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I have decided to stop reading memoirs.

I have decided to stop reading memoirs.

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DBillyP
#1I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 11:43am

I recently read two memoirs, Breakfast with Tiffany and The History of Swimming. Both had interesting premises and promising starts but, ultimately, faded into self-indulgent therapy sessions for the writers. The definition of memoir, for me, has become, "An autobiography by someone who isn't important enough to warrant a biography but who thinks s/he is interesting enough for you to care."


"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

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robbiej
#2re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 11:46am

Stick ONLY with old, faded actresses' memoirs. And regard them as fiction. Then, it's fun.

Otherwise, who cares?


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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#2re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 11:53am

LOL ... I tried to pretend that The History of Swimming was fiction, but then it was just bad. At least if it was true I could forgive the melodramatics.

Now I am worried because one of the next books in the stack is a work of fiction that a critic said reads like a memoir ...


"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

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PalJoey
#3re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 11:56am

Best memoir ever.

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Borstalboy
#4re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 11:58am

What is the difference between a memoir and an autobiography?


Either way, you have to read Elia Kazan's A LIFE. He's a bastard, but a great writer...I still find myself leafing through it from time to time.


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

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DBillyP
#5re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 12:07pm

Technically, a memoir only covers a short period of time; an autobiography concerns itself with an entire life.


"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

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Borstalboy
#6re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 12:14pm

Well, in that case, check out THE FERVENT YEARS by Harold Clurman.


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

misschung
#7re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 12:18pm

The definition of memoir, for me, has become, "An autobiography by someone who isn't important enough to warrant a biography but who thinks s/he is interesting enough for you to care."

Ham on Rye, Charles Bukowski


The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?

Fenchurch
#8re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 12:50pm

The single best memoirs I've ever read: Anything by Ned Rorem.

Rorem, while a huge provacateur, writes incredible memoirs. Reading one is like diving into a who's who of the musical elite, as well as everything else you can think of. His writing style is incredible too.


"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." - muscle23ftl

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Pippin
#9re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 12:53pm

Has anyone here read Ellen Burstyn's autobiography? I am interested, but want to know if it's worth the time and money.


"I'm an American, Damnit!!! And if it's three things I don't believe in, it's quitting and math."

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StageManager2
#10re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 12:57pm

JEB AND DASH is a good one. Actually, they're the diary entries of a gay man at the turn of the century and his unrequited love for a friend. It begins shortly after Armistice Day and continues on through D-Day.

re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
Updated On: 10/26/07 at 12:57 PM

#11re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 1:18pm

"Night" by Eliezer Weisel is a very powerful memoir. What makes it amazing is that he never ever asks for pity. Everything is told in such a matter of fact tone. It's truly amazing to read about the horrors he went through because they are completely devoid of bitterness. There's no "Feel bad for me! I survived the Holocaust!"

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DBillyP
#12re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 1:40pm

DGG, I'll give you that one. Night is so powerful I threw it across the room when I finished; it made me so angry.


"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

#13re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 1:42pm

There's one passage that upsets me so much. I sob every time I read it, and we went over it so many times in class and for homework! I can't stand it anymore! Luckily, I just finished my exam on it a couple of hours ago. So sad.

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Norma D
#14re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:12pm

A long time ago I read the autobio of Rosalind Russell--I think the title is Life's a Banquet. Anyway-I remember thinking how funny she was even on paper.
My memory of it is a bit sketchy but I know I liked it at the time. :)
Memoirs might be different I guess I've never actually read something called specifically a memoir. What's the difference again?


Bill's thirty-two. He looks thirty-two. He looked it five years ago, he'll look it twenty years from now. I hate men. --Margo Channing

Fenchurch
#15re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:23pm

Elie Wiesel is just like that in real life. Unapologetic, but humble. The ideal gentleman as well. It's one of those evenings that you spend and know that it has changed your life.


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doodlenyc
#16re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:30pm

Polly's Principles: Polly Bergen Tells You How You Can Feel and Look as Young As She Does, Peter H. Wyden (New York City), 1974

Part memoir, part beauty book...very informative.

The part about the pros and cons of douching...very cleansing.


"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."

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doodlenyc
#17re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:30pm

Polly's Principles: Polly Bergen Tells You How You Can Feel and Look as Young As She Does, Peter H. Wyden (New York City), 1974

Part memoir, part beauty book...very informative.

The part about the pros and cons of douching...very cleansing.


"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."

"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS

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soapguy17
#18re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:42pm

I've only read three, but I've like all three of them. But, I hope to get to more of them soon. It's just that fiction is so much more appealing to me. But, I've enjoyed;

Angela's Ashes (Frank McCourt)
'Tis (Frank McCourt)
Don't Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight (Alexandra Fuller)


I have NEVER met Cheyenne Jackson. I have never hung out with him in his dressing room, he did not tweet me, he never bought me a beverage, and he mostly certainly didn't tickle me. . .that is all.
Updated On: 10/26/07 at 02:42 PM

misschung
#19re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:43pm

I think Angela's Ashes is 10x better than 'Tis


The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?

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soapguy17
#20re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:46pm

It is, that's why I'm afraid to read "Teacher Man".


I have NEVER met Cheyenne Jackson. I have never hung out with him in his dressing room, he did not tweet me, he never bought me a beverage, and he mostly certainly didn't tickle me. . .that is all.

misschung
#21re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:49pm

That one's my least favorite


The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?

Gothampc
#22re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:53pm

These days people are writing memoirs as therapy. I'm not paying to read about a person spilling their guts all over the page. I also don't think it's interesting while a person is still alive. Wait until your dead to share your secrets.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

Fenchurch
#23re: I have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:54pm

What's the difference between dead and alive? I'm curious.


"Fenchurch is correct, as usual." -Keen on Kean
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papalovesmambo
#24i have decided to stop reading memoirs.
Posted: 10/26/07 at 2:56pm

i'm partial to this one:
my year inside radical islam


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