Did the loving, peaceful 'left' just assassinate Charlie Kirk?- Page 4

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 8:31pm

ACL2006 said: "my post about Kirk wanting trans people and gays stoned to death got deleted. But here's a post detailing his hatred for the LGBTQ+ community:



https://www.instagram.com/p/DOeKMW5iVOp/



"Charlie Kirk believed that gay people should be stoned to death, that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a “huge mistake,” that we should legally be allowed to whip foreigners in the U.S., that Muslims only move here to destroy the country, that American Jews encourage anti-whiteness, that men should physically attack transgender people, that all women should submit to their husbands, and that Black professionals “steal” their jobs from more qualified white people.

Kirk used his massively influential, billionaire-funded “young conservative organization” Turning Point USA to spread these hateful views on a grand scale to a rising generation of copycat, crypto-fascist, edgelord trolls. And now that he’s been publicly slain in a horrific assassination, President Donald Trump has hailed Kirk as a “wonderful American” and a “martyr for truth and freedom.” Trump, gay Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D), and others are flying flags at half-mast to commemorate him, and Kirk’s podcast bestie Gov. Gavin Newsom is telling people to “honor Charlie’s memory” by continuing his work." Follow the link in bio to read more."

This website is so freaking weird! Why would the mods have deleted your post and yet they let all the BS of the original poster stand?? Unreal. 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 8:34pm

I really was not a fan of Kirk in any way shape or form … but I never heard him being quite that evil. Seems like a gross exaggeration, which there is no need for. Hi s own words speak for themselves. He was not a good person.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 8:43pm

I just googled, and yeah, he was even worse than I thought. Sorry. At least some of those are true.

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 9/11/25 at 9:34pm

Charlie will never have to worry about flying in a plane with a black pilot anymore. I know he expressed concern over that. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 2:07am

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Updated On: 9/12/25 at 02:07 AM

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 2:18am

Did Charlie Kirk say that gays should be stoned to death, or did he read a bible passage to illustrate a claim that he thinks homosexuality is morally wrong (as you would expect many Christians to do)? There is a difference between these two actions…does anyone have the full unedited video?

Updated On: 9/12/25 at 02:18 AM

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 2:25am

Also, regardless of what he actually said I think this reflects the problem that we are facing. We value freedom of speech. The obvious unintended consequence of normalising political violence is that it starts to become practiced two way. 

Are you wanting to get LGBT activists shot??

Your violent, murderous views are terrorism and the fact that you THINK you are the ‘good guys’ is laughable. 
 

IF YOU WANT TO KILL SOMEONE OR JUSTIFY THE VICIOUS MURDER OF SOMEONE FOR EXPRESSING FREEDOM OF SPEECH YOU ARE A TERRORIST. YOU ARE NOT THE GOOD GUY. 
 
You lost the cancel culture debate so now you’re gleefully happy that people DIE for their views instead? This is ****ing sick. This is wrong. This is one of the lowest points of humanity I’ve ever witnessed. 

History will see you as terrorists. 
 

Updated On: 9/12/25 at 02:25 AM

[Seb28]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 6:07am

Matt Rogers said: "his hatred for the LGBTQ+ community:"

If you care at all about LGBTQ+ lives, you would share Kirk's concerns and criticism on islam. 

Sure, he had his opinions, but he never wished violence or harm on anyone. What makes it extra dangerous is that the left doesn't seem to do anything to stop their suppression and abuse of women and their goal of murdering of gay people, to name a few problems. In fact, they are defending it. Thousands of islamic schools in the west teach children that homosexuals must be slaughtered and that beating women is ok and that you can rape them, it's in Quran. And islam is not a religion, it is an ideology that has not been through enlightenment. Whenever you say something about this, the left starts to attack the messenger.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 7:55am

binau said: "Did Charlie Kirk say that gays should be stoned to death, or did he read a bible passage to illustrate a claim that he thinks homosexuality is morally wrong (as you would expect many Christians to do)? There is a difference between these two actions…does anyone have the full unedited video?"

do a Google search of his beliefs on LGBTQ+ people. Why are you defending him as if he was a good Christian who loved everyone? He was openly against trans people existing, strongly opposed gay marriage and said that blacks had more rights when they were slaves.

