Oscars: that was an awards show? — Page 2
#27
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:08am
Here are some others who were arguably more deserving of a mention:
Lionel Jeffries
Zelda Rubenstein
Phil Harris
Gene Barry
Harve Presnell
Arnold Stang
Collin Wilcox
Richard Todd
Kathleen Byron
Olga San Juan
Lionel Jeffries
Zelda Rubenstein
Phil Harris
Gene Barry
Harve Presnell
Arnold Stang
Collin Wilcox
Richard Todd
Kathleen Byron
Olga San Juan
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#28
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:09am
Tazber-you are probably right about Taylor Lautner and Kristen Stewart. I mean, why would they let Miley Cyrus appear at all? They used the three of them to appeal to a younger crowd.
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#29
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:13am
It was NOT a memorable evening for me, except for Sandra's acceptance speech. She is what Hollywood seems to lack nowadays...CLASS!
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#30
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:14am
Haven't they done tributes to Westerns and Gangster movies, etc., in the past?
I thought it was just another "genre tribute" this year, but I may be wrong. It is funny how they included things like Jaws and Edward Scissorhands, neither of which I would call "horror" movies.
Although I would have included Pan's Labyrinth. And that was recent, and honored by the Academy.
I thought it was just another "genre tribute" this year, but I may be wrong. It is funny how they included things like Jaws and Edward Scissorhands, neither of which I would call "horror" movies.
Although I would have included Pan's Labyrinth. And that was recent, and honored by the Academy.
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#31
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:29am
The fact they included clips from LEPRECHAUN and not Friday the 13th is what made me roll my eyes at the tribute.
Also, I'm sorry but without having that last few seconds of suspense before the Best Picture winner is announced to give you the chance to "root for your movie" is unforgivable. I wasn't sure if it had just won or if he was starting to read off the list of nominees again. Very confusing!
Also, I'm sorry but without having that last few seconds of suspense before the Best Picture winner is announced to give you the chance to "root for your movie" is unforgivable. I wasn't sure if it had just won or if he was starting to read off the list of nominees again. Very confusing!
#32
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:38am
While I wouldnt have been upset with any of those character actors being part of the tribute, I dont think Ms. Rubinstein's film resume is so much longer than Arthur's or Fawcett's to make her more deserving.
I loved that they did a tribute to horror, but agree that the selected clips were confusing.
I loved that they did a tribute to horror, but agree that the selected clips were confusing.
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#33
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:46am
I loved the dancing segment. Usually, the choreography is reserved for the song entries, but they went a different route this year and it worked for me. I have no problem with lyrical hip-hop as the genre has been splitting and evolving over the last 25+ years and I'm thrilled to see it featured in this way. It was nice to see some of the So You Think You Can Dance contestants performing on the Oscar stage as well. Like ballet, jazz and modern dance, hip-hop and its various forms has been branching out into other styles of music as a legitimate dance form and finding new means of expression. Well done.
I hate the "eulogies" as well: So and so is not only a world-famous celebrity and filthy rich, but they are also totally awesome and an amazing human being mainly because they are nominated for an Oscar tonight. This one time, in band camp, they did something cute and funny. And they are awesome. And totally compassionate. And awesome. And if they weren't nominated, I would tell you what I really think of them. So thank you so-and-so, for being totally awesome and getting nominated so I could score some incredible camera time on the Oscars since I wasn't asked to present anything.
For me, the only joke from the hosts that landed was the Paranormal Activity bit. That was hilarious. The rest was eh. The opening song looked pretty, but I didn't think the song was especially great. It had some biting moments, but none of the charm of Billy Crystal's classic openings. I just don't think that's something that can be recreated by facsimile and if they want a splashy live opening number, they need to come up with something new.
At least the song entries weren't performed by singers who have absolutely no connection to the film or the material. That was a major step in the right direction.
I hate the "eulogies" as well: So and so is not only a world-famous celebrity and filthy rich, but they are also totally awesome and an amazing human being mainly because they are nominated for an Oscar tonight. This one time, in band camp, they did something cute and funny. And they are awesome. And totally compassionate. And awesome. And if they weren't nominated, I would tell you what I really think of them. So thank you so-and-so, for being totally awesome and getting nominated so I could score some incredible camera time on the Oscars since I wasn't asked to present anything.
