American Idiot Extended
American Idiot Extended
LastOfTheAG
Swing Joined: 10/24/10
#1American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 12:05amDid anyone else notice on Telecharge that American Idiot has been extended until spring of 2011? Has there been any official press releases on this? Is it true that there will be some casting changes?
#2American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 12:23am
I'm surprised to see that it's extending.
Last time I checked, it didn't have the best grosses and/or capacity...
I know from an interview in LA Times, that Stark Sands is contracted until January '11.
Link:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2010/04/stark-sands-green-day-american-idiot-broadway.html
#3American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 12:55am
Just because they put tickets on sale does not mean they will actually run.
On the other hand, if they think they have any chance at all of running into the Spring, this is the time (if not sooner) that they should be putting single tickets on sale.
Personally, I don't think they'll get there -- if these are their numbers in October, late January/early February will be truly scary -- but it's not at all surprising to me that they've gone ahead and put the tickets on sale to protect against the possibility, however remote.
"No matter how much you want the part, never let 'em see you sweat." -- Old Dry Idea commercial
#4American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 2:17am
American Idiot was one of the only choices for a specific segment of Broadway goers in August before Andrew Jackson opened.... it's only real comp is Andrew Jackson now I think... I still hear a lot of people saying they wanna see it... and the lottery crowd is ALWAYS huge ... I think it'll make it till Spring... what does it really have to compete against? Spiderman? I didn't expect it to last past May when it was sorta Tony snubbed but they kept it running in hopes positive word of mouth would keep it going... and it did... I think the fact that it lasted the summer will help it last till spring. Really all they need is a star to keep it open for a year or two... and since it's all pop and rock songs it should be VERY easy to get a star in there.
I vote KELLY CLARKSON to jump in. I'd go see it again for her. lol.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#5American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 5:02am
Who is the "star" now? Gallagher (as much as I love him) is only known amongst b'way folks. While he's done a few tv episodes and movies, he hasn't gained any sort of recognition for them.
What's the competition? Any possible other show that people will choose to see. What demographic are you speaking of that make BBAJ it's ONLY competition? For a show to last a good length of time, they need a broad demographic.
I am certainly NOT the group that I suspect you are speaking of. But I went and saw AI with great anticipation. I saw BBAJ 2x OFF bway and can't wait to see it again "on".
The reason the lottery crowd is huge is because of the young people that cannot afford full price tix. If they are ONLY buying highly discounted tix over and over again, they aren't "helping" the production. A show can't survive on discount tix.
(Of course, that being said: N2N seems to be somehow doing just that and has been since last spring.)
I have no idea what the fate of AI is, but all that the release of the next block of tix means is: they are testing the waters.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
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#6American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 9:37amThe "star" is unarguably Green Day's music.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
sundaymorning6am
Broadway Star Joined: 5/23/06
#7American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 10:07am
Just because they've extended ticket sales, that doesn't mean they can't close.
But for the record: I've been keeping up with the grosses since it opened (for the most part) and there's only been one week that I can remember where they didn't make their weekly nut (around $425k). If they keep making their weekly nut plus some and they can keep returning money to their investors, they won't close. Capacity doesn't matter, as long as they're making money - which they are (for now, at least).
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#8American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 10:33amI don't disagree with you, Kad, at all. The previous poster implied that the show could only succeed with star performers.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Greatwhiteway3
Stand-by Joined: 7/7/09
#9American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 10:34am
What I find interesting is that the "Powers that be" rushed to close Finian's Rainbow which was grossing just as much as AI has been fior
The last few months and had much lower costs (half the cast, less elaborate set etc)...I had heard a rumor that someone with influence at the theater (not the show) pushed to close because they were linked to someone at AI and wanted the show at their theater...don't know if it's true but the fact that landlords have things written in the contracts where they can break the lease if attendance is below a certain level and only half the theater is being sold for AI makes me go huuummmmm
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#10American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 10:43am
Yes, the theater has an interest in the box office. Usually, the contract reads that they can be evicted if they fall below the agreed amount (I can't remember what it's called right now) for two consecutive weeks they can invoke it. It is not an automatic and can most definitely be influenced if another, more promising production has an interest in the theater.
I'm fairly certain that it's not about attendance levels but $$$ brought in.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#11American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 1:27pmAll they have to do is call Billie Joe to step in, and advertise it this time. They will be fine.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#12American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 1:29pmAnd as soon as he left....ticket sales returned to where they are now.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#13American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 1:32pmWe dont know what the weekly nut is (though everybody on here always claims too for every show), they could be getting by.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
#14American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 2:28pm
Usually, the contract reads that they can be evicted if they fall below the agreed amount (I can't remember what it's called right now)
The stop clause.
sundaymorning6am
Broadway Star Joined: 5/23/06
#15American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 2:38pm
I believe that that clause exists in contracts but it seems a little foolish. Why would you kick a show out that's able to pay the bills and put in a show that might or might not be able to?
Seems really dumb to me.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#16American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 3:02pm
If the production is meeting its requirements, they cannot invoke the stop clause (Thank you, TheaterFan). Only when they fall below it for a predetermined length of time.
And if the owners of theater don't beleive in the alternative more than the present production, they won't invoke it either. It's a crapshoot. Always is.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Baileyboo
Stand-by Joined: 7/28/09
#17American Idiot Extended
Posted: 10/25/10 at 4:37pmThe theater owner get a piece of the gross. The clause exists to protect the theater owner against underperