Papa John's Pizza Obamacare Hypocrisy — Page 9

She's asking franchise owners and pot smokers from California.

I'm also curious what Abby thinks that uninsured people should do when faced with sudden medical crises and expenses that they cannot afford. People that can afford to feed themselves, but not a sizable medical bill.

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Some people don't get married. Some people are not educated about child planning or contraceptives due to a variety of reasons but mainly ORGANIZED RELIGION being hostile to such things. Some people cannot see their future flash before them, particularly at the behest of the likes of you.

And let's not act like the adoption services are some easy way out let alone an easy, quick decision for the mother to make.

And for somebody who is transfixed by an ideology originally built on free will and individualism, you do like to tell others what to do so it is somehow easy for you and your wallet rather than themselves.

I'm surprised to see she's saying people need to avail themselves of freebies to prevent pregnancy. Especially since she and mom and dad were supporting a candidate who was vowing to cut off funding to it.

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As someone who hires recent college grads once or twice a year, I can tell you exactly why you're unemployed.

Updated On: 11/12/12 at 07:43 PM

One of my small business owner friends just shared the big news! He and his husband are buying a second house in Puerto Vallarta. So much for that pesky Obamacare costing him millions.

She mentioned Planned Parenthood, which is the number one target by Republicans who are "pro-life". (We should call them pro-fetus, but I digress.)

There are 15 Planned Parenthood offices in Oregon. According to USCB, half of the Oregon population is female. So, that's 1,900,000 (give or take) women for only 15 offices. Do the math on that one, honey.

Abby I am trying really hard to treat your "opinions" with respect and to engage you in a discussion but stop changing the subject: NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE 5 Children- I have told you repeatedly I am speaking from my own professional experience. The average number of kids per family on welfare is just under two- the exact same as the general population. And the "welfare mom" popping out kids in order to pump up her Welfare check is as fake as the Welfare Cadillac Queen story in Reagan's day. Another child increases her check by about $35 a month- as one mom bitterly remarked when she found out "that almost pays for diapers."

And YES, the vast majority of women on welfare ARE there because the father (whether her husband or not) left her and is not paying child support. Obviously you have no idea the lengths adult human males will go to NOT support their children. If you want to try to find a way to FORCE dads to pay child support I'd be behind you 100%. As it is, $100 billion a year in child support goes unpaid- almost EXACTLY the amount the USA spends on family and dependent payments. My first day at work, I was in family court listening to a dad petition for a reduction in his child support- he had quit his job and was giving flying lessons (in his private plane), bringing in about $150 a week so he needed to have his Child support reduced from $1450 a week to $45 a week. And things like that WOULD NOT be a part of that $100B a year- he was got the reduction and paid his $180 a month regularly.

Joe, I want to thank you for your considered and extremely enlightening posts. I am learning so much from you, and I appreciate your sharing your experience and knowldege.

It's a topic that I'm woefully undereducated about.

You say so many of these people are single mothers, which I believe, but if you can't afford to have a kid, DON'T HAVE ONE! it's really not hard. There's are so many free contraceptives out there you have to be stupid not to use it if you don't want a child or can't afford one. Planned parenthood gives out free birth control to people who qualify, or at very reduced prices.

Oh you are so full of ****. Your party is ALL for cutting funding to Planned Parenthood. What about the father who dies before birth? Whose a deadbeat who has no income of his own to pay child support? Who ran off after the kid was born and no one knows where he is? Not every mother is content with just handing their child off to the system, especially those who grew up in the system.

That's not the same everywhere. A guy I met at work last month moved here from california and immediately went on food stamps and between he and his roommate they get $500 a month, even though they both make plenty of money to buy their own food, they just choose not to, but they still have plenty of money for weed. That's what he told me, I'm not making this up.

REPORT THEM. The only way to improve the system is to weed out people who are defrauding it.

LOL you clearly have never owned or operated a franchise. But nless any of you guys own a franchise, which you don't, you have absolutely no room to talk about how much they cost, but that's what you guys are good at , talking without knowing all the facts. But they own 5 or 6 Papa Johns.

Oh FUN! Because my parents were close to buying into the Subway franchise of an existing store. Just to buy an already established store was going to cost an excess of $50,000.

Some more FUN! You're actually specific about Papa Johns, who raised their prices, like threatened due to Obama, but two weeks BEFORE the election? Is that about them not being able afford it? Or is it trying to scapegoat Obama to get them some extra money?

And I never said I own a franchise, the people who I know own plenty, and we have heard from them first hand how difficult it is and how there's not as much money to be made as people think. They take the money they make and open new franchises to create more jobs. How many of you do that? They could just pocket it and keep it for themselves, but they don't.

That is complete BULLSH*T! They open more franchises to MAKE MORE MONEY. It just so happens that those places employ people. It's a side effect of the want for more money. You can't own many franchises without having money of your own from other means. Franchising is just another venture for you. A gamble to make more money. If it doesn't work well then, no harm no foul, but if it is a success that means open more! We can get MORE money if we expand!

And people don't need free birth control from planned parenthood, it doesn't cost that much to begin with. You can get it from your doctor for around $20 a month if you have insurance.

And we come full circle.

Updated On: 11/12/12 at 08:26 PM

Aw shucks Reg. I knew nothing about it before I started this job- and that first day I mentioned above was an eye-opener. I still shake my head about that guy forgoing a $150,000 a year job just so he can screw his kids- all in the guise of screwing his dreaded "ex-wife" of course. Sadly I've come to see it again and again and again. A good friend's ex-husband bought a house for his girlfriend (with cash) and then claimed to be too poor to pay any child support. Karma intervened and the GF left him- and kept the house- after three months.

And I do not do the hero work of my co-workers. I merely do events and fundraising to support their work. But my boss feels strongly that I can't speak about our issues without knowing a bit about them- so I took our training and learned what I could. I'm hoping Abby hauls out the old "churches and non-profits should be caring for these people" because I've got PLENTY to say about that too.

I'm only speaking as a gay man, and not a health care professional, but there's really no reason to not use a condom. They're every where. You can buy a pack, but they're available for free in the bars and at the hospitals/clinics.

I understand it's a bit harder for women to afford pills, but the same rule applies for condoms. Women who know they're going to have sex should have their own stash. Either a regular condom or a FC2.

People should take more responsibility when it comes to their sexual health.

Abby should move to China, where she gets to keep one child. Let's hope it's a boy!