The True Blood Dumb Gossip-Head Weirdo Bitches thread- Page 15

[Platypus]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 2:08pm

From the last lines of Dead Ever After: "I enjoyed my arms around him, the sense of him next to me. And if you were to ask me, I would confess that I thought Sam and I would be together, maybe by Christmas, maybe for always. I couldn’t imagine a future without him. But I also knew that if he turned away from me at this moment, somehow I would survive that, and I would find a way to flourish like the yard that still bloomed and grew around my family home"

So she maybe ends up with Sam, but I considered it open ended, cause it was a maybe.

In terms of the traditional family, I wasn't talking about her family of origin. Yes she was happy with her grandmother, for he 1/2 episode that her grandmother was alive. I was talking about her family of choice and how she never had a relationship before Bill because she could never be with someone human whose every thoughts she could read.

Anyways, I guess it's just my interpretation and not everyone agrees. I'm not here to argue.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 2:30pm

Yes, and then there's "After Dead".

But I agree that "Dead Ever After"'s ending leaves it more open than just "She picks Sam. The end."

[Platypus]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 2:41pm

Dead Ever After is still considered the concluding novel of the series. After Dead is like the "Where are they now" after school special that comes later. Or shameless TV movie.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 3:08pm

Speaking of Charlaine, was that her watching the monitors during the infomercial?

[javero]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 3:09pm

"Totally agree that Bill's requests were absurd, and that wedding...just wasn't buying it."

We have to remember that Bill was trapped in a bygone era for at least a century until happening upon Sookie. In the span, he had grown ambivalent towards love and his life as an immortal. The most touching moment of the finale to me was when he revealed his dying wish to Jessica that she be spoken for by a gentleman before he met the true death. Old school Bill was always infinitely more interesting to me than the modern version, and don't even get started on the Billith foolishness. That particular scene harked to one earlier in the season in which his mortal dad implored him to marry his beloved Caroline. He even had the unmitigated gall to leave his legacy in the hands of Andy Belfleur just so that Hoyt and his wife would be properly provided for after his passing.

Sookie was still quite naive when Bill entered her life. It's my understanding from watching the series that she's only had relationships with supernaturals. Yes, it felt rushed but the entire final season was Bill's road to redemption. In the end, he had to do right by Sookie, who now is only the second woman he's ever loved in nearly 200 yrs. He wanted Sookie to experience the joy of matrimony and parenthood that he shared with his beloved Caroline. It was a purely selfless act consistent with the actions of a gentleman from his time as a mortal. All Bill ever had to offer Sookie was certain death.

Updated On: 8/25/14 at 03:09 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 3:25pm

Vulture recap: Coherent. Insightful. Nothing of the redemptive sort for Beeeyul.

Updated On: 8/25/14 at 03:25 PM

[javero]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 3:34pm

Namo,

I got the "Page Not Found" error.

[Wynbish]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 3:41pm

An interview with PAM!


Apparently, she and Alex were crying babies, and I love them so

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 3:50pm

AV Club gives it a D- and tells us we really should be watching THE VAMPIRE DIARIES

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/25/14 at 11:30pm

The New Blood commercial was fab at first but it went in too long. It got so stupid, even for me, and I have accepted a lot of stupid when it comes to the show.




Updated On: 8/26/14 at 11:30 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 12:47am

That was the first Pam & Eric thing that didn't leave me wanting more.

[javero]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 6:21am

No other ending would have made sense. Bill and Erik had totally mind-f*cked Sookie into permanent fang-bait. She didn't have the will to leave Bill and his toxic love. So, he got her to put him out of his misery giving her the catharsis she needed to move on. After 7 seasons, it was time for viewers to witness a grown-up Sookie. Jessica deserved true love so Bill gave her the push she needed to welcome it into her immortal life. In the end, Bill Compton was the consummate protector consistent with the patriarchy of his Civil War-era persona. He will call on Miss Stackhouse no more.

RIP William Thomas Compton (April 9, 1835 - August 25, 2014)

[Wynbish]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 9:06am

Good riddance to William Thomas Compton

The "He's just a good ole Civil War era boy" reasoning is strange, since it's been 150+ years since.

And Sookie saying she just couldn't see herself staking him? She staked him last season when he, as Billith, almost killed Eric. Updated On: 8/26/14 at 09:06 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 11:06am

This is why in this thread every week I would get in and get out with my first impressions of the show right after it aired so I would be long gone before javero and lovepuppy got here with their treatises. True Blood could never stand up to over thinking.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 11:08am

The way that everyone was coupled by the end was weird and forced, too, I though. Even Jane Bodehouse had a man at that Thanksgiving dinner! I still can't get over how odd this entire season was, let alone the finale. I thought I'd have been able to silver-line some of this stuff when it was all said and done, but really, the finale felt like a parody to me.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 12:08pm

This Brian dude sounds like a cross between Javero and lovepuppy...

