Oscars: that was an awards show?
#3
Posted: 3/8/10 at 7:20am
Howard Stern was right: gay men got it all wrong last night, the music, the women's dresses and hair, and the choreography.
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#4
Posted: 3/8/10 at 7:32am
I may be in the minority, but I am SO tired of Neil Patrick Harris. Yes, he's extremely talented but so overexposed the past year...and you can tell it's starting to go to his head.
#5
Posted: 3/8/10 at 8:06am
I liked NPH, just thought the song was eh. And how nice it was for Gaby to hear wonderful things said about her by Oprah. I thought that was very touching.
Agree though, this was one helluva snoozefest. Bad timing and sound.
Agree though, this was one helluva snoozefest. Bad timing and sound.
#6
Posted: 3/8/10 at 8:34am
Bea Arthur and Farrah Fawcett were left off the 'In Memoriam' segment. Though both were primarily TV stars, each had significant enough film credits to warrant inclusion, especially considering they mentioned Michael Jackson.
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#7
Posted: 3/8/10 at 8:39am
I respect Marc Shaiman, Adam Shankman, and Neil Patrick Harris. That being said, I thought the opening number was out of place. NPH's appearance made it seem as if he were the host. Not only was the number out of place, but he was out of place as well.
Also out of place: the street dance styled performance for the nominated Scores. While out of context it could have been enjoyable, to throw that in there is just bizarre.
Underused: Alec Baldwin and Steve Martin. Their opening monologue of "Oh look who's here!" was repetitive and tiresome. The one-liners spoken in their introductions in the rest of the show were better.
The IN MEMORIUM segment does not need a live singer. It becomes about him rather than those we've lost. It has always been more prestigious and more emotional to have movie scores play during the video tribute.
Getting on the right track was the video segment on Horror films.
Something fun I didn't mind was Ben Stiller coming out in an Avatar costume.
The decision to not have the nominated songs perform was probably the worst one regarding the entire ceremony.
Overall, I was very disappointed in the ceremony.
In closing: PAGING BILLY CRYSTAL!!!
His opening video segment is genius. He makes the evening about the MOVIES NOMINATED using humor at its best! This is followed by a grand entrance and then his musical number! This sets the tone perfect for the rest of the evening! Follow the rest of the evening up with the IN MEMORIUM tribute, nominated song performances, an appropriate dance segment to the nominated scores (my favorite was when Cirque du Soliel performed...), more Billy Crystal one-liners, and perhaps a video tribute to a film genre or field of moviemaking.
Also out of place: the street dance styled performance for the nominated Scores. While out of context it could have been enjoyable, to throw that in there is just bizarre.
Underused: Alec Baldwin and Steve Martin. Their opening monologue of "Oh look who's here!" was repetitive and tiresome. The one-liners spoken in their introductions in the rest of the show were better.
The IN MEMORIUM segment does not need a live singer. It becomes about him rather than those we've lost. It has always been more prestigious and more emotional to have movie scores play during the video tribute.
Getting on the right track was the video segment on Horror films.
Something fun I didn't mind was Ben Stiller coming out in an Avatar costume.
The decision to not have the nominated songs perform was probably the worst one regarding the entire ceremony.
Overall, I was very disappointed in the ceremony.
In closing: PAGING BILLY CRYSTAL!!!
His opening video segment is genius. He makes the evening about the MOVIES NOMINATED using humor at its best! This is followed by a grand entrance and then his musical number! This sets the tone perfect for the rest of the evening! Follow the rest of the evening up with the IN MEMORIUM tribute, nominated song performances, an appropriate dance segment to the nominated scores (my favorite was when Cirque du Soliel performed...), more Billy Crystal one-liners, and perhaps a video tribute to a film genre or field of moviemaking.
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#8
Posted: 3/8/10 at 8:53am
The annual "worst Oscars show ever" thread! I was wondering who was going to start it this year. My money was on JohnBoy2.
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#9
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:22am
My friend's father, who was a well known actor with a long resume, was also left out of the memoriam segment. It seems that they had so many deaths, that they only featured the very famous. I think they could have mentioned everyone's death instead of having that dismal nonsensical dance routine.
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#10
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:28am
Overall, I didn't think it was much better or worse than any Oscar ceremony. There were some blunders and some nice moments.
BIGGEST MISTAKES:
Opening with Neil Patrick Harris, who looked slick, over it, and managed to sound bad. He was shrill and off-key for most of the number. Not much of a notch above Rob Lowe, and that takes some doing.
