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Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond

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TabooPhan1
#75re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/19/05 at 10:58pm

Well, going back to Jack, I think it's really how YOU perceive the character. I always looked at Jack in a more satirical way, poking fun at the stereotype that all gay men can't have a monogomous (sp?) relationship, or that they all want to be actor/singer/dancers, or they are obsessed with Kevin Bacon. The whole point of a sitcom is to entertain you, and thus it cannot always be taken seriously. Should straight men be offended by the way Raymond acts sometimes? He can be selfish and stupid and rude, and one could argue that that show is BLATANTLY sexist towards men, since Deborah is constantly the voice of reason/sanity. Maybe police officers should be offended by Reno 911 because it depicts all policemen and women as fools. Or what about friends? Almost every character on that show represents a social stereotype. Let's just ban anything that depicts any character in an unrealistic, stereotypical manner. Should we start in on stereotypes in the theatre? Cause that discussion could last several years, I think.

Mister Matt- I totally agree with your comment about Sean Hayes NOT playing him as gay. The whole idea with Jack, like Matt said, is that he's an egomaniac. The same goes for Karen. Think of them as the comic relief. What if the show was just Will and Grace? I, for one, would be bored without the out-of-this world characters of Jack and Karen. The fact that they might be unbelievable does not make them boring. If that were the case, musical theatre, horror movies, and Liberace never would have existed.


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Mr Roxy
#76re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/20/05 at 6:20am

It ran for 9 seasons so i guess some ( including yours truly ) found it funny

To each his own


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MagicToDo82
#77re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/20/05 at 10:11am

Brad Garrett - funny.

Everybody Loves Raymond -- not funny.

and I gotta disagree with a lot of the W&G posts. I adore that show.


There's always room for pathos - and jazz hands.

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Lorelai
#78re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/20/05 at 10:15am

I HATE "everybody Loves Raymond", but I adore Will & Grace. I can't believe it's their last season.


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DottieD'Luscia
#79re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/20/05 at 10:49am

Never liked the show. Never got it's appeal. Don't like Brad Garrett. And definitely can not figure out how/why it won the Emmy on Sunday.


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Jon
#80re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/20/05 at 12:35pm

Now there is SERIOUS talk of a Brad Garrett spin-off. Conveninetly, Monica Horan, who plays his wife, is the real life wife of series creator Phil Rosenthal.

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EVIE
#81re: Everybody Doesn't Like Raymond
Posted: 9/20/05 at 7:14pm

I hate Raymond and think the cast, especially Doris Roberts and Patricia Heaton, are incredibly over-rated. There are MUCH MUCH better sitcoms out there that are not getting the credit they deserve.


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