcement of his death on BBC. This is a very high number and typically only seen for very significant events - I’m not sure of the Russia invasion even has that much on its initial announcement. 

To suggest it’s just due to ‘guns’ is an oversimplification of the significant of the issue at stake here. 

The problem with freedom of speech that the left seeks to have struggled with over the past 5 years is that it literally means you have to protect the right of people to speak of people you disagree with. That’s all it is. It’s not about allowing speech you agree with because no one has a problem with speech they agree with. 

Through good intentions of preventing ‘misinformation’ and ‘hate speech’ the left have tried to censor the culture and it has backfired big time, no more than for themselves who don’t have the correction mechanisms to go off the deep end leading to the eventual defeat. 

And meanwhile also committing misinformation, such as the myth snopes has debunked around trump here, which the democrats kept repeating but anyone who just watches the video first hand knows it was an extremely disingenuous take. 
 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

It’s not about ‘but they do X’ which is much worse. As soon as you start to betray your very own liberal principles of the truth, freedom of speech etc. it’s going to be self destructive for a movement that is predicated based on these values. 
 

Some of this misinformation and fear mongering too - previously a trait only of the right - claiming trump is a Nazi etc. has created a culture where you have terrorist attitudes masquerading as progressive values. To be happy someone died for speaking freely, to want politicians dead, to bomb teslas etc. is not what first world English speaking countries are about. It’s the opposite of our values. 

Unfortunately, you have been led the wrong way and are suffering as a result. I was hoping Gavin Newsom would be a good leader to stop this but after this behaviour I think it’s too late now and my prediction is you will have a JD Vance presidency in 2028 now. 

You can’t see it, but this extremely inflexible ideological craziness just. Doesn’t. Work. It’s completely out of touch with every day people who vote. You can’t call everyone racists, sexists, nazis, idiots because they disagree with your ideas - including and especially the people who would normally vote your way - and think you can then say ‘but hey guys vote for me’. Why would anyone do that?

Updated On: 9/11/25 at 09:17 AM

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 9:20am

binau said: “I’m sick of warning you”
 

Then stfu girl!

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 9:36am

But Kirk was openly racist, homophobic and repeatedly ran on the issue of trans people shouldn't exist. This is why half of the country feels we shouldn't be mourning Kirk and having our flags lowered for him.

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 10:10am

Some analyses I've seen floating around around that I thought I'd share here: 

 

Brian Allen

@allenanalysis

🚨 Something doesn’t add up. 

 

Everything we know so far points to Charlie Kirk’s assassin being a trained professional, not some unhinged amateur with a grudge.

 

Let’s break this down:

 

— One shot. One kill. From hundreds of yards away. That’s sniper-level precision.

— No attempt to spray bullets or take out multiple targets. No chaos. Just the hit.

— The shooter fled immediately after confirming impact. No showboating. No manifesto. Just extraction.

— Evaded law enforcement on-site—local and federal. That takes planning. Skill. Training.

 

If this were some lone nut or keyboard radical, we’d be seeing sloppier evidence trails. But this was surgical.

 

This wasn’t rage. It was a mission."

 

Ian Smith, Sr.

@iansmithfitness

There is absolutely no doubt that Charlie Kirk killed by an intelligence grade assassin. 

 

This was not a “crazy leftist” or some random civilian. 

 

A well placed shot from 200 yards out, down angle from a rooftop, directly in the neck.

 

Precision like that doesn’t come from a protester with a grudge, it comes from someone who’s drilled this a thousand times under military glass.

 

Whoever is behind it, this was a highly skilled marksman who had logistics, support, and funding, with a well-executed retreat plan. 

 

Absolutely nothing feels right about this."

I am also learning that many in the extreme Right fringe hated Kirk. There was a big beef between him and fellow provacteur Nick Fuentes. 

And I hate to say this, I'm not usually a conspiracy person, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Trump got his buddy Putin to orchestrate this assassination to get his relationship with Epstein out of the news cycle. 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 10:41am

Binau, if we apply your logic to 2016, then Hillary was in fact the right choice. Bernie is MUCH further to the left than Hillary ever was or is… if anything, she is exactly what you seem to be calling for. A right-leaning centrist. I'm confused. Some consistency, please.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 10:50am

Bwaygurl2 said: 
I am also learning that many in the extreme Right fringe hated Kirk. There was a big beef between him and fellow provacteur Nick Fuentes.