For me, the only joke from the hosts that landed was the Paranormal Activity bit. That was hilarious. The rest was eh. The opening song looked pretty, but I didn't think the song was especially great. It had some biting moments, but none of the charm of Billy Crystal's classic openings. I just don't think that's something that can be recreated by facsimile and if they want a splashy live opening number, they need to come up with something new.
At least the song entries weren't performed by singers who have absolutely no connection to the film or the material. That was a major step in the right direction.
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#34
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:50am
"I dont think Ms. Rubinstein's film resume is so much longer than Arthur's or Fawcett's to make her more deserving."
Longer? No. Just iconic and more memorable. And definitely more deserving in the genre of film.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, they missed TWO opportunities to show Zelda---in the Dead Reel and in the Horror tribute.
Nice.
Longer? No. Just iconic and more memorable. And definitely more deserving in the genre of film.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, they missed TWO opportunities to show Zelda---in the Dead Reel and in the Horror tribute.
Nice.
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#35
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:52am
Matt, don't you think that if they're going to have dancers, the music should be in the same tempo?
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#36
Posted: 3/8/10 at 10:58am
Jane, it didn't bother me at all that the dancing was unconventional or showed a fresh, new approach. I actually applaud that (as did the audience).
I thought the choreography was outstanding and unique. A mixture of ballet, tumbling, street dancing, hip-hop, etc. I would love to see a show or film feature dancing like this ... and dancers like this ... with unconventional bodies and styles ... and YES, to music like that.
Something new, for a change.
Just like when Stanley Kubrick first played orchestral, classical music to a sci-fi film in "2001." Everyone gasped and had plenty to say about it. Then just about every sci-fi movie (especially the Star Wars series) relied heavily on this grand, classical-style, orchestral score to add impact. No more Moog synthesizer creepiness.
So, no, I had NO problem seeing a fresh approach at the Oscars.
I just had a problem with them outshining the scores, which were the supposed "stars" of the segment.
I thought the choreography was outstanding and unique. A mixture of ballet, tumbling, street dancing, hip-hop, etc. I would love to see a show or film feature dancing like this ... and dancers like this ... with unconventional bodies and styles ... and YES, to music like that.
Something new, for a change.
Just like when Stanley Kubrick first played orchestral, classical music to a sci-fi film in "2001." Everyone gasped and had plenty to say about it. Then just about every sci-fi movie (especially the Star Wars series) relied heavily on this grand, classical-style, orchestral score to add impact. No more Moog synthesizer creepiness.
So, no, I had NO problem seeing a fresh approach at the Oscars.
I just had a problem with them outshining the scores, which were the supposed "stars" of the segment.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#37
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:02am
I wont beat the horse with you besty, but I still disagree. Fawcett's work in "Extremities" and Arthur's work in "Mame" were more accomplished than Rubinstein's "This house is clean" moment iconic though it was...it still wasnt great acting...but I still think she should've been included as well. If we can hear shenanigans stories about all 10 lead actors we can include all of those who are deserving in the memorial.
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#38
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:09am
Yes, honestly, to show 7 or 8 more faces would have added all of 1 minute to the tribute.
Maybe James Taylor ran out of song. More likely they were focused on showcasing those ten-minute fawning tributes for EACH of the Best Actor and Actress nominees. God, that was painful.
Maybe James Taylor ran out of song. More likely they were focused on showcasing those ten-minute fawning tributes for EACH of the Best Actor and Actress nominees. God, that was painful.
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#39
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:22am
Taz- On "The Jerk" reference, Gabby said she was looking forward to the Oscars because "Jack Donaghy and The Jerk were hosting" so I think she understood it.
Positives:
The montage of super-imposing Baldwin and Martin into the nominated films. I never liked that so I am glad it was gone for once.
Sandy Powell. I don't think she'll ever be nominated again with that speech.
