Rachel Dolezal, faux black NAACP chapter president — Page 8

"Why don't you seem interesting in responding to the many ways people here have explained to you that it's not the same, or the many articles linked in this thread that explain why it's not the same, but rather you keep re-asking the question because "people" are going to keep asking it?"


But when people say why they think it's not the same thing, it's really just their one opinion. To someone who says that they are "transracial", I'm sure it IS a thing. And yes, people are asking it. It's all over the news today asking about it.

No, actually, I'm not interested in being a pain in the ass.

Look, I am not disagreeing with you about that. My asking about the differences and questions about it are not my saying that I think they're the same things. And when I say that people are discussing it, they are and they are asking what the differences are between this and transgender and other "trans", and those people are not just interested in being a pain in the ass.

And really, I DO thin that there are some valid questions to be asked. Valid because the majority of people don't understand any form of trans. So when they hear about another form of it without understanding the first one they're still trying to figure out, they're going to want to know what the differences, if any, are.

OK. But you understand what I'm saying is that to the general public, there IS, right? I'm talking about the people sitting at home who just recently saw Kims Dad looks like a woman now and now they're hearing this other term about the white lady that wants to be black and both words being used to describe them start with "trans".

SO when I say that there is going to have to be a discussion about it, that's what I mean. It's going to be had because people DO NOT UNDERSTAND the first one, let alone this second one they're starting to hear about now. And it doesn't matter if the second one isn't real or not, they're still hearing about it on the news which makes it real, in a way.

I read an interesting article about 'transracialism'...it's just not exactly what Rachel Dolezal wants it to be:

http://www.thelostdaughters.com/2015/06/transracial-lives-matter-rachel-dolezal.html

I think you're thinking on this, Jordan, is real, real wonky. Being trans (as in, transgender) is actually part of one's identity. It's a coming-out process. Someone who is trans makes the decision to publicly come out as such and then proceed to transition to some degree or another. Some people take hormones and go through numerous surgeries to make their outer bodies comport with what their emotional and psychological make-up demands. I worked with an actor who was born female but who identifies as trans. His name is Lauren. He wishes to be identified by male pronouns, but he doesn't feel the need to transition to present as male. I have a few trans friends who choose not to get all of the surgeries necessary to have the biology of one sex or another. Trans then becomes their identity...not female or male but somewhere along a continuum. There's a reason Facebook has added something like fifty different gender variations to their 'sex' choices. Gender is not binary, and I think when people choose to come out as trans, we should all do our best to honor their truth since they have taken the step to be honest about who they are with the world.

That's the exact thing that didn't happen in the case of Rachel Dolezal (at least, as far as I've read). This is a woman who appropriated a look and culture without being honest about it. She didn't come out as a white woman who was choosing to present as black because that's who she felt she was. She simply changed her appearance and presented as black. It wasn't about an honest accounting of her identity. She simply lied. Trans people (at least the ones that I know...and I know a bunch) make the step of living in the truth of their gender identity and expression. Rachel Dolezal did not. As this is the only transracial person I'm aware of (using this particular definition), I'm going to say that we're not at the point yet where this actually needs any kind of addressing along the lines of the concept of being transgender.

^I'm gonna run with that; thanks.

"meticulously darkening her skin"

I guess orange IS the new black

Oh god I hate when Matt Lauer puts on his pinched weasely face to represent the disgust that "many Americans feel." #RememberAnnCurry

^Amen to that. She has already taken up this charade as a cause. She should read this.

http://www.thelostdaughters.com/2015/06/transracial-lives-matter-rachel-dolezal.html

I've decided to self-identify as Stanley Tucci. Please address me as stucci from now on.

THANK YOU JON STEWART and also Erik for the quotation.

Best comment:

"The next time I deal with a cop, I’m going to make sure he’s aware I identify as white."

I lasted 2:26 seconds into the clip of the interview on the Today website. Matt Lauer told her she started the conversation on race in this country.