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donna_darko_23
#1150re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 1:01am

I agree, Bella (about Denny). Why couldn't he come back to life the way Meredith did?

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#1151re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 1:52am

Nice, boxer7!! As for me...

re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted On: 2/3/07 at 05:48 PM


Possible spoiler:




Denny's going to reappear in an upcoming episode! I don't know whether it's in a flashback or a dream or what, but he'll be back! (And I have to say I'm bummed because I didn't like the Izzie/Denny storyline.)


*high fives*


I didn't care much for this episode although it made me like Christina EVEN MORE than I already did. The Mama and Baby Grey scene at the end almost made me teary though - I have a complex when it comes to parental relationship on film/TV.

Not keen in a Grey's spin-off, even though Addison can more than carry her own show.


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RadiGal2
#1152re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 2:00am

I think they jumped the shark with this storyline...but we'll see. I was so disgusted with myself for watching it live instead of rewind-- it was a real disappointment.. On the up side Christina was awesome tonight.

I could totally go for a spin off-- if Addy Bailey and Christina went... which would never happen...


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ashley0139
#1153re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 2:14am

I thought the episode was very predictable. Good, but predictable. Can we PLEASE get some more Addison in there please? And now she's going back to Mark... what happened to Alex?


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#1154re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 2:23am

wow i definetly cried. it was probably fueled by the fact that i just found out this evening that a guy i go to school with killed himself on monday. yea watching grey's anatomy tonight definetly didnt help me there.... intenseness

CJR
#1155re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 9:12am

Now, I dont know if it's because I've been reading the spoilers or because that was the most predictable episode ever (it doesnt help matters that my cute tiny grandmother reminds me every so often that Meredith isn't going to die because Ellen Pompeo just signed a new contract lol) but I didn't love it. Oh, there were moments I did love, don't get me wrong..... But the episode on a whole left me a little more than cold. I might watch it again tonight to see if it's something that requires a repeat viewing for me to appreciate it.... I'm thinking it won't though.

I'll need some time to collect my thoughts on the episode before I chime in on what I loved and hated.


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Cabchic
#1156re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 10:26am

I hated this whole arc. It was way too over the top and unbelievable to me. Plus every week when I watch the show and they ahve patients arriving you are in suspense about whether they would live or die. I KNEW there was no way they were killing Meredith for good so the drama was lost. They've made Izzie absolutely incredibly annoying.
I watched it at a viewing party at a bar in the city so I'm sure I missed some stuff, but it seemed to me that the people around me weren't thrilled with the episode either.
I hope when it returns in 2 weeks it's back to its old self. Stop trying to make "sweeps" episodes. I'm starting to prefer Ugly Betty to Greys.
Updated On: 2/23/07 at 10:26 AM

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xxnewgirlxx
#1157re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 10:29am

To me, what's wrong with this show in the last three weeks is they are trying too hard. Grey's is a fun show when it's about the interactions of the characters, not when its a gimmick. The "fake out death" is a gimmick.

I did like the moment between Ellis and Meredith, and Denny can make anyone smile, but the majority of the show was a dud. That ridiculous Monica Keena "bleeding out" stuff was laughable.

Oh and I did like that George and Callie called out Izzie for her selfish childish behavior.

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Elphaba
#1158re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 10:49am

I found this episode very odd. And while I agree with the whole point of Christina being more human, the whole mother/daughter part bothered me. Way too many people die and they or their loved ones never have the chance to "right things".
That was just way too predictable.
The entire Izzy/Callie thing is old and makes no sense anyway.
With all the "heat" between Alex and Addison, I find it unbelieveable that Addison and Mark have this whole 60 day thing and then they'll try.
I love this show, but it's beginning to make no sense.

Now my partner totally lost it and was crying a lot.

This Sunday is the 3rd anniversary of his fathers death, and next month it has been one year that his Mom passed away, so that episode was extemely hard for him.


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losingmyreligion
#1159re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 11:20am

I have mixed feelings about this episode. On one hand, I thought the whole is-Meredith-dead/alive/in limbo/whatever was kind of dumb. It's not heaven but they're all dead and she isn't? It was hokey. And kind of weird.