THE DEAD REEL:
We didn't need a "star" singer pulling focus from those who were being honored. I'm not sure why people are upset that Fawcett and Arthur weren't included. Neither made a hugely memorable film appearance (Fawcett came closer with Extremities and The Appostle), or even made that many films at all. Although they included Michael Jackson which was a mistake. The Wiz is no reason to celebrate him on celluloid.
The dancing film scores ... another confusing and distracting moment, like the Dead Reel. Why celebrate these scores by "outshining" the music with exciting choreography? I thought the dancers were terrific, but it had nothing to do with honoring film scores. The minute the audience started applauding in the middle of a segment, I knew it was a huge mistake. Next year, I'm hoping they'll have some of the Food Network stars on stage to COOK during the presentations for Best Score. Sheesh! It would have been better to prepare short films on each of the composers working on their films. Or to show scenes from the movies while the isolated music tracks were playing. If that's too boring for this awards show, then don't feature them! But don't "cover them up" either. It's insulting.
Playing "I Am Woman" when Bigelow left the stage. Wow, that was totally wrong. I'm glad Lee Daniels didn't win, or we might have heard the Theme from Shaft or Shortnin' Bread or Swing Low, Sweet Chariot. It was a classless, clueless moment.
Those endless Best Actor and Actress "eulogies." Why the hell did we need to hear Michelle Pfeiffer going on and on AND ON about Jeff Bridges in The Fabulous Baker Boys? Good GOD. And then Tom Hanks didn't even get to create two seconds of tension before he ripped open the biggest envelope of the evening and rattled off the Best Pic winner. What an unfortunate fizzle, at the end!
I was pissed that we didn't get to see Lauren Bacall and Roger Corman get their Lifetime Achievement Awards on stage. It was obvious how much the Academy cares about the "old guard." They'd rather sweep it under the table for "new, fresh, current, and MARKETABLE films!" What they don't realize is that the more they ignore the old Hollywood stuff, the more they lose their own reputation. The Oscars mean less and less each year without their own history. Especially "living history" like Miss Bacall and Mr. Corman.
ON THE POSITIVE SIDE:
I liked the hosts quite a bit. Baldwin and Martin were both funny and stayed out of the way, which is the best thing they could have done.
The set looked beautiful in HD.
I loved not having too many songs or tributes, and despite the fact that there were ten nominated films, I didn't feel that those segments dragged at all.
The clips used for the pictures and their acting nominees were very well done. Great editing jobs, highlighting scenes and moments that actually made cohesive sense and also made me want to see some of these films. In years past, they've shown some tearful moment out of context that made absolutely no sense as a stand-alone showcase. They did much better this year.
Nice speeches by Bullock, Mo'Nique, and a few others. I don't fault the show for cutting people off ... although Jeff Bridges was having a senior moment at the mic and decided to ramble away about his parents and Sea Hunt and God knows what else. I'm glad he won, but the dude needs a script in front of him.
ALL IN ALL:
It didn't suck, some of it was good, and some of it was bad.
Per usual.
BIGGEST MISTAKES:
Opening with Neil Patrick Harris, who looked slick, over it, and managed to sound bad. He was shrill and off-key for most of the number. Not much of a notch above Rob Lowe, and that takes some doing.
THE DEAD REEL:
We didn't need a "star" singer pulling focus from those who were being honored. I'm not sure why people are upset that Fawcett and Arthur weren't included. Neither made a hugely memorable film appearance (Fawcett came closer with Extremities and The Appostle), or even made that many films at all. Although they included Michael Jackson which was a mistake. The Wiz is no reason to celebrate him on celluloid.
The dancing film scores ... another confusing and distracting moment, like the Dead Reel. Why celebrate these scores by "outshining" the music with exciting choreography? I thought the dancers were terrific, but it had nothing to do with honoring film scores. The minute the audience started applauding in the middle of a segment, I knew it was a huge mistake. Next year, I'm hoping they'll have some of the Food Network stars on stage to COOK during the presentations for Best Score. Sheesh! It would have been better to prepare short films on each of the composers working on their films. Or to show scenes from the movies while the isolated music tracks were playing. If that's too boring for this awards show, then don't feature them! But don't "cover them up" either. It's insulting.
Playing "I Am Woman" when Bigelow left the stage. Wow, that was totally wrong. I'm glad Lee Daniels didn't win, or we might have heard the Theme from Shaft or Shortnin' Bread or Swing Low, Sweet Chariot. It was a classless, clueless moment.
