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[beacon1]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 11:09am

Yes...East Aurora is about 30 minutes south of me...and about 90 minutes north of my hometown!

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 11:11am

My name is SOMMS and I am an oakaholic.

[beacon1]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 11:16am

Do you know how many folks I know who decoupaged their wedding announcement onto wooden plaques?

[DG]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 11:17am

SOMMS - the Gamble House (considered one of the masterpieces of Greene & Greene) has ELEVEN different woods used in the entryway alone! The amount of warmth and texture created is unbelievable. And it's all hand hewn, and unbeleivably smooth to the touch.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 11:31am

Thanks for bringing up a topic on which I know NOTHING, DG! But it's absolutely interesting. The only thing I know to add is that, as I said before, those arts and crafts fairs I always attended as a child must be a hangover from this movement. And some people really do create some absolutely beautiful things. I bought a handmade doghouse once for our dog. He chewed it apart. But it was pretty while it lasted.

[DG]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 11:44am

The Movement has been on my mind a lot, lately (even more than usual) because of the foundation of wanting to get back to human action, rather than succomb to machinery.

I've been intrigued watching the relationships and interactions develop through the board. It's not surprising to me that there has been a real attempt by many to reach past the cold and sterile environment of the cyber world to form more human connections. I think there's a real need for that in our lives, and I wonder if there's going to be a backlash to the isolation that our modern technology affords.

There's great power with these new tools, but I don't think it's wise to ignore that they mean nothing without real people to make them work. Ultimately, despite all the advancements, it's the same thing you get in one-on-one communication that actually means something - and that I think most people are really looking for.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 12:05pm

ooh, NOW we have an offshoot about which I know a little, having really grown with the rise of the home computer and internet relationships.
For some people, there really is a strong desire to connect outside the confines of this electrical device. There is still that need that, in order for this to be real, it needs to be tangible in some way.
I mean, I've met some great people here (and some not-so-great), but I hesitated to call them REAL friends until I actually met them? Why? I guess I'm one of the old-fashioned ones that way: I need to see you and be in front of you in order to make you truly 100% real.
On the flip-side, there are people who are VERY happy forming relationships that never leave the electronic stage and, to them, these are worthwhile, lasting things. It doesn't work for me. You are a good person, a dear person, whatever, but until I get you in front of me, you're still not quite all real.
Oy. I don't know if that made sense. It's not coming out right, but suffice to say, I do think it's, in many senses, an offshoot of this same movement idea, away from the new thing or at least using the new to reaffirm the old idea.

[Stagedoor2]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 12:23pm

Thanks DG for picking this topic – it’s one of my favorites. I’ve always wanted to see the Gamble House in person when I’m in the LA area, but never seem to get there. You’ve strengthened my resolve to go on my next trip west. As a Chicagoan, we’re lucky enough to have many wonderful examples of the Prairie School designs of FLWright and his disciples, which I believe to be an offshoot of the Arts & Crafts movement, if not the next step in Architectural evolution. Then there are the Chicago bungalows, which were Arts & Crafts-esque affordable housing in the early part of the 20th century. It’s all so interesting.

There was a wonderful book published a few years ago about houses in California – I wish I could remember the exact title. There was a piece on the Gamble House as well as others – it was a pretty weighty tome. I’ll have to get it out tonight and give it a read.

[beacon1]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 1:22pm

There are some FLW buildings being restored here in Buffalo.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 1:26pm

A Wright home burned in Gary, IN this week.

I will be in Oak Park for dinner tomorrow night and will likely end up in the Wright District. Such beautiful homes.

[CostumeMistress]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 1:41pm

I think that the modern twist to the Arts and Crafts Movement is not MAKING things, but CUSTOMIZING them. We can purchase anything we want cheaply, and then make it our own - my apartment is a prime example. I have the wooden table that I bought off another student, which I painted the top of with swirly, multi-colored designs. I buy pillowcases cheap at Target, but then take them home and needlepoint the edges. It's so easy to acquire things, that I think we buy the same old stuff and then add our own touches, making ourselves think of things as "homemade." This is the same culture as boxed cakes and Hamburger helper... because we did the finishing steps, it's "homemade!"