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 8:04am

Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "his hatred for the LGBTQ+ community:"

If you care at all about LGBTQ+ lives, you would share Kirk's concerns and criticism on islam.

Sure, he had his opinions, but he never wished violence or harm on anyone. What makes it extra dangerous is that the left doesn't seem to do anything to stop their suppression and abuse of women and their goal of murdering of gay people, to name a few problems. In fact, they are defending it. Thousands of islamic schools in the west teach children that homosexuals must be slaughtered and that beating women is ok and that you can rape them, it's in Quran. And islam is not a religion, it is an ideology that has not been through enlightenment. Whenever you say something about this, the left starts to attack the messenger."

The Left: famous for abusing women and killing gay people. Seb is living on another planet. What an eccentric fool, with crappy taste to boot. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 8:06am

Trying to first understand the truth is not ‘defending’, I just want to be clear if he actually wishes gays to be stoned to death or not as claimed. I don’t believe he does, although I agree that like many other Christians he would hold views towards homosexuality I wouldn’t not agree with. But the point is that the response to this is a debate, not to shoot him in the neck so that his blood spurts out causing him to die so he can no longer speak. 

I think I’ve found the crux of what I want, if we all agree with this phrase then there are no problems. If you cannot accept this phrase I think you have a terrorist mindset. 
 

“If Charlie Kirk was murdered for expressing his political views, this was wrong. No one deserves to be murdered for their political views. There is no justification. We must protect the right for people to express themselves freely without fear of violence even and ESPECIALLY when we don’t agree with them”.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 8:53am

Seb28 said: "Matt Rogers said: "his hatred for the LGBTQ+ community:"

If you care at all about LGBTQ+ lives, you would share Kirk's concerns and criticism on islam.

Sure, he had his opinions, but he never wished violence or harm on anyone. What makes it extra dangerous is that the left doesn't seem to do anything to stop their suppression and abuse of women and their goal of murdering of gay people, to name a few problems. In fact, they are defending it. Thousands of islamic schools in the west teach children that homosexuals must be slaughtered and that beating women is ok and that you can rape them, it's in Quran. And islam is not a religion, it is an ideology that has not been through enlightenment. Whenever you say something about this, the left starts to attack the messenger."

Are you out of your mind? He wished violence on people all the time. LOOK IT UP. You’re a compulsive liar, just like your orange cult leader.

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 9:14am

If we don’t all agree to binau’s overly simplistic contract, we’re terrorists.

Jesus f*cking Christ, launch me into the sun.

Updated On: 9/12/25 at 09:14 AM

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 9:20am

ColorTheHours048 said: "If we don’t all agree to binau’s overly simplistic contract,we’re terrorists.

Jesus f*cking Christ, launch me into the sun."

binau isn't making any sense, but then says if don't agree with them, he's going to label us a terrorists? WTF?!?! I've said multiple times to do a quick Google search of Kirk's stance of the LGBTQ+ community and he replies with "you need to agree with me or you're a terrorist ". Looks like it's time to add someone to my block list.

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 9:27am

If you cannot agree that expressing political views in the USA should not face threats or actual physical violence, you are expressing terrorist attitudes. This is what terrorism is. Please shake yourselves out of this. Use whatever words you want to use: will you condemn this shooting and state that no one including Charlie Kirk should face violence for expression of their political views? 

What does his views on LGBT have to do with this? Are you saying because of those views he should face physical violence, to be clear? 

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 9:44am

ACL2006 said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "If we don’t all agree to binau’s overly simplistic contract,we’re terrorists.

Jesus f*cking Christ, launch me into the sun."

binau isn't making any sense, but then says if don't agree with them, he's going to label us a terrorists? WTF?!?! I've said multiple times to do a quick Google search of Kirk's stance of the LGBTQ+ community and he replies with "you need to agree with me or you're a terrorist ". Looks like it's time to add someone to my block list."

I try to avoid calling people names, even though I have to try my hardest, because it’s not productive. I think my posts do make sense but I’ve tried a different approach above. I think you can see what I’m trying to do, so you don’t have to pretend to be confused really?

