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The Debates Thread- Page 9

The Debates Thread

FindingNamo
#200the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:14pm

"The real loser here is Sarah Palin, because she will not be able to demonstrate the knowledge or background of Biden,"

Of course I was chided last night for pointing out the backfiring strategy of criticizing Barack Obama's so-called lack of experience and readiness because it instantly brings Gramps's vice presidential pick to mind, because last night's debate wasn't about the vice presidential candidates.

Whatever. I still think it backfired big time.


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#201the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:27pm

Yeah, last night someone was crankier than usual. (which is pretty amazing).

I agree that by nominating Palin, McCain undermined his strongest argument.

FindingNamo
#202the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:30pm

"i'm fine with president palin" is a frightening sentence that will echo in my memory for the coming weeks.


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#203the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:35pm

Got to agree with you there.

Q
#204the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:36pm

I love papa to death, but that statement is a complete head-scratcher to me. I just can't fathom it, really.

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Bickle
#205the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:36pm

Palin;s experience highlights Barry's LACK of experience.

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WindyCityActor
#206the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:46pm

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#207the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 1:48pm

It is just a troll Windy, doing its best John McCain impersonation.

LePetiteFromage
#210
Posted: 9/27/08 at 3:41pm

Updated On: 1/13/09 at 03:41 PM

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Bickle
#211the debate thread
Posted: 9/27/08 at 3:44pm

True, true!

Government tinkering in the market caused the current meltdown. Experts have traced it to the current congress, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter.

To Barry with Love from Fannie and Freddie Updated On: 9/27/08 at 03:44 PM

LePetiteFromage
#212
Posted: 9/27/08 at 4:14pm

Updated On: 1/13/09 at 04:14 PM

#213It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 5:26pm

Obama, he charged, lacked the "knowledge and experience" to be president.

Pundits highlighted that and said it was the key to McCain gaining at least a tie. But I didn't hear a single person on TV point out: McCain just picked Palin for vice president! How, then, could he make such a charge against Obama?

My feeling is that the Couric interview might have done for McCain what the first Nixon-Kennedy did for Nixon in 1960 -- a true watershed moment. The American voters finally "got it" about Palin and so McCain's "best moment" against Obama either fell flat with many of them, or proved laughable.

This made all the more stark with Palin AWOL during the post-debate analysis -- and Joe Biden all over the place. And with reports of McCain team alarm about her performance during the mock debate preps.

But the pundits barely recognized that the "experience" charge was a non-starter -- and that's why they scored the debate fairly even even as viewers seem to have rated it a landslide for Obama.

Why didn't pundits see it? Obama won.

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javero
#214It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 6:09pm

Gosh, I heart Lil' Cheeze!!!


#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.

misschung
#215It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 6:26pm

Watching Bill Clinton on Larry King made me remember what it's like to have a president that's smarter than I am. And believe me, I'm not tooting my own horn very much with that statement.

I love the fact that people are saying Couric was hard on Palin during that interview. The CNN panel made it seem like she was unprepared for that interview and that they should have allowed her more 'warm up' interviews, essentially, rather than starting in with the big guns. Couric didn't ask her anything out of the ordinary. If this woman is going to be the VP, she should be able to give fairly intelligent answers regarding topics that most of us are knowledgeable about. But the woman shot herself in the foot first by evading the question about the Bush Doctrine. Then she bombed the Couric interview by pushing the whole Alaska/Russia proximity as experience in foreign policy. One more strike and she's out.

And to be honest - it was unfair of McCain to even put her in this position by choosing her. It's like calling in a favor and putting Paris Hilton the the Harvard Law Review.


The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?

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Bickle
#216It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 8:45pm

Looks like McCain won the after debate. His polls are moving up, and the election is going to be very close-in a year that should be a democrat tsunami.

Oh well. With Hillary, we could have won it all.

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Jane2
#217It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 8:54pm

Experience doesn't guarantee anything. LB Johnson, NIxon, Carter, all had plenty of experience but were considered poor presidents.

Of course I've never been president, but I have a feeling nothing can prepare you for the actual experience.

On a lesser level, all the education courses in the world can not prepare you for the actual experience of being in the classroom and teaching.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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Bickle
#218It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 9:11pm

Well, I'm glad to know that experience counts for nothing. This is the philosophy of all of the Barry voters.

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Jane2
#219It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/27/08 at 9:22pm

I'm not a Barry voter.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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Borstalboy
#218It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/28/08 at 2:25pm

The debates were not quite the Obama K.O. I was hoping for but, damn did McCain come across as condescending.


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

tommyboy
#219It's Official- Obama won it, hands down
Posted: 9/28/08 at 2:33pm

Borsty -- Gramps was caught in a corner, and he knows it now since he has picked Miss Alaska. If we are going to have a beauty queen in the White House, sometime in the next 3 or 4 years, could he not at least picked Miss America?...or Janet Jackson?
Updated On: 9/28/08 at 02:33 PM


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