Everything about Gabby Sidibe.
Beautiful set though it seems like it made for terrible acoustics and sound.
Morgan Freeman explaining sound mixing/sound editing. I like that instead of making those nominees feel so small they actually celebrated and explained what their work was about.
I have absolutely no complaints about who won, maybe it was because it was so predictable.
I love Baldwin and Martin as co-hosts but to me they were severely underutilized. Alec loves film and that side was never shown but I guess I watch too much TCM.
The John Hughes tribute. Yes, he totally deserved a tribute.
Lady Kanye, red-headed devil in a purple dress ruining that poor man's speech. It was unexpected and memorable.
Negatives:
Lady Kanye, red-headed devil in a purple dress ruining that poor man's speech. It was just so bizarre, like watching a car accident in slow motion. I looked up the story and she seems like a whack-job.
The opening with the walk-out and the lyrics to the song by Shaiman that NPH nearly salvaged.
I think everybody loved the former winners speaking about their nominees. I could understand how a former/current co-star could be seen as having the same effect but it seemed so long and self-serving. And then in the former case they had one of the people say the winner rather than get another presenter out there.
The dancing to the original scores. Oy.
Tribute to Horror. So many films left out, so many films included that are not horror films by any stretch. Twilight stuck out most.
The deathreel. This has always bothered me that the presentation is like the worst popularity contest imaginable with people clapping louder for the bigger people. I almost wish they just showed the clips in complete silence. There could be music, just as long as it is not a James Taylor cover of The Beatles.
The music director. Oh gawd. The Bigelow incident alone is worth the scorn but just all of these film scores coming out of nowhere to presenters. Major creepy when Zoe and Carrie came out to "Thank Heaven For Little Girls" from Gigi, though that song can be interpreted as creepy by itself.
The acoustics.
I hated Ben Stiller. He actually does seem like a nice person but his stage persona of making it all about him is beyond annoying.
Positives:
The montage of super-imposing Baldwin and Martin into the nominated films. I never liked that so I am glad it was gone for once.
Sandy Powell. I don't think she'll ever be nominated again with that speech.
Everything about Gabby Sidibe.
Beautiful set though it seems like it made for terrible acoustics and sound.
Morgan Freeman explaining sound mixing/sound editing. I like that instead of making those nominees feel so small they actually celebrated and explained what their work was about.
I have absolutely no complaints about who won, maybe it was because it was so predictable.
I love Baldwin and Martin as co-hosts but to me they were severely underutilized. Alec loves film and that side was never shown but I guess I watch too much TCM.
The John Hughes tribute. Yes, he totally deserved a tribute.
Lady Kanye, red-headed devil in a purple dress ruining that poor man's speech. It was unexpected and memorable.
Negatives:
Lady Kanye, red-headed devil in a purple dress ruining that poor man's speech. It was just so bizarre, like watching a car accident in slow motion. I looked up the story and she seems like a whack-job.
The opening with the walk-out and the lyrics to the song by Shaiman that NPH nearly salvaged.
I think everybody loved the former winners speaking about their nominees. I could understand how a former/current co-star could be seen as having the same effect but it seemed so long and self-serving. And then in the former case they had one of the people say the winner rather than get another presenter out there.
The dancing to the original scores. Oy.
Tribute to Horror. So many films left out, so many films included that are not horror films by any stretch. Twilight stuck out most.
The deathreel. This has always bothered me that the presentation is like the worst popularity contest imaginable with people clapping louder for the bigger people. I almost wish they just showed the clips in complete silence. There could be music, just as long as it is not a James Taylor cover of The Beatles.
The music director. Oh gawd. The Bigelow incident alone is worth the scorn but just all of these film scores coming out of nowhere to presenters. Major creepy when Zoe and Carrie came out to "Thank Heaven For Little Girls" from Gigi, though that song can be interpreted as creepy by itself.
The acoustics.
I hated Ben Stiller. He actually does seem like a nice person but his stage persona of making it all about him is beyond annoying.
#40
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:25am
Matt, don't you think that if they're going to have dancers, the music should be in the same tempo?
