The Debates Thread
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#200the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:14pm
"The real loser here is Sarah Palin, because she will not be able to demonstrate the knowledge or background of Biden,"
Of course I was chided last night for pointing out the backfiring strategy of criticizing Barack Obama's so-called lack of experience and readiness because it instantly brings Gramps's vice presidential pick to mind, because last night's debate wasn't about the vice presidential candidates.
Whatever. I still think it backfired big time.
#201the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:27pm
Yeah, last night someone was crankier than usual. (which is pretty amazing).
I agree that by nominating Palin, McCain undermined his strongest argument.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#202the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:30pm"i'm fine with president palin" is a frightening sentence that will echo in my memory for the coming weeks.
Q
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
#204the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:36pmI love papa to death, but that statement is a complete head-scratcher to me. I just can't fathom it, really.
#205the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:36pmPalin;s experience highlights Barry's LACK of experience.
#207the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:48pmIt is just a troll Windy, doing its best John McCain impersonation.
LePetiteFromage
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/19/08
#211the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 3:44pm
True, true!
Government tinkering in the market caused the current meltdown. Experts have traced it to the current congress, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter.
To Barry with Love from Fannie and Freddie
Updated On: 9/27/08 at 03:44 PM
LePetiteFromage
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/19/08
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#213It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:26pm
Obama, he charged, lacked the "knowledge and experience" to be president.
Pundits highlighted that and said it was the key to McCain gaining at least a tie. But I didn't hear a single person on TV point out: McCain just picked Palin for vice president! How, then, could he make such a charge against Obama?
My feeling is that the Couric interview might have done for McCain what the first Nixon-Kennedy did for Nixon in 1960 -- a true watershed moment. The American voters finally "got it" about Palin and so McCain's "best moment" against Obama either fell flat with many of them, or proved laughable.
This made all the more stark with Palin AWOL during the post-debate analysis -- and Joe Biden all over the place. And with reports of McCain team alarm about her performance during the mock debate preps.
But the pundits barely recognized that the "experience" charge was a non-starter -- and that's why they scored the debate fairly even even as viewers seem to have rated it a landslide for Obama.
Why didn't pundits see it? Obama won.
#214It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 6:09pmGosh, I heart Lil' Cheeze!!!
misschung
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/18/07
#215It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 6:26pm
Watching Bill Clinton on Larry King made me remember what it's like to have a president that's smarter than I am. And believe me, I'm not tooting my own horn very much with that statement.
I love the fact that people are saying Couric was hard on Palin during that interview. The CNN panel made it seem like she was unprepared for that interview and that they should have allowed her more 'warm up' interviews, essentially, rather than starting in with the big guns. Couric didn't ask her anything out of the ordinary. If this woman is going to be the VP, she should be able to give fairly intelligent answers regarding topics that most of us are knowledgeable about. But the woman shot herself in the foot first by evading the question about the Bush Doctrine. Then she bombed the Couric interview by pushing the whole Alaska/Russia proximity as experience in foreign policy. One more strike and she's out.
And to be honest - it was unfair of McCain to even put her in this position by choosing her. It's like calling in a favor and putting Paris Hilton the the Harvard Law Review.
#216It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 8:45pm
Looks like McCain won the after debate. His polls are moving up, and the election is going to be very close-in a year that should be a democrat tsunami.
Oh well. With Hillary, we could have won it all.
#217It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 8:54pm
Experience doesn't guarantee anything. LB Johnson, NIxon, Carter, all had plenty of experience but were considered poor presidents.
Of course I've never been president, but I have a feeling nothing can prepare you for the actual experience.
On a lesser level, all the education courses in the world can not prepare you for the actual experience of being in the classroom and teaching.
#218It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 9:11pmWell, I'm glad to know that experience counts for nothing. This is the philosophy of all of the Barry voters.
#219It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 9:22pmI'm not a Barry voter.
#218It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/28/08 at 2:25pmThe debates were not quite the Obama K.O. I was hoping for but, damn did McCain come across as condescending.
tommyboy
Broadway Star Joined: 12/21/06
#219It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/28/08 at 2:33pm
Borsty -- Gramps was caught in a corner, and he knows it now since he has picked Miss Alaska. If we are going to have a beauty queen in the White House, sometime in the next 3 or 4 years, could he not at least picked Miss America?...or Janet Jackson?
Updated On: 9/28/08 at 02:33 PM
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