Those endless Best Actor and Actress "eulogies." Why the hell did we need to hear Michelle Pfeiffer going on and on AND ON about Jeff Bridges in The Fabulous Baker Boys? Good GOD. And then Tom Hanks didn't even get to create two seconds of tension before he ripped open the biggest envelope of the evening and rattled off the Best Pic winner. What an unfortunate fizzle, at the end!
I was pissed that we didn't get to see Lauren Bacall and Roger Corman get their Lifetime Achievement Awards on stage. It was obvious how much the Academy cares about the "old guard." They'd rather sweep it under the table for "new, fresh, current, and MARKETABLE films!" What they don't realize is that the more they ignore the old Hollywood stuff, the more they lose their own reputation. The Oscars mean less and less each year without their own history. Especially "living history" like Miss Bacall and Mr. Corman.
ON THE POSITIVE SIDE:
I liked the hosts quite a bit. Baldwin and Martin were both funny and stayed out of the way, which is the best thing they could have done.
The set looked beautiful in HD.
I loved not having too many songs or tributes, and despite the fact that there were ten nominated films, I didn't feel that those segments dragged at all.
The clips used for the pictures and their acting nominees were very well done. Great editing jobs, highlighting scenes and moments that actually made cohesive sense and also made me want to see some of these films. In years past, they've shown some tearful moment out of context that made absolutely no sense as a stand-alone showcase. They did much better this year.
Nice speeches by Bullock, Mo'Nique, and a few others. I don't fault the show for cutting people off ... although Jeff Bridges was having a senior moment at the mic and decided to ramble away about his parents and Sea Hunt and God knows what else. I'm glad he won, but the dude needs a script in front of him.
ALL IN ALL:
It didn't suck, some of it was good, and some of it was bad.
Per usual.
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#11
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:31am
Besty, that is EXACTLY how I would summarize it also.
Did anyone else love the "The Jerk" reference in the opening? Who else thinks it went totally over Gabby's head?
Did anyone else love the "The Jerk" reference in the opening? Who else thinks it went totally over Gabby's head?
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#12
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:32am
Yeah, I didn't understand what that dance routine was all about.
I'm also going to agree that Neil Patrick Harris being everywhere is starting to get on my nerves. My dad actually didn't know who he was until I mentioned Doogie Houser. But, him as the opening instead of utilizing the hosts was odd.
My question is, was George Clooney just playing around with Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin when they were telling jokes in the beginning or was he really mad and didn't want them saying anything about him? If it was the latter, the man needs to lighten up.
And although some people were left off of the memorial thing, it was a lot better than last years where they didn't bother to put it though so anyone at home could see it very well.
I'm also going to agree that Neil Patrick Harris being everywhere is starting to get on my nerves. My dad actually didn't know who he was until I mentioned Doogie Houser. But, him as the opening instead of utilizing the hosts was odd.
My question is, was George Clooney just playing around with Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin when they were telling jokes in the beginning or was he really mad and didn't want them saying anything about him? If it was the latter, the man needs to lighten up.
And although some people were left off of the memorial thing, it was a lot better than last years where they didn't bother to put it though so anyone at home could see it very well.
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#13
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:34am
Shame on the choreographer. the music and the dancing were on two different planets. I never knew they did pop and lock to "UP."
None of the music was hip hop but all the dancing was. The dancers were frantically running jumping and sliding all over the stage while the music was mostly ballad-like.
I know they're trying for a young demographic but please don't insult my intelligence.
None of the music was hip hop but all the dancing was. The dancers were frantically running jumping and sliding all over the stage while the music was mostly ballad-like.
I know they're trying for a young demographic but please don't insult my intelligence.
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#14
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:35am
Besty, thanks for summing up my feelings exactly!
Agree, agree!
Agree, agree!
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#15
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:41am
"And then Tom Hanks didn't even get to create two seconds of tension before he ripped open the biggest envelope of the evening and rattled off the Best Pic winner. What an unfortunate fizzle, at the end!"
Hanks is a terrible presenter. He creates no suspense at all. When he presented the Best Actress Oscar in 1995 and 1996, he rushed through the thing to. Granted, he read the names and their respective films, but he quickly opened the envelope and rattled off:
"AndtheOscargoestoJessicaLangeforBlueSky."
"AndtheOscargoestoSusanSarandonforDeadManWalking."
No pause whatsoever.
Hanks is a terrible presenter. He creates no suspense at all. When he presented the Best Actress Oscar in 1995 and 1996, he rushed through the thing to. Granted, he read the names and their respective films, but he quickly opened the envelope and rattled off:
"AndtheOscargoestoJessicaLangeforBlueSky."