On the other hand, I was in tears practically the entire time. Despite all of that weirdness. The scene with Ellis and Meredith...holy lord. I was like outright sobbing. Not to mention Christina's scenes. It was interesting to hear how her father died. It explains a lot about Christina's personality.

The scene with Richard and Ellis also made me cry. And, even though I strongly disliked the Izzie/Denny relationship last year, and even though his character annoyed the sh*t out of me, I still cried when he talked about Izzie and their "moments" and that moment at the end of the episode. Damn. I have never cried this much from a TV show before.

Alex and Addison just need to get together ONCE. At least once! I mean come on! And then Mark can have her.


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Anakela
#1160re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 12:08pm

I'm starting to prefer Ugly Betty to Greys.

Totally!! I actually thought about that last night, after GA was over and I was hating that episode so, if I would have hated it less if there had at least been a good UB episode on before it, so that my Thursday night tv viewing didn't *completely* suck and blow.

I loved the Cristina stuff- Sandra Oh is one of my phone book actors (you know- I'd buy a ticket to watch her read the phone book for a couple of hours, that's how great she is at acting the hell out of anything), and everything she did was totally brill onscreen last night, but the rest of it:

- I had no problems with the in limbo scenes in theory, I don't do organized religion but I do like to believe that there will be people there to meet me when I die, but the execution of it: why was woman bleeding like the human stigmata or something and kept dying, yet Dylan didn't keep blowing up, or Denny's heart didn't keep stopping? So her mom's old charge nurse and this former patient are there to greet her, but there's no George's dad or anyone else I figured would be closer to Meh? I just had no emotional investment in Meh in limbo, and I don't know if that's the fault of the writing or of Ellen Pompeo's acting, but by the time Ellis showed up I was rolling my eyes too much to even be able to cry.

- Live for Derek, who still believes in soulmates and love and the magic and is such a wide-eyed babe of an optimist and such that you dying will destroy him- yeah, you know, that Derek who didn't tell you about his wife, the wife he then chose over you, that guy who called you a whore that one time, the one who screwed you in a closet at the prom behind his wife's back? Yeah don't live for *yourself* or anything, but live for him.

- live for Derek, and Cristina, and George and Izzy. Oh yeah, sorry, have no reason why you should live for Alex.

- and plus why is she supposed to be living for all these other people, wasn't the point supposed to be that she had to want to live for herself, she had to 'choose' to live?

- Callie totally needs to just beat Izzy. Just once, just a little. Cause you know while someone's all in limbo maybe dying, and someone else is giving blood, *that* is the perfect time to pull some third grade "she's my friend, not your friend" crap.

- what happened to the creepy girl from the first two episodes? I mean, I didn't like her, but I figured after all that buildup that she would be there for part three, maybe walking into the light coming from a tv or something.

- Meh was on bypass. after having a temp in the 80s for hours. and being shot full of all sort of drugs. and she's all awake and alert and talking to people that night? alrightythen. I watch House, I can do tv medical disbelief, but there's tv medical disbelief and then there's 'what is this, straight outta a piece of fanfic?' disbelief.

- Derek in the waiting room, where he's sitting next to the man waiting for word on his wife who was hit by a car while on the ferry. I know It's All About Derek and all, but he couldn't have at least asked this guy his wife's name, this nice stranger who talked to Derek and asked about Meh and prayed for her? I don't know what it was, but especially with that "live for Derek" crap the Derek in the wait room scene just totally rubbed me the wrong way.

- Although apparently everyone else in the ferry accident besides pregnant woman and Meh were all well enough to go home between last week and this week, so that was nice.

And I just need to stop thinking about it now, because I just start hating it that much more. :)

Perhaps when they're out of the sweeps stunt and back to doing actual surgeries then I will forget all about this arc.

The Addison's Anatomy spinoff can not come soon enough, provided Ellen Pompeo is not on it, and Marti Noxon doesn't write it.

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losingmyreligion
#1161re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 12:39pm

Anakela, I was literally thinking the same thing as you regarding Callie/Izzie and Mer/Der! I wanted to just SHAKE Izzie or something. She was really being obnoxious and immature. Seriously, she's not George's mother, she needs to let him live his own life like an adult even if that means she doesn't agree with everything. She's also being a little self-righteous with the whole "I can't help saying what I feel" thing. Um, you have the physical ability to shut your mouth. So do it. Haha. She's so rude to Callie and it bothers me.