It depends on the choreography. I honestly didn't find anything inappropriate in the choreography last night or the execution. It was visually exciting and fresh. I can see besty's point about the dancing possibly overpowering the music, but to me, it was about the choreography being inspired by the music, which is how I viewed the segment. Sure they could have gone with film clips, but I thought this was far more interesting and creative. No cheesy costumes trying to represent the films and the characters. The only point that got too literal for me was the big Avatar prayer circle. It really was more about the films' scores and it's influential properties represented in an artistic manner. To me, it was the highlight of the awards program, which has grown rather dusty and stale over the last decade.
It depends on the choreography. I honestly didn't find anything inappropriate in the choreography last night or the execution. It was visually exciting and fresh. I can see besty's point about the dancing possibly overpowering the music, but to me, it was about the choreography being inspired by the music, which is how I viewed the segment. Sure they could have gone with film clips, but I thought this was far more interesting and creative. No cheesy costumes trying to represent the films and the characters. The only point that got too literal for me was the big Avatar prayer circle. It really was more about the films' scores and it's influential properties represented in an artistic manner. To me, it was the highlight of the awards program, which has grown rather dusty and stale over the last decade.
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#41
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:30am
For me, the highlight of the evening was the commercial for Modern Family.
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#42
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:43am
Besty, fresh approach has nothing to do with my beef.
I guess I'm old fashioned in wanting the dancing to have some relationship to the music they are moving to. Of course the audience clapped. I was in a room with dancers as well as others in the industry and we all went ballistic.
I guess I'm old fashioned in wanting the dancing to have some relationship to the music they are moving to. Of course the audience clapped. I was in a room with dancers as well as others in the industry and we all went ballistic.
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#43
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:51am
I thought this was, by far, the WORST Oscars show ever.
I wish I could say there was anything about it I liked. Maybe Stanley Tucci busting Meryl Streep's chops rather than talking about what a radiant presence she has been on the big screen for the last few decades.
All-in-all a total letdown.
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I wish I could say there was anything about it I liked. Maybe Stanley Tucci busting Meryl Streep's chops rather than talking about what a radiant presence she has been on the big screen for the last few decades.
All-in-all a total letdown.
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#44
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:52am
tune in next year for contestants from So You Think You Can Dance doing waltzes to rap!
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#45
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:59am
Im thrilled JH had his own section, that man made a HUGE impact on many lives, and im not just talking about audience, the actors in that room. I loved the seperate section.
Same with the Horror section, its one of the most underated art forms and again gave birth to most celebs in that theatre.
Same with the Horror section, its one of the most underated art forms and again gave birth to most celebs in that theatre.
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#46
Posted: 3/8/10 at 11:59am
I had no problem with Oprah. She told Gabby's story. What else was she supposed to say? This is Gabby's first time out. Oprah pretty much did what everyone else did up there when talking about the nominees.
It was pretty much a boring show across the board. They really need to include performances of the nominated songs next year.
It was pretty much a boring show across the board. They really need to include performances of the nominated songs next year.
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#47
Posted: 3/8/10 at 12:05pm
I enjoyed James Taylor's singing. And Jeff Brdiges' winning. And that was about it. I haven't seen THE HURT LOCKER yet so I have no basis to comment on those wins.
#48
Posted: 3/8/10 at 12:16pm
I'm wondering how a show like the oscars can be less boring. It's so long and includes so many awards that are less interesting than the main ones. What are you going to do?
I actually enjoyed all the stuff that Martin and Baldwin did, and I enjoyed the horror segment. I wish it were much longer.
I actually enjoyed all the stuff that Martin and Baldwin did, and I enjoyed the horror segment. I wish it were much longer.
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#49
Posted: 3/8/10 at 12:23pm
High point: The PARANORMAL ACTIVITY spoof.
Low point: I thought the dance numbers were ouchy.
Low point: I thought the dance numbers were ouchy.
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#50
Oh and here's what was going on with that wierd Best Short Doc moment...
Posted: 3/8/10 at 12:26pm
Oh and here's what was going on with that wierd Best Short Doc moment...
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