NYC: Congestion Pricing Passes- Page 2

[Roscoe]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 2:56pm

The big problem is that this will force more people to use the already overcrowded and underfunded and undermaintained mass transit system.

Of course, this doesn't affect Bloomberg, as he doesn't significantly rely on the subway to get around town. That bogus gesture he makes of riding the train downtown everyday is as far as it goes.

[CJR]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 2:57pm

Trains to CT stop running at 1:23am. Granted I'm not far into CT, but it hinders me if I'm staying later, which I usually am.

Oh yes and if you get on that last train, what should be a 35 or 40 minute trip is over an hour and a half.

but when it comes to congestion pricing, someone in your situation is not the target.

That may very well be true -- but then someone in my situation suffers.

[george95]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 2:58pm

What's bogus about Bloomberg riding the Lexington Ave line is that there is a local stop right at the corner of his block on the UWS, but he has an SUV drive him a few blocks away to the express train stop. How about that?

Posted: 4/1/08 at 3:00pm

I hate to keep quarreling, but those CNN stats are inconceivable.

Perhaps we can agree on one thing- more people should take public transit.

[Jane2]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 3:04pm

Whatever side of this issue you're on, the fact remains there are too many vehicles in the city. How is this solved? I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that even with the $8 charge, there will be just as many cars here as there are now. The surcharge won't make a dent in the traffic, but I hope it helps somewhere!

[Roscoe]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 3:07pm

And it isn't like anyone with any sense really believes that the $8 per vehicle is going to actually find its way to the MTA.

And even if by some miracle it actually did, that the MTA would use it to make anything like a noticeable improvement.

And even if by some miracle the MTA decided to make a noticeable improvement for passengers, it won't be in the lifetime of any current passengers.

If the MTA can find a way to screw us all, it will.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 3:12pm

It seems to me that the city is trying for more congestion. Look at what they did to Broadway below Canal. The put up bus islands, limiting it to 2 lanes of traffic, one lane for buses only. Create congestion then charge people to bring their cars in... seems like a plan!

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 6:00pm

The MTA admits the subways are overcrowded now. This should help a lot. MTA employees can be downright nasty & full of themselves. Now with all this extra $$ going to mass transit (hee hee), the union will not only ask for the moon & the stars in contract talks( which they always do) but the galaxies known & not known to man along with the black hole.

Parking lots & restaurants will be hurt along with almost everyone. Prices will rise. Now that Mayor Mike has shoved this down our throats this will go down as the most hurtful to the city since Mayor Lindsay let city workers use their last year salary, including overtime, to be used in calculating their pension

Naturally, the lines are forming for those who will be exempt. So much for everyone feeling the pain.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 6:29pm

"Naturally, the lines are forming for those who will be exempt."

Oh brother! You know it's true. I'm sure exemptions have already been made even before the pricing passed.

[winston89]

Posted: 4/1/08 at 7:42pm

My understanding from what I read in the times is this. That they plan to take out this tax from your toll. So, if your paying 8 bucks for a toll into the city and the congestion tax is 8 bucks then you only end up paying the 8 bucks once.

If that is the case then it won't hurt any of the drivers who are currently driving into the city. Only because as far as they are concerned they won't be paying anymore then they currently are. Which would mean that they don't have any incentive to not drive their cars into the city.

Keep in mind one thing. That Shelly Silver isn't a fan of this. Considering the fact that he is a big player this could really shape out if this gets passed or not.