Mer and Der are both a little bit selfish. They deserve each other :)


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bella cantato
#1162re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 1:05pm

"- Although apparently everyone else in the ferry accident besides pregnant woman and Meh were all well enough to go home between last week and this week, so that was nice."

HAHAHAHA.... seriously. that made me laugh out loud. re: Grey's Anatomy


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CJR
#1163re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 1:14pm

After listening to the podcast, I have more to say.

As for why George's dad wasn't there, Shonda did toy with the idea. She said she finally decided it would be disrespectful to have him there considering how recent his death was... not to mention that, while his death affected everyone, Meredith was least affected by it.

In regards to Denny telling Meredith to live for her friends and for Derek, I don't think that was intended literally. I think it was more along the lines of "live for the time you'll have with them because they're the most important people in your life." I think that was affirmed when Meredith said she didn't want to just have the moments.

It hit really close to home when Meredith said "I had intimacy issues -- do you know how silly that sounds now?" Because we all have issues like that. Issues that, in the grand scheme of things, *are* very silly and sometimes keep you from some really amazing things in your life.

However trite and predictable, I really liked the moment between Ellis and Meredith. If you go back to the scene where Derek was yelling at Ellis, you'll notice when he walks out her expression changes and it appears that -- if only for a moment -- she's truly understood what he's said to her. You know, and you don't get to right those wrongs -- like how Meredith wasted what turned out to be her last day with her mother.... Her last lucid day. You don't get to right them, but you can be alright with them. (my dad died before I could ever right things with him and while I'm sorry for that, in retrospect, I understand that everything has happened exactly how it should have. I can relate)

Izzie and Callie. Oooooh Izzie and Callie. Alright. Maybe Callie was a little over the line with her comment. I'll give Izzie that. It wasn't unprovoked, however. Callie has tried time and time again to be proactive and be nice and get to know Izzie and be a part of their lives... and Izzie has done nothing but give her sh!t and be rude. Not for nothing, I think Izzie got everything she deserved from both George AND Callie last night. She needs someone to knock her ass off her high horse about all that.

I loved when Denny talked about moments and how that's all you get when you're dead -- moments with the ones you love. And how sometimes when he and Izzie are in the same place at the same time, he can feel her.... and he likes to think she knows he's there. Ditto the scene at the end between the two of them which made me bawl my eyes out.

Im so glad Burke finally "got" what Cristina was trying to say about Meredith being her 'person' and went to the bar to talk her into going back to the hospital. I also love how they showed Cristina -- who is NOT a touchy person by any means -- really connecting with Meredith because she wanted so badly for her to not be dead. And also how emotionally overjoyed she was when she did come around. Great great moment and Sandra Oh played it perfectly.

The scene where Richard was talking to Ellis absolutely broke my heart. I know what it's like to have this consuming love for someone, but not be able to be with them due to circumstance, timing, what-have-you. But to know that they are really never going to be there again -- that you won't be able to talk to them or hear their voice or laugh with them or just be -- is one of the most gut wrenching and most heart breaking things I can imagine.

I HATED when Addison was sitting outside Meredith's room watching her with Derek. I know the expression on her face was supposed to say "damn, we never had that" but to me it said "Dammit, that b!tch lived."

I also think the bet between Sloan and Addison is crap. And the cut to Alex when she asked who would she be sleeping with was just WAY too cheesy and predictable.

I didn't realize till I read the writers blog this morning that Marti Noxon wrote this episode. It was clear to me that something was off, considering Shonda wrote the first two episodes of the arc, but now I understand why.



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Updated On: 2/23/07 at 01:14 PM

diva007
#1164re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 1:57pm

Does antbody else think that Alex will get together his pregnant patient who has amnesia?

That's what I am predicting.

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#1165re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 6:44pm

I LOVED Denny in this episode. The Denny/Izzie moment at the end made me cry a little. As did Ellis telling Meredith that she was "anything but ordinary."

Twenty bucks says that either Mark or Addison will break the voew of no sex. Who wants in? haha

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#1166re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 7:22pm

Does Addison seriously trust Mark enough to just believe him after 60 days if he says that he hasn't had sex?

