Election 2024- Page 41

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/13/25 at 10:18pm

binau said: "I'm [...] incapable [...] very superficial and lacking any intellectual depth"

Edited for time.

 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/14/25 at 12:15am

binau is gone. let's hope Zeppie and the other MAGAs that bombard these boards go away as well.

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 9/14/25 at 11:22am

“Stop calling Charlie Kirk a ‘conservative activist,’” the conservative commentator Glenn Beck wrote on X. “He was a civil rights leader.”

Unbelievable nonsense.  But not to be outdone in the deplorable department is this from an elected official:

On Capitol Hill, Representative Clay Higgins, Republican of Louisiana, said he would use his congressional authority to seek immediate bans for life from social media platforms for anyone who “belittled the assassination of Charlie Kirk.”

“I’m also going after their business licenses and permitting, their businesses will be blacklisted aggressively, they should be kicked from every school, and their drivers licenses should be revoked,” he wrote on X. “I’m basically going to cancel with extreme prejudice these evil, sick animals who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination. I’m starting that today.”

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/13/us/politics/trump-kirk-political-opponents.html

Updated On: 9/14/25 at 11:22 AM

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/14/25 at 11:34am

SteveSanders said: "“Stop calling Charlie Kirk a ‘conservative activist,’” the conservative commentator Glenn Beck wrote on X. “He was a civil rights leader.”"

...and that children, is what's known as "Cultural appropriation".

 

[binau]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 2:12am

Some more information from BBC

”The governor said among those co-operating with authorities is Mr Robinson's roommate, who he said was also his partner.

He said the partner did not have have any knowledge about the alleged shooting, had been "incredibly co-operative" and was working with investigators "right now".

He also confirmed that the partner was currently "transitioning from male to female", but, when asked by CNN, said that authorities do not yet know if that is relevant to the investigation.”

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 9:32am

Binau… do you accept the existence of trans people?

Why do they have SO much power to you, enough as to lose a federal election… to Donald Trump?

Why are his many sins overlooked by voters, but the one thing that swings it is an acceptance of the trans community?

School shootings… nah… gerrymandering… nah… closure of the Dept. Of Education… nah… losing your home to pay for medical costs… nah…

The REAL DEALBREAKER FOR MIDDLE AMERICA IS TRANS PEOPLE!

 

P.S. The most famous trans person in America is a devout MAGA supporter, Caitlyn Jenner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[binau]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 10:03am

Yes of course. I know trans people - do you? It’s why I’m often surprised at the discourse because the trans people I know (which aren’t many I admit) just want to live their lives without being put in the firing line all the time. 

My current position is: trans people yes, sex change surgery yes if above age 18, biological men playing in women’s sports no. 
 

As I have argued before, the lack of concession for some of these items such as sports and how we handle treatment of gender dysphoria for minors have put trans people in the firing line because of an overreach by activists who are causing there to be a public backlash towards trans people.

Which is now only going to get worse if the shooter’s ideology motivates was related to these issues, and the evidence is suggesting currently it’s highly likely it’s turning this way unfortunately. 

Why even pose the question ‘do you accept the existence of trans people’ as if it’s an extreme binary you’re for everything or you’re against everything. This is the key problem there is no reasonable positions anymore just extremes  

Everything else including and especially gun culture and school shootings are more important. So let’s just agree where concessions are to be made so we can move onto more important topics. Instead, many will continue dying on a hill for everything achieving counter productive outcomes and stopping the more important issues to be talked about  

 

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 11:19am

binau said: "Some more information from BBC

”The governor said among those co-operating with authorities is Mr Robinson's roommate, who he said was also his partner.

He said the partner did not have have any knowledge about the alleged shooting, had been "incredibly co-operative" and was working with investigators "right now".

He also confirmed that the partner was currently "transitioning from male to female", but, when asked by CNN, said that authorities do not yet know if that is relevant to the investigation.”"

You just told a truckload of lies, moron. Also, this is not the thread for your above post. That thread was shut down. So have a seat and shut the f*ck up. Idiot. 

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 11:37am

binau said: "sex change surgery yes if above age 18"

Why not allow transgender minors, their families, and their doctors to decide together how to proceed based on their individual circumstances, without the government butting in? That would seem to me to be the default conservative position.

Updated On: 9/15/25 at 11:37 AM

[binau]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 12:12pm

Matt Rogers said: "binau said: "Some more information from BBC

”The governor said among those co-operating with authorities is Mr Robinson's roommate, who he said was also his partner.

He said the partner did not have have any knowledge about the alleged shooting, had been "incredibly co-operative" and was working with investigators "right now".

He also confirmed that the partner was currently "transitioning from male to female", but, when asked by CNN, said that authorities do not yet know if that is relevant to the investigation.”"

You just told a truckload of lies, moron. Also, this is not the thread for your above post. That thread was shut down. So have a seat and shut the f*ck up. Idiot."
Sorry but I LITERALLY copy pasted directly rom the BBC. Are you disputing that this information is correct? 