[smartpenguin78]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:00pm

I don't have much to say about this topic, but it has been a fascinating read.

I feel exactly the same as Bwaysinger about the nature of relationships developed through the internet. There is not really a category for the "friends" I have on here that I have not met, especially since, as Plum said yesterday, we are basically creating a persona for ourselves that even if it is the same as who we really are, can be modified and tweaked to fit our desires. I have met some real people though, and I consider them to be close friends. I also "am" who I am online, including the circuitous phrasing and tangential thought, so I have that expectation of others.

The idea of a message board itself and blogging, is an offshoot of the idea of making things our own anyway. The internet initially had a "grass roots" quality, then it became corporate and controlled, so in order to be expressive and form community inside that corporate space, people have once again gone to a form where individuality and creativity of individuals is the most important thing.

As with the industrial revolution itself started by organizing in home laborers, who were eventually driven out of their homes and into factories because of the very system resulted in people needing to spend time "creating" items at home once again, we have the same cycle repeating in modern forms of technology.

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:06pm

My senior university thesis was on the shift in home decor philosophy from the Victorian era to the A&C movement.

David Rago (from the Antiques Roadshow) has his auction gallery here and I often go to his auctions. I always feel a disconnect and sadness to watch a pottery piece that was created to glorify simplicity and nature sell for $100,000+

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:06pm

Thanks SP78. I also am what I am here and in real life. These milti identity posters get on my nerves.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:31pm

It's enlightening to find out that Wright sort of grew out of this movement, which I must admit to having never known was a movement as such! I did get a chance to visit Taliesin (Wright's home in Wisconsin) and it's truly an interesting place...he definitely wanted his architecture to work with and enhance (and even appear to be ) nature.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:38pm

Did you see the PBS Wright show - outstanding.

I really need to make a trip to Falling Water.

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:53pm

Wright was adamant about furnishing most of the houses he built. From an aesthetic viewpoint, they were beautiful. From a comfort viewpoint, not so much. NYC is deprived of a FLW house, but the Metropolitan Museum of Art has a gem of a FLW room ...

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:55pm

Well, now I know what to do soon...
Everything designed by Wright seems uncomfortable.
A lovely person whom I befriended in Wisconsin attended the Unitarian church Wright built in Madison, so I went to hear her sing there. REALLY cool, unique place with the original benches and chairs (and a podium that appears to have been grown, not made!)...but VERY uncomfortable.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:55pm

One day I took the kids to the Robi (sp) House at UofC in the morning and then the historic district in the afternoon.

And yes, the chairs are not confortable.

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:56pm

but they are beautiful...

bway, I believe the room is located right off the American Court, where there's an excellent amount of light coming through. It really is beautiful...

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:57pm

I'll grab a map.
And hopefully drag someone along with me to view it. Thank god for free corporate memberships.

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:58pm

I'm sure there are some people who would come along willingly...

[Stagedoor2]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 2:59pm

I finally got to Fallingwater a few years ago. Unfortunately it was during a major drought in Pennsylvannia, so it was more of a Fallingtrickle, which was a bit disappointing. You see so many pictures and I had studied it in various art/architecture classes over the years. The house itself though, certainly lived up the expectations that I had.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 3:00pm

C - when you are in Chicago next, take my lobby walking tour. So many fabulous buildings.


For example, the Marquette Building:

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[kissmycookie]

Posted: 1/20/06 at 3:06pm

Would be more than happy to, B.

I know Chicago is such a wonderful architecture town that I would be remissed not to enjoy the beauty of it all...

SOMMSy: Likewise for how much Quaker/Shaker craftsmanship can sell for, nowadays?