And I hate to say this, I'm not usually a conspiracy person, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Trump got his buddy Putin to orchestrate this assassination to get his relationship with Epstein out of the news cycle."

Highly doubtful since Dumpster announced this morning that Kirk will get the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 10:55am

That's just a performative act in his effort to portray Kirk as a martyr. You don't really expect us to believe he actually gives a sh!t about him one way or the other. Same way as his "prayers" are fake, so is the medal of freedom.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 10:58am

binau said: "II'm sick of warning you - you've destroyed your country and you deserve everything that is coming to you and more .
 

How does it feel to have everything being taken from you? Feel good, huh? hahahahahaha"

During last year's U.S. Presidential election cycle, I forced you to FINALLY admit that you are not a U.S. citizen.  But to the best of my knowledge, you've never owned up to which country you are a citizen of.  That's scary.  I for one don't need to be lectured by a NON-U.S. CITIZEN TROLL on how i should think or how my country should conduct its affairs.  Enough of your long-winded, meandering, senseless, repulsive, crazy posts.  Be gone.  hahahahaha

Updated On: 9/11/25 at 10:58 AM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 11:07am

Jay Lerner-Z said: "That's just a performative act in his effort to portray Kirk as a martyr. You don't really expect us to believe he actually gives a sh!t about him one way or the other. Same way as his "prayers" are fake, so is the medal of freedom."

Whether you liked him or not, Kirk was key in getting young voters to vote for Dumpster. He helped sway the young , racist voters away from voting for Independent or not at all. Those voters were never voting for Harris, anyway.

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 11:16am

Binau, your consistent employment of logic fallacies is very frustrating. Unfortunately, you've employed so many, and at such a rapid pace, that it's overwhelmingly difficult to respond to all of them at this late stage in the thread.

A few "highlights", however, include:

The SNOPES article you mention includes a note from the Editor stating, "This fact check aimed to confirm what Trump actually said, not whether what he said was true or false."

Based on what Trump actually said, he did, in fact, lump Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists who attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia into the category he defined as, "very fine people". The only thing he didn't clarify is which "side" they were on.

It is insanely unjust of you ask the question, "Did the loving, peaceful 'left' just assassinate Charlie Kirk?" because it implies that the actions of someone who is (at the time of this writing) unidentified, and whose motive is unknown is associated with "the left". You have absolutely no justification for making such incendiary accusations. 

As for your anti-American comments, please make them on your own soil, using resources provided by your own country. It is the epitome of hubris to use an American platform to criticize America.

I will also be requesting that the Mods delete this disgusting thread.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 11:28am

Our Dear Leader would love another strident buffoon on his team.

Yep, he's an Aussie MAGAt, which is hilarious and really sad. And of all the 300+ mass shootings/political assassinations that occurred this year, this OP didn't make a thread about any one of them. Just outrage for a man who is openly racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic and just a real as*hole. Weird.

OP's obsession with America, (he does not live here) and attempting to lecture us about our own Country is pathetic. We don't want you here, we don't need you there, your hatred is like a disease. Stay away and get a life outside this website. No one here listens to you regarding politics or elections so stop talking about them. Worry about your own problematic country.

The world is better off with CK dead. Afterall, he died like he wanted. He said deaths were ok so long as gun rights were protected. He died, and nobody is touching their gun rights.

Mission Accomplished, bruh. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 11:29am

That is not accurate. Have you actually watched the video? If not, why not? If you watch the video he EXPLICITLY says he is 'NOT REFERRING TO NEO-NAZIS'. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs

Why is it always on the burden for me to make you actually look at first hand information and draw the right conclusions?

As for the thread, I'll repeat again the title of the thread is a QUESTION...that does invite debate about this. I suspect we will find either the shooter or the person who hired the shooter is obviously an ideologically left motivated person, why would they care to kill Charlie Kirk? But if I'm wrong, I'll happily be wrong. In fact VERY happily. If I'm right, I'll wait for whatever excuse you all want to give for this terrorism. 

As for you all getting precious about 'anti-American' attitudes, well all I'll say is to me you are coming across as the very kind of nationalist Trump supporting uncultured American you pretend to despise by saying that so it's very funny to witness. I love America, I don't love what you're doing to it - and as I said it affects ME DIRECTLY. Don't pretend that in our globalised world we live in national silos ESPECIALLY when we're talking about the impact of the USA. 

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 11:33am

Where was your post decrying the violent rhetoric of the far right when Melissa Hortman and her husband were assassinated?

At this point it is hard to take you seriously.