Madonna's MDNA Album & Singles Chat — Page 14

Well Madonna's "bundled" editions as has been pointed out again just now by billboard meant paying the iTunes price for the album on top of the ticket price--so it's arguable if that's more cheating or less than Gaga's 99cents thing. Both of course ensured their hard core fans would have to buy it again anyway as neither released the deluxe editions this.

Regardless, I *think* the deal is about percentage not numbers. Gaga had an 84% drop from week 1 to 2. Madonna had an 87% (I think). I hope nobody was trying to argue Gaga sold less... Follow? Either way I believe drops are usually more in the 40% - 60% range for hit albums, so anyone using this info to say it's a good thing is silly. :) I guess the point only is Madonna beat Gaga's record of percentage drop full stop.

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I think the simple fact is that after 12 studio albums Madonna did a tour bundle (as did Bon Jovi etc), these are artists who dont sell as big as they do. And Gaga sold her 2nd album for 99 cents for reasons i still dont understand. Both had huge drops after the initial release, and it was to be expected. Even i purchased Gaga's album at that first week price and i hate her.

Both artists are clearly more interested in the stats (look they got another number one album) than the actual money they make from the album.

I keep reading this daft article from the notorious Madonna hater in Forbes saying that bundling the album with the concert tickets means she cheated and should have gone in the chart at number 2. What he (and some on here) fail to realise is that if she had not done the bundle (which lets say Forbes is right and it accounted for 180 thousand copies meaning she sold 170 thousand) she would have sold more than the 170 thousand she sold this time. Many people who got the album with the ticket would have gone out and purchased the ticket, even if only say 40 thousand of the 180 thousand actually went out and purchased the album that would still put her ahead of Ritchie and made her number one.

All this bashing her for doing the tour bundle (which also you did not get an album with each ticket, it was a package album, one i did not choose) but what about the artists who have done it before, why did nothing get mentioned then? Because it's Madonna and it's another way to pull her down.

The album has done what it needed to do, it's gone to number one in over 30 countries around the world and she got the headlines. The album is a great album, it's helping sell the tour and got her some of the best reviews she has had in years.

Did everyone jump on Gaga when she had such a huge drop (84 percent)? no

oh and Carlos, you are a little late to the party aren't you dear

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I wonder if she is gonna turn around and do TV appearances.
But then again- the tour starts soon.


Lionel Richie has a special on CBS or NBC coming up.

I think this 2nd week drop was expected...of course.

Album sales are up in general from last year.

It's funny that both Madonna and Lady Gaga have the highest 2nd week sales drop in the chart history.

The album drop is better explained in this new Billboard article.

It is a fair look at the situation.

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/madonna-tops-lady-gaga-for-biggest-2nd-week-1006725152.story?utm_source=most_recent

Agreed.


she did recently tweet about 'gagging to do SNL' and would love to do a skit with Wiig and Lola. superfans set up a FB page and it's making the rounds.

that would be a smart gig- she should close the season right before the tour starts.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Madonna-to-host-SNL-we-hope/122719017756129

Updated On: 4/11/12 at 12:54 PM

I don't believe a petition is necessary, although they always seem to work for Corine, so what do I know?

I think if Madonna wanted to do the show, they would say, "Okay, when would you like to come on?"

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Here's the article on the writer: http://mymdna.com/exclusive-our-interview-with-girl-gone-wild-writer-jenson-vaughan/

I think it's obvious which tracks Madge did have some more lyrical input in.

If Madonna is smart she will never, ever do another SNL walk-on again. She's far too self-conscious and not quick enough on her feet to improvise. Years earlier, she was hilarious on the Coffee Talk sketch when Roseanne hosted and some meeskite from Brooklyn dropped in to surprise them all, but something tells me they rehearsed her to within an inch of her life. But she's been too busy to rehearse since before she presented at the Tonys.

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Yes, but after selling three times as many copies, which I think is the part you're not facing. I mean, I think that's the natural order of things, a young talent sparking with creativity really OUGHT to be outselling a legacy artist by three times, even if said legacy artist wasn't just phoning it in.

I'm just surprised at how passssssive the mythology of this album is shaping up to be. Remember when Madonna was the can-do go-getter multi-tasking busy type A woman who had it all? This time around she's too bizzzzzzzy to do any promotion at allllllll, the huge drop in sales was totally expeccccccccted. This underperforming was in the plan all alonnnnnnng! When the tour doesn't sell out every date, what is going to be the word on that? Oh, we never expected it to sell ouuuuuuuut!! Everything is going exactly as we knew it would even though we never said anything about it before! The good thing is we can report huge dollar amounts brought in because of the exorbitant ticket prices ("What do I see in the first ten rows? INDUSTRY, Freddie, INDUSTRYYYYYYY!").

Everything about this, from the lackadaisical barely-there presence of Madonna on the recording to the "we knew nothing was going to work so we didn't even TRY HARD!" excuses is just surprising to me. It all reminds me of the old Bette Midler line: "Why botherrrrrrrrrr?"

I guarantee you this, and mark my words, in three or four years when she has to put her name on some sort of recording to honor her contract, she will tell interviewers she wasn't really that fond of MDNA from the start. Mark my words. Then it will be safe for her fans to notice that it's not very good without feeling they're betraying her.

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There are 88 keys on that piano. That m****er f***er knows two.

Why bahthuh?

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Updated On: 4/12/12 at 10:09 AM

To be fair, I didn't read very carefully what others were saying about Girls Gone Wild and if you recall, I waited until I could hear the album in its entirety while giving it my undivided attention through a pair of superior headphones. And, frankly, I wish Madonna had given the album her undivided attention, because that was the first thing that hit me, it all sounded as if she couldn't care less. But that's fine, once the tour gets going there's a really good chance MDNA will go gold. Finally.

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hmmm.. don't most people buy tickets online? and in pre-sales? and where is this article coming from? A credible source??? This smells like that Forbes magazine writer (ex- Fox reporter, Roger Friedman) who loves reporting/creating every financial loss Madonna has ever since she went anti-Bush during 'American Life'. Negative nelly.