'True Blood' producer Brian Buckner answers burning finale questions

• Why did we not see the face of the man Sookie ended up with?

“The idea was that we wanted Bill to be correct when he said that Sookie could have a normal life, the twist, of course, being that Sookie chose to keep her power and specialness and persevere—despite his belief that she couldn’t be okay without giving up her powers,” Buckner says. “Charlaine [Harris] took a lot of abuse for choosing Sam [in the novels]. We felt like it was irrelevant, honestly, who Sookie wound up with. What we wanted to know was that she was happy and living the life that she wanted to lead, and to introduce some other stranger in the last five minutes of the finale wouldn’t have made a lot of sense. So we made a choice it’s everyman, it doesn’t matter. So we didn’t have a version where we revealed him. I mean, we basically cast the man with the best arms from our stunt crew.”

• But why didn’t it come down to the Bill-Sookie-Eric love triangle?

“I think I’ve actually honored all the writers that have been here, in terms of it not being, ‘Which man will Sookie choose?’ That was the thing we were pretty leery of because you immediately alienate everybody who likes the other guy. So we chose to have it Sookie marries any man, because it doesn’t really matter who it was. It’s a story of Sookie overcoming her own demons so that she can lead a life that she wanted without giving herself up.”

• How does Buckner reconcile True Blood‘s gay metaphor with vampire Jessica’s wedding to Hoyt with vampire Bill killing himself?

“Yes, True Blood is an allegory about otherness, but when you read a novel that is allegorical, it is usually about one character, right? To maintain allegorical correctness across the board with 20 characters is sometimes impossible. You have to pick a center,” he said. “So for us, in this story line, I think it’s obvious from the seven years that Sookie and Bill were not meant to be true love forever. So now you’ve got to pick whose otherness you’re gonna protect. And the truth is, there was a version of this finale that I pitched to HBO earlier this year, before we got started in production, where we tried to be very postmodern and had Sookie give away her powers. That felt real wrong. And I eventually came around to the point of view that it was wrong. But the allegory to be protected, I think, is Sookie’s.”

• Is Bill a hero in the end? Here’s where Buckner believes the situation gets confusing:

“Sookie has been asking for a normal life, to be normal. She has felt inflicted but also empowered with her power. So I don’t think Bill was being a weasel for suggesting to Sookie,’Use your light.’ I don’t think it was weak. I don’t think it was, ‘If I can’t have you, no vampire can have you.’ I don’t think it was any of those things. I do believe it was heroic. But he also had to have a secondary reason for wanting to go, because when Sookie puts away her light, Bill has to still want to die. Otherwise, let’s get over to Fangtasia right now,” he said. “I think what Bill came around to, similar to what Godric came around to, is that a human life is extraordinary, too.” It’s what Niall, Bill, and Gran (via flashback in the finale) all told Sookie. “I think he was meant to feel heroic. I’m not confused by it, but it is certainly made more complex because it’s ultimately a Sookie story, not a Bill story.” And again, the moral of Sookie’s story goes back to what Gran told her: “You don’t have to change yourself in order to have everything you want. You are the obstacle. That’s what I was hoping people were carrying forward when Sookie makes her ultimate decision not to give [her light] up in the finale,” Buckner said.

• Why wasn’t the ending darker?

“I think that [Sookie] was the center of the show again in a way that I don’t think she has been in a bit of time. I wanted to give her and our fans a happy ending. I know that this show has made its living on sex and gore and violence. But without story, all that starts to take on the feeling of a snuff film,” he said. “The director [of the finale], Scott Winant, actually said to me, ‘I get what you’re doing here, because if you’re going to go bigger and bolder than you’ve ever been, where are you gonna go?’ So the more surprising ending for this is this intimate, small beautiful story of these people in a small town…. To me, you want to know these people are gonna be okay. A lot of our fans who aren’t journalists, frankly,” he said, laughing, “are going to appreciate knowing that we parked these people in a good place. At least that’s my hope. But it was certainly the intention. It’s not really being out of gory moments, but you kinda go, ‘To what end?’ Like, it’s not all that fun to explode vampires over and over again. So if you want to do something that is unexpected, you kinda have to go the other way.”

• Did they ever think about killing off any main characters aside from Tara, Alcide, and Bill this season?

No.

• Why isn’t there more Eric in the finale?

In short, Alexander Skarsgard had commitments in London for the filming of Tarzan. “His story, as originally conceived, honestly ended somewhere around episode 8. And then when I started to write 9 and 10, I realized I needed more complications, and I thought it really fitting to sell Sookie out at the end of episode 9 and then to rescue her at the top of 10…. For a while, we weren’t even sure that we would have him for our finale because of dates and stuff, and then there were adjustments.” (And though Buckner didn’t want to take the bait when asked if there was a story he thought could be explored in a spinoff, he did: “I believe that there is life in Eric and Pam running a multinational corporation.”)