"AndtheOscargoestoSusanSarandonforDeadManWalking."
No pause whatsoever.
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#16
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:44am
I don't blame Tom Hanks for not creating suspense - he was trying to get the final award in before the clock ticked over into a new day (on the East coast). While the fizzle at the end was indeed unfortunate, as Besty says, that had to do with the rush to get the award presented than by anything Tom did or didn't do.
In my opinion.
In my opinion.
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#17
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:45am
I agree with besty, except for Fawcett and Arthur.
There was oscar talk for Extremities and Arthur was nom'd for a GG...both had bigger careers on the small screen, but still had memorable films.
I am a big Hughes fan, but I dont understand his seperate tribute.
Sandra deserves an Emmy for her acceptance speech. She was pretty funny on Barb's preshow too! She was the highlight.
There was oscar talk for Extremities and Arthur was nom'd for a GG...both had bigger careers on the small screen, but still had memorable films.
I am a big Hughes fan, but I dont understand his seperate tribute.
Sandra deserves an Emmy for her acceptance speech. She was pretty funny on Barb's preshow too! She was the highlight.
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#18
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:48am
doodle, all Bea's GG noms were for TV (MAUDE and GOLDEN GIRLS).
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#19
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:48am
doodle, I agree with you about the Hughes tribute.
And, could have done without all the horror movie clips.
The show needed a big Edit button!
Loved Sandra. Was rooting for her to win. It was her night!
And, could have done without all the horror movie clips.
The show needed a big Edit button!
Loved Sandra. Was rooting for her to win. It was her night!
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#20
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:51am
Bea was nomm'd for supporting actress for "Mame".
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#21
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:52am
Well, then, Doodle, should we all look forward to the Grammy tributes to John Travolta and Shelly Fabares when they die? They both had number one hit records ... but I wouldn't call them "recording artists."
Fawcett made a couple of good films (two, exactly), and Arthur made none (despite a Golden Globe nomination for Mame). It's not even the same thing as someone like Haing S. Ngor who made one film and got an Oscar for it.
I get upset when they leave out some of the character actors who turned in consistently memorable performances in (sometimes) a hundred movies, and they get left out.
So, no, I don't feel bad about Fawcett and Arthur. If they had left out Kathryn Grayson or Jean Simmons (which they didn't), I would have been pissed.
Fawcett made a couple of good films (two, exactly), and Arthur made none (despite a Golden Globe nomination for Mame). It's not even the same thing as someone like Haing S. Ngor who made one film and got an Oscar for it.
I get upset when they leave out some of the character actors who turned in consistently memorable performances in (sometimes) a hundred movies, and they get left out.
So, no, I don't feel bad about Fawcett and Arthur. If they had left out Kathryn Grayson or Jean Simmons (which they didn't), I would have been pissed.
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#22
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:54am
I enjoyed the horror movie clips!
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#23
Posted: 3/8/10 at 9:59am
I'm thinking that Michael Jackson got included in the tribute thing mostly for the use of his music in film. I went to his IMDB page because I was just curious about what he has contributed to film, besides playing the Scarecrow in "The Wiz," and that was what I could come up with. My parents were questioning him over Farrah Fawcett.
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#24
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:00am
I thought it was well meaning but muddled.
Edward Scissorhands?
And in the into they said horror hasn't been represented at the Oscars since the Exorcist then proceeded to show copious clips from Silence Of The Lambs and The Sixth Sense.
But I'm being churlish. Being a horror fan it was exciting to see the tribute at all.
Although is did seem apropos of nothing. Was it b/c they wanted to give Taylor Lautner and Kristen Stewart a reason to appear and Twilight has vampires and werewolves?
Edward Scissorhands?
And in the into they said horror hasn't been represented at the Oscars since the Exorcist then proceeded to show copious clips from Silence Of The Lambs and The Sixth Sense.
But I'm being churlish. Being a horror fan it was exciting to see the tribute at all.
Although is did seem apropos of nothing. Was it b/c they wanted to give Taylor Lautner and Kristen Stewart a reason to appear and Twilight has vampires and werewolves?
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#25
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:06am
I enjoyed the horror movie clips but didn't understand why they included a horror movie tribute in this year's Oscars. A Sci-fi tribute would have been more fitting considering District 9 and Avatar were both nominated for Best Pic.
I really enjoyed Martin and Baldwin...and thought the Paranormal Activity spoof was hilarious.
I really enjoyed Martin and Baldwin...and thought the Paranormal Activity spoof was hilarious.
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