Anyway, I enjoy your theatre related posts ACL2006 and I’m glad you’re still here personally. Lucky for me I can still read them :). 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 9:45am

binau said: "If you cannot agree that expressing political views in the USA should not face threats or actual physical violence, you are expressing terrorist attitudes. This is what terrorism is. Please shake yourselves out of this. Use whatever words you want to use: will you condemn this shooting and state that no one including Charlie Kirk should face violence for expression of their political views?

What does his views on LGBT have to do with this? Are you saying because of those views he should face physical violence, to be clear?"

Nobody has said anything about not allowing free speech being revoked of any kind. I don't understand what view your trying to label some as terrorists. MAGAs have made Kirk sound like he's a good Christian when he's openly said gays should be stoned to death. You can't call someone a good Christian if they're advocating the death of certain people.

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 9:53am

All I want you to do is agree on one basic principle: that Charlie Kirk should not have been subjected to violence, no matter what you think of his words or politics. The fact that you can’t say this is telling. If you won’t, it suggests you do see violence as a legitimate tool of political suppression — and that’s the very definition of terrorism. That’s what makes this moment so shocking.

 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:06am

binau said: "All I want you to do is agree on one basic principle: that Charlie Kirk should not have been subjected to violence, no matter what you think of his words or politics. The fact that you can’t say this is telling. If you won’t, it suggests you do see violence as a legitimate tool of political suppression — and that’s the very definition of terrorism. That’s what makes this moment so shocking.

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Nobody is cheering for his death. What happened was beyond tragic and terrifying because it can happen to anyone. This shouldn't have happened. However, MAGAs never said anything when Minnesota's Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman were shot. The hypocrisy from the right is alarming. And yet you, binau, have said nothing condemning Kirk's words about wanting gays and trans people stoned to death. MAGAs are pissed at liberals because we're not mourning his death. Sorry, but I'm not mourning someone who wanted people killed.

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:08am

If you don’t think Charlie Kirk’s life work and views were violent, I don’t even know what to say to you to make you understand how absolutely backwards you are. (That binau is so smug and self-righteous about it colors everything else they post, for me.) Just because the guy wasn’t shooting the people he was debating doesn’t mean he wasn’t encouraging the violence enacted every day on US citizens, citizenship-seekers, and non-US countries.

I did not wish for him to be assassinated, but he said multiple times himself that deaths like his are an acceptable cost of the 2nd amendment. I also don’t believe that people have a right to the kind of weaponry that Kirk was killed by except in the rarest of circumstances, but that’s another one of the many ways I disagreed with him.

Updated On: 9/12/25 at 10:08 AM

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:16am

Welp. Turns out the assassin was a conservative dude named Tyler Robinson. Political violence from another Right Wing terrorist. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a culture that constantly fetishizes and and fantasizes about the use of guns to end "tyranny" is to blame for most (NOT ALL) of the political violence in the US.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:20am

For the record, I am AGAINST murder.

That doesn’t mean I am obligated to cry myself to sleep tonight.

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:26am

Thank you. Ok I agree with you all then, that he should not have been killed but I agree you don’t have to cry about it. For what it’s worth, I would likely disagree with most of the things he says because he is a conservative Christian. I just think we have to deal with it through the same mechanisms he was using - debate - not violence- or we will descend into anarchy. Even if the right are ultimate hypocrites, the point is we are not meant to be that. We are not meant to decend into that. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:29am

Bwaygurl2 said: "Welp. Turns out the assassin was a conservative dude named Tyler Robinson. Political violence from another Right Wing terrorist. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a culture that constantly fetishizes and and fantasizes about the use of guns to end "tyranny" is to blame for most (NOT ALL) of the political violence in the US."

 the BBC are quoting the governor saying the shooter “ Robinson had told a family member that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate", according to Cox.“

 

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 9/12/25 at 10:35am

binau said: "Bwaygurl2 said: "Welp. Turns out the assassin was a conservative dude named Tyler Robinson. Political violence from another Right Wing terrorist. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a culture that constantly fetishizes and and fantasizes about the use of guns to end "tyranny" is to blame for most (NOT ALL) of the political violence in the US."

the BBC are quoting the governor saying the shooter “Robinson had told a family member that "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate", according to Cox.“

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Time will tell. If I am wrong, I will delete. But I have been noticing a trend lately that a lot of terrorism is no longer fitting neatly into a Left or Right frame. Luigi is a good example of this, with his weird ideology.