So, the opening scene from tonight's episode helped me discover the slow-motion playback button on my DVR.
The booty dance was nice. Patrick's HIV paranoia was irritating.
Irritating and so overwritten.
If Augustin mixed GHB with alcohol, shouldn't someone have taken him to the hospital?
I'm not a doctor, but I believe it is possible he will die of respiratory failure before the next episode.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
Can anyone translate what Agustin said to Richie?
Patrick's innocence is certainly annoying -- during that first tense scene in the office when Tovey gets all paranoid I was yelling at the screen for Patrick to get his resume together and get the f*ck out of there. But I can see why he's hanging in there, Tovey's character is certainly leading him on -- whether for good or ill is yet to be seen.
I liked Dom and Lynn together, but it seems a little odd for Lynn to expect Dom to share details about his extra-curricular activities, odd at least in that it seems that Dom wasn't expecting it. Surely that kind of thing would be one of the things set up when two people set up an open relationship, but these guys aren't known for handling this kind of thing (or anything, frankly) terribly sensibly.
Agustin is getting hateful, isn't he?
Patrick's innocence has taken a distinctive 'head injury' turn in the last two episodes. I watched this episode right after watching Groff's Spring Awakening co-star, John Gallagher, Jr., on an episode of SVU playing a developmentally delayed victim/perp, and I was struck by the similarities in their performances. It's become unbearable and I may have officially been tipped over into the 'hate-watch' camp.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Welcome! Come join me in my thread. Not that I've watched this later one because life is short and all that.
I was supportive about the show last season, but it's starting to get that moldy-around-the-corners feel that Queer As Folk had: a bunch of aging gay writers mis-applying issues and attitudes and conflicts of a previous generation onto supposedly contemporary characters.
The Home-in-Virginia thing was the first tip-off--that "secret shorthand" seemed even 1950s or 1960s. (So secret that no one I know had ever heard it used.)
Patrick's HIV paranoia also feels very pre-cocktail. And Lynn didn't seem liberated in his questioning of Dom. He seemed voyeuristic and creepy.
Souldn't these boys be talking about PrEP?
My bff, who is also 40, texted me indignantly about the Solid Gold reference, which he pointed out was cancelled in '88 when Patrick was 4!
Same thing with Garbage Pail Kids...it's weird seeing a 29 year old character appropriating my childhood. Kween, for someone so precocious, you sure seem like you sure be wearing a helmet to keep from doing more damage.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
yes, YES, YES PJ and Robbie. I was last in SF in the early 2000s and the guys there were over AIDS obsessiveness and worry back then.
These characters always made TV show references that seemed before their time.
And then there's the bed-bug-obsessed Asian which...PLASTIC SUIT????
Okay. I was disappointed with this last episode. Their is no way someone can be as naive and clueless as Patrick.
It is beyond annoying...and believable.
Agustin is just getting to be a bigger douche bag with every episode.
Ugh...Hopefully next episode will redeem the show (in my eyes)..if not then I'm just tuning it out.
"I liked Dom and Lynn together, but it seems a little odd for Lynn to expect Dom to share details about his extra-curricular activities, odd at least in that it seems that Dom wasn't expecting it. Surely that kind of thing would be one of the things set up when two people set up an open relationship, but these guys aren't known for handling this kind of thing (or anything, frankly) terribly sensibly. "
It really seemed like it should have been covered from the start--but obviously Lynn and Dom suck at communicating (I guess this could be said of most of the characters...) They shorthanded this with the way Dom keeps on trying to bring up Lynn's past, very awkwardly, and Lynn obviously wants to stay pretty quiet on it though he has no qualms about discussing current hook ups.
I actually kinda liked the episode. LOL I have a friend who, while I think for the most part he seems less naive than Patrick, does go into HIV panic whenever he has a rash or anything. Unlike Patrick he gets tested more often than anyone I know--but it does seem that he obsesses over it when really something else is bothering him, sorta as a distraction.
Did I miss a mention of my childhood faves, the Garbage Patch Kids? *confused* For the record, apparently Patrick is meant to be 34 or so--even if Groff is 29. Not that it makes a huge difference.
(Granted, I do give it bonus points for PSB's Thursday on the end credits, and Kevin's mention of that hysterical Take That video which a number of my UK friends do have fond childhood memories of... So perhaps I'm just easy to please.)
I didn't take Doris' comment when she was called a hag as a total freak out, as someone here said, but more of her usual attitude. Still, I did find it amusing when Augustin complained about how rude she was later, and Patrick, rather poorly, tried to play along.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
"I have a friend who, while I think for the most part he seems less naive than Patrick, does go into HIV panic whenever he has a rash or anything."
Make sure he knows about PrEP. If he's taking risks that make him uncomfortable he should be on it and if he's not but just indulging obsessiveness, a sit down with his doctor to discuss PrEP might just bring his obsessing to an end.
PreP (from the admittedly little research I've done,) has not been approved by Health Canada although there are apparently ways around that. Which is idiotic, but I guess that's another thread. I admit that it would be a good fit for him because the worry he gets (and to the best of my knowledge he is, at least mostly, pretty safe and sane about sex,) affects him so heavily it would be a way to put some of that at ease.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Maybe he could keep himself busy by doing some activism on the issue. And you could help him.
British Columbia could be the first jurisdiction in Canada to make PrEP available
Well we are both in BC... Thanks for the link--very much appreciated (and something I was unaware about.)
I enjoyed episode 2 and am looking forward to episode 3.
I really liked the episode, too- speaking as someone who, in college, got pneumonia within two weeks of finishing a course about HIV/AIDS and had a breakdown. All of my friends are somewhere on the HIV and STD paranoia spectrums.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
But looking is supposed to take place now, right? And in San Francisco?
Presumably. But I was only in school three years ago.
I actually don't personally know anyone in my age bracket on PrEP.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
That's interesting to know. I still find it hard to swallow that 29 year olds in San Francisco today wouldn't be as blasé as they were about it 15 years ago. PrEP was only approved in 2012, and even if we're lead to believe that Patrick has worked and gone out drinking in San Francisco and the rest of the time he spent playing board games. it seems like asking him to have a 1991 HIV panic is a bit much.
I didn't find terribly unreasonable- heightened perhaps, sure, but not totally unreasonable at all.
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