The episode was good, albeit predictable. Not one of the best, though. Definitely not as good as they were advertising it to be. I loved Denny and Izzie's moment. I also got a bit teary eyed when Webber said "This is Ellis Grey's girl! My girl." Great writing for Cristina, too. Absolutely hysterical. I will never be able to look at a 99 cent store the same way again.

I had to DVR it because I was in the city all day yesterday, what happened in the scenes from next week's episode? Anything good?

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#1167re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/23/07 at 7:30pm

Its a re-run next week so we didn't get a preview wich really kept with the dissapointing tone of the evening.


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snl89
#1168re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/25/07 at 9:28pm

I think I'm one of the few people who REALLY liked this episode. I mean, sure, it was predictable, but I would NOT have wanted it any other way! I do feel that they shouldn't have just dropped everyone else's stories, but I also understand why they would have naturally focused on meredith the way they chose to go with it. If they continued with the stories in following episodes, I would really be happy with that, because i DO feel like a lot of it was unresolved. But mostly, I just thought that the acting in this episode was SO spot on, by everyone. I love Patrick Dempsey and Ellen Pompeo, but never really thought of them as the *brilliant actors* of the show. But my lord they sure delivered with this one! they were SO GOOD. And Sandra Oh and Kate Walsh are always brilliant. Really, really awesome performances. And Jeffrey Dean Morgan, I could not love him more! He's SO incredible (and SO gorgeous <3). The way that smile just came over his face the minute he started thinking about Izzie. Words can't describe how much I loved that. Oh and the bantering between him and the bomb guy in the beginning was so funny hehe.

Wow, I'm rambling, but yeah, basically the performances made up for any weakness in the writing/flow of the episode for me :)


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donna_darko_23
#1169re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/26/07 at 12:58am

There is no new episode of Grey's this week, right?

mauriposa
#1170re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/26/07 at 1:09am

Correct. Hence the lack of scenes for next week.

CJR
#1171re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/26/07 at 9:04am

The next new episode is March 15th


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#1172re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/26/07 at 10:47am

I was hoping for a really dramatic ending. After they brought Meredith back to life, evryone was just like Oh! shes alive! I know they are doctors but I wish it was more dramatic.

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#1173re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/26/07 at 11:22am

Here's my problem with Grey's Anatomy: It is a good, entertaining TV show that thinks it is a great TV show. It has the possibility to be great, it's just hindered by its creator. I don't know how many people read the writer's blog, but I eventually had to stop because of how infuriating it was to realize, week after week, that Shonda Rhimes is simply writing fanfic on my TV screen. She thinks Meredith and Derek are the most romantic thing in the world, so she will do anything she can to make them work, sometimes to the detrement of her characters. She loves Jeffery Dean Morgan so she will find a way to bring him back if only for one episode, even to the detrement of her show.

There are some elements of the show I LOVE. I love Addison and Cristina, I love the group dynamics, I love Alex's character arc so far. But these things are constantly being pushed aside to play the "Aren't Mere/Der DREAMY?" and "Just HOW horrible of a person can Izzie actually be?" games. And yes, it is her show, she can do what she likes with it. That's not what I take issue with. I take issue with her doing exactly that and then trying to justify it to anyone who dares disagree.

Those problems are evident all over in the show. Meredith is a character I could love on paper, but I refuse to keep being told what a strong, indepent, modern woman Meredith is because of her views on sex, when she is anything but. She's simply a woman who uses sex as a form of self medication and allows that to affect her life. If anyone fits that mold it's Cristina, who is neurotic and closed off and weird, but admits it freely and continues to live her life.

The whole thing just rings so false to me, and it's endlessly frustrating for me to see people who buy into the hype and think the show is 'so amazing' and 'the best on tv' because it's not. It's had some amazing moments, and I think the first part of the superbowl episode was a truly amazing episode of TV, but I feel like it constantly struggles under the weight of the . . .well, fanfic crap that the writers sometimes pull. And this last episode was a perfect example of fanfic crap.

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#1174re: Grey's Anatomy
Posted: 2/26/07 at 3:48pm

Totally agree with CJR except for the part with Denny being in the dream sequence. I love him and thought it a possibility that when a person is near death they do see people they know. Denny's speech about "feeling each other there" etc. and showing it with IZZY at the end of the show, made me boo boo.


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