Joe Torre

[NYadgal]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:06pm

has rejected a $5 million one year deal to return to the Yankees.

It's the end of an era.

[WithoutATrace]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:26pm

While I will miss him a lot next season, I'm just glad he didn't get fired. Hopefully Joe Girardi will be the next manager...or Don Mattingly (my all-time favorite Yankee ever).

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:32pm

Sounds like he just wanted to move on. It would be interesting to see if he ends up with another team or if he retires.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:00pm

Good for him.they left him twisting in the wind & gave him an offer he had to refuse.

Good luck to the new manager - whoever it turns out to be. He will need it.

Gives new meaning to "Take that job & shove it"

Updated On: 10/18/07 at 06:00 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:05pm

Put a fork in him. He is done. And other Roxy phrases.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:42pm

He was done NAMO

In case you are to dense to realize, this is an offer they knew he would turn down. They feel it takes the heat off them.

P.S. You never had an edge.

Updated On: 10/18/07 at 06:42 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:30pm

In each post in this thread I shall trot out one of your overused phrases. Because they're all so pithy and cute. (Not).

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:31pm

"P.S. You never had an edge."

For someone who never had an edge. He certainly manages to get you going.

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:38pm

If he just wanted to step down, he should have done so days ago. Rejecting the $5 mil + $3 mil in incentives deal just makes him look money-hungry.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:48pm

It was ostensibly a pay cut, no? When people are asked to take pay cuts, the shiite hits the fan, boys and girls.

[wexy]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:57pm

Its time for a change. He did a great job but its time to move on.

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:57pm

Well, it was a pay cut provided he didn't lead the team to the World Series (no doubt the deal coming to exactly $8 mil with incentives was intentional on the Yankee brass' part). Torre was far and away the highest-paid manager in baseball last year (at $7 mil, with the second-highest getting $3.5 mil), so earnestly believing that he'd think twice before rejecting anything below $7 mil for 2008 to stay with a team he professes to love didn't seem so crazy. Logically, he should be offered less money considering the Yankees' fate in the playoffs for the last seven years. Maybe he feels he's above the logic of salaries in baseball because of his track record from '96-'00.

On another note, I'm quite happy to see someone else get a chance for the '08 season. People tend to either grossly overstate or understand Torre's impact on the team, but after the results of the playoffs in recent years, it certainly shouldn't hurt to let another guy take the reigns.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 8:05pm

Good pun at the end there!

Oh wait, I forgot to add a Roxyism.

I am going to bed.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 9:48pm

The killer was the vesting part which did not happen unless he goes to the series. It was like managing with a gun to your head.

If you are going to bed NAMO, sleep tight & dream about wonderful things.

Updated On: 10/18/07 at 09:48 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:17pm

Just like you always do, I haven't really gone to bed.

Don't stick a fork in me.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:24pm

I would never do that to my good buddy.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:25pm

Anyway, it IS the end of an era, but the Yankees will win again.

[obsessedjb]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 11:16pm

I'm really stressing about what affect this will have on Mo and Posada's decisions.

[chealion313]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 11:25pm

As much as I hate the Yankees, I have to say good for him. They offered him something they knew he wouldn't take just so they could get rid of him. It's such a total lack of respect--how many franchises can say that one manager took the team to the playoffs every single year of his tenure, and yet, they want to get rid of him because the team hasn't won the World Series in a few years?

They shouldn't be blaming the lack of a World Series completely on Torre--some of the blame should go towards the overpriced, spoiled players who can't produce.

[RetroBoy]

Posted: 10/19/07 at 11:41am

Did Britney have anything to do with this?

Posted: 10/19/07 at 11:50am

Best sums up my feelings:

And let's take a step back. Again, we're all sad. Torre is leaving. Stand-up guy. Might be a bad decision for the club. But we're talking about a situation where you're feeling misty-eyed for a guy who's turning down a five million dollar base salary because it is a ****ing insult to him. Five million dollars. And he's not hitting 97-mph Josh Beckett fastballs or spearing Curtis Granderson laser beams. He's not doing something that only a select few hundred human beings have the physical and mental capacity to do. He's choosing what order to write down names in a lineup (sometimes poorly). He's deciding when to put a relief pitcher in a game (often incorrectly).
Source

[wexy]

Posted: 10/19/07 at 3:57pm

They're bringing back Billy Martin. Experienced and Dead. A good combination.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/19/07 at 6:01pm

Martin is tanned & rested & ready to go.

[Carl Magnum]

Posted: 10/19/07 at 6:08pm

I lost my respect for him when he actually went to the negotiation meeting. All about the money Joe? Good riddance, time to find someone who can actually help the team WIN playoff games.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 10/19/07 at 6:09pm

I will take the job for a million.

I hear Bobby Valentine is in the running. This would shake the team up.