• Why do people like Hoyt and Brigette get so much screen time?

“Hoyt—that’s a Jessica story. Brigette was a Jason story. You can’t break episodes by saying, ‘Every character’s gonna get five minutes of screen time.’ It’s not the way you can approach writing a script. You gotta be telling the stories, and let the stories dictate who gets the screen time,” he said. Would he have liked to have more Lafayette in the end? Yes. But Lafayette and James getting together was the catalyst for the Jessica and Jason, Jessica and Hoyt, Jason and Brigette story lines to come, which were simply meatier. “I learned this when I was writing on Friends—Ross and Rachel together wasn’t quite as much fun as Ross and Rachel sparring,” he said. “I don’t know what the scenes would be if we just did scenes of James and Lafayette being happy together. I’m thrilled that we got Lafayette true love, but it sorta peaked by episodes five and six. So there was closure for that character. I love him, too.”

• Why spend so much time on Lettie Mae?

When they filmed the season six finale, Buckner had no intention of killing off Tara. But then realizing they had to have a casualty to make the H-Vamp threat real, and not knowing how he’d top that season six finale scene between Tara (Rutina Wesley) and Lettie Mae (Adina Porter), he thought it made sense for Tara to be the one to go. “I didn’t know what to do with that for 10 more episodes. The writers chose to tell a story about the redemption of Lettie Mae. I understand that people feel like, ‘Why would we tell the story of Lettie Mae and not the story of Tara.’ I get it, but you have to make certain choices, and I think that this season there are characters who got more explored than they’ve ever been explored—like Andy and Holly. And other characters who people have come to love but have already been thoroughly explored, who at the end of the day may have been short-shrifted. We have a massive cast, and it is both a curse and a blessing.”

• Is Ginger still at Fangtasia?

“Yeah, I think Ginger is definitely still at Fangtasia. As a matter of fact, we actually recorded some additional dialogue as Pam goes up those stairs, where she called off to Ginger, ‘Open the safe!’ But we just decided for speed’s sake just to vamp speed Pam up the stairs, so there was no room for the dialogue. They stole the whole thing from her—I think there’s gonna be some loyalty there.”

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/08/25/true-blood-series-finale-sookie-husband/ Updated On: 8/26/14 at 12:08 PM

[javero]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 1:29pm

"True Blood could never stand up to over thinking."

Nor can most of your posts at bww but I don't resort to ad hominem attacks to discredit you and your circle of commiserating mean girls. I've pretty much concluded that you Namo are hopelessly flawed and bitter beyond repair. You come on here attempting to bully any poster for whom you have a raging hard-on...well, maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration all things considered. I've written before and will repeat it here and now, please work out your daddy issues with some other guy. Get well soon, if you can!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 1:32pm

We're all hopelessly flawed but I'm not bitter at all. I just stated how I came up with a procedure to take part in a discussion thread about a show I watched that got bogged down every single week. I didn't name names until the show was over. Okay, ONCE I made an allusion to how quickly the life could get sucked out of a thread about vampires. And how ironical that was.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 1:34pm

I thought I'd have been able to silver-line some of this stuff when it was all said and done, but really, the finale felt like a parody to me.

I agree, Phyllis. Seriously, having the last scene of actual dialogue in the entire series as a scene between Sarah and Steve Newlin was just a big F*CK you to the fans. I guess you predicted earlier in the thread that the show would end with characters we didn't care about, and you were pretty much right. Also, the more interviews I read with the EP, the more embarrassing and incompetent he sounds. No wonder Joe Manganiello was so candid and displeased in all interviews after his character died.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 1:35pm

I would strongly recommend that TV series forego final episodes from now on. That's how it used to be, time to go back to that.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 1:43pm

Or just forgo final terrible episodes.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 1:55pm

I think the ration of bad to good finales (according to audience reaction) is really high.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 2:10pm

I think I just watch shows that don't get a big to-do about them when they end and rarely watch the ones that do (True Blood being an exception). The only recent big ones I can think of Dexter (which everyone seemed to hate) and Breaking Bad (which everyone seemed to love). I didn't see, either, though.

If you'd told me a year ago how much I would have hated True Blood's last season and finale, I wouldn't have believed you, but I think killing Tara five seconds in was something I was never gonna recover from. I'm still just baffled that the storylines they choose for the last season were the storylines they chose.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 2:15pm

"but I think killing Tara five seconds in was something I was never gonna recover from."

I would say of all the sins this show committed over the years, that was the most Mortal. When it happened and when she came back in the first vision I thought, "Oh good, they'll come up with something great to do with her." I've been wrong before but that was a doozy.

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 8/26/14 at 2:39pm

I didnt hate the finale i was just left longing for a bit more, it had some wonderful moments (ive always liked Jess so was happy with the wedding) but i hated that some of the bigger characters got short chamged