Election 2024 — Page 4

Harris isn't well liked, even by liberals, which is why I believe Biden is still the candidate.

Dems need to blow up Project 2025. It's gaining steam that #45 has mentioned it and is behind it and has some buzz now. That's some scary stuff.

Regan was one of our worst Presidents. Ignored the AIDS crisis. Also started us down the path of deregulation and trickle down economics that still persists and has destroyed the middle class.

Zeppie2022 said: ""George Stephanopoulos: "Did you watch the debate"..

Biden: "I don't think I did" - that was literally a week ago"

Trump says crazy nonsensical things every time he opens his mouth. Only one of them is talking abou tusing the miliatary against US citizens.

The crazy thing is back in 2016 and then towards 2020 Trump sounded like he himself was getting dementia. Unfortunately he is getting a free pass next to Biden. Biden can obviously not do this very complex, important job for the next 4 years. He is simply not physically and mentally capable and that is evident through both the debate and a long string of recent public hiccups. Do I believe he is only having these hiccups in public and not in private? Do I believe that his decision making ability is perfectly fine behind closed doors? No I do not. This man is not well. Please, for the love of god - the world's population and the USA population. Please, to stand ANY chance of winning this election and beating trump - Biden must stand down immediately and as soon as possible. This is not ok.

"Why is Biden SO determined to get a second term? I’ve never understood this. His one job was to beat Trump in 2020 and he succeeded. Now move on - undefeated, legacy secure. Relax into a happy retirement. He never should have even put himself forward as the presumptive nominee. By running again, he is undo-ing the best thing he ever did for the country. Sad, so sad."

Great post Jay. He is 81 and should be wanting to spend the rest of his days relaxing and enjoying his family and friends. He was VP for 8 years and POTUS for 4 years so his legacy is secure. He beat the evil Trump and if he wants to keep Trump from being POTUS again the best way to have that happen is somebody needs to replace him as nominee. I am sure I will get in trouble with some of the left leaning people on this board but I think Dr. Jill enjoys being FLOTUS more than Joe Biden wants to remain POTUS.

Updated On: 7/6/24 at 02:11 PM

He won’t actually be the nominee until the convention in August, so it’s not replacing him on the ticket - just picking someone else instead. Doable. We needed a Ted Kennedy, a candidate who didn’t automatically bow down to the incumbent. Perhaps it’s not too late. It shouldn’t be… otherwise what is even the point in holding a convention?

Zeppie, I actually like Jill. She is a good First Lady in that she has not sacrificed her entire identity for the role. She continues to live her own life, she is really only a part-time FL. She doesn’t seem to chase the limelight.

Zeppie2022 said: "Sadly, Joe was Senator of Maryland not Pennsylvania."

Well, Delaware actually. Just slightly in his defense, a large percentage of Delaware's population lives in suburbs (or exurbs) of Philadelphia, so it's likely that there would be some Delaware voters at any event in the Philadelphia area.

For the record, I'm hoping for Biden to step aside at this point. It's not that I think 80 is too old to run for president, or even that I really believe that his cognition has slipped in any non-superficial ways. It's that there's a wide perception that this is the case, and we need a stronger candidate to defeat Trump.

It’s not about age for me either. It’s about electability and capability. Jane Fonda is 86, I’d vote for her. President Fonda, I like it. I just feel that Biden has spent his battery power - and there is no shame in that. It’s not an insult or a flaw.

Jane Fonda was trying to save lives. She recognized the Vietnam War for the atrocity it was. The deaths of the heroes you mention are not on her conscience, but on the POTUSes of the time.

One clumsy momentary error of judgement is not deserving of 50 years of intense hatred. A lapse for which she apologizes. Nor does it undo her good work in many other areas.

Updated On: 7/9/24 at 05:42 PM

Highland Guy said: "In 1972, Jane Fonda visited our enemy in North Vietnam. Famously, she sat astride a North Vietnamanti-aircraft gun, grinning for the cameras. At the same time, brave and patriotic American military members were there fighting, and being injured, and being killed, and being taken prisoner. While Hanoi Jane was waving her arms and enjoying the limelight. I knew perhaps 12 men who were killed in Vietnam, and many more who were injured and continue to suffer from their trauma. They are heroes."

I consider those who fought in Vietnam victims of a State intent on sacrificing young lives to impose its will on people far across the globe. But there was nothing heroic about it - only tragic. The fact that the North Vietnamese won, and now we're trading partners with them to the tune of more than a hundred billion dollars a year, suggests they were never really our enemy.

Updated On: 7/10/24 at 11:36 PM

Well if he does get back in, Kamala certainly has a higher chance of stepping in than most Veeps. Chants of “four more years!” to me only serve to highlight Joe’s increasing frailty - inviting us to genuinely wonder how he might go further downhill.

George Clooney wrote in the NYT today that he thinks Biden should step aside.

Do we all agree that if Clooney himself was the nominee he would probably win comfortably in November?

A shame to give in to celebrity culture, again, but needs must.

Fonda - Baez 2024!

The Dem convention is not until next month. Joe himself hasn’t even gotten the ticket yet, I can’t see how he could be entitled to step aside and gift it to Kamala. What we need is for someone to challenge him, it’s not too late. In theory.