You can read it for yourself here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gvrw2pgedo

Updated On: 9/15/25 at 12:12 PM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 3:22pm

I posed the question because you seem to base your whole hypothesis on the fact that the killer's girlfriend is trans. Therefore the whole left is to blame. It does not make sense to me. You're just seeing things that are not there, jumping to conclusions, apportioning blame to your pet hates. The fact is that Tyler Robinson is just one person, not bound to any one ideology, and is neither far left nor far right. He is just one single lunatic.

Updated On: 9/15/25 at 03:22 PM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 3:30pm

I say this without apology: if anyone uses the facts of this crime to demonize transgender people as a group, they are absolutely the worst actors in the whole situation. They will do far more harm than a single bullet could ever do.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 3:40pm

Binew is not conservative, just a sad person whose entire personality is BWW. After announcing their departure (this isn't the airport?) he lasted a DAY because this website is his entire life. Can't get more pathetic than that. Ignoring him going forward will help all three of them f*ck off faster since they can't stand not being acknowledged. They NEED attention online since they have none in their real lives. Their heroes are such gross losers, it's breathtaking. 

[binau]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 4:04pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "I posed the question because you seem to base your whole hypothesis on the fact that the killer's girlfriend is trans. Therefore the whole left is to blame. It does not make sense to me. You're just seeing things that are not there, jumping to conclusions, apportioning blame to your pet hates. The fact is that Tyler Robinson is just one person, not bound to any one ideology, and is neither far left nor far right. He is just one single lunatic."

Oh I see, the evidence is based on multiple points that was just one of the latest. Based on the evidence below (if true, it may end up not being so), I think it's highly likely that the shooter killed Charlie Kirk because he found Charlie Kirk's views towards LGBT and other minorities to be hateful and that he was contributing to fascism. These are left-wing views if we had to align them on an ideological perspective. 

It's not about blaming trans people or blaming the left etc.. it's more that recognising that it does appear left wing ideology can be radicalised in rare cases and we do we have to be careful not to have rhetoric so extreme that it leads to this.

a) BBC: Said "Charlie Kirk is full of hate and spreads Hate"
b) BBC: uses left-wing symbolism (e.g. the anti-fascist lyrics on the bullet-casing)
c) BBC: has a transgender parter 
d) CNN: colleague says the shooter does not like Trump or Kirk 
e) [Alleged]: shoots someone in the neck who is critical of transgender issues

[binau]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 4:09pm

kdogg36 said: "binau said: "sex change surgery yes if above age 18"

Why not allow transgender minors, their families, and their doctors to decide together how to proceed based on their individual circumstances, without the government butting in? That would seem to me to be the defaultconservativeposition."

I think this is the good point, and I think there are some cases where it would be appropriate for this to happen. My observation is that there is a bit of risk right now as I don't think we are precise enough on when and how we should diagnose and use these treatments. I agree with the principle but not the current practical implication, so I'd prefer not until the science is more definitive (See also, the closing of the NHS Tavistock child identity clinic in the UK) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62335665)

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 4:21pm

Don't respond. Don't engage. They will piss off sooner.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 4:44pm

Sutton Ross said: "Don't respond. Don't engage. They will piss off sooner."

Binau was supposed to disappear yesterday but had to come back due to.... I thought I wouldn't have to block them because it thought they were moving on from these boards. I guess they really have no other outlet to spread their lies and hate speech.

[binau]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 4:48pm

ACL2006, can you quote a single thing that I've ever said that would be 'hate speech'? 

Updated On: 9/15/25 at 04:48 PM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 4:58pm

Another thread bites the dust over on the main board, I see.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 5:00pm

Oh, wait! It has just reappeared over here on the OT Board. Fair, moderators, fair.

Most of the people who posted never come to these parts, though.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 7:04pm

ACL2006 said: "Sutton Ross said: "Don't respond. Don't engage. They will piss off sooner."

Binau was supposed to disappear yesterday but had to come back due to.... I thought I wouldn't have to block them because it thought they were moving on from these boards. I guess they really have no other outlet to spread their lies and hate speech."

They truly don't. When you don't have anything else in your life (no friends, no job, no activities) except spewing vitriolic rhetoric online, people tend to get real weird.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/15/25 at 7:09pm

How does he see so many shows, all over the globe, if he has no job?

[binau]

Posted: 9/16/25 at 1:28am

binau said: "ACL2006, can you quote a single thing that I've ever said that would be 'hate speech'?"

Of course you can’t. It’s amazing how much ‘talk’ you all are. How awful you all are. But when I ask for substance there is none. 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 9/16/25 at 6:46am

kdogg36 said: "I say this without apology: if anyone uses the facts of this crime to demonize transgender people as a group, they are absolutely the worst actors in the whole situation. They will do far more harm than a single bullet could ever do."

Fox News was using the "demonize trans people" last night. Gutfeld is a disgusting p.o.s. They really have no other outlet with this shooter other than to say he's mentally ill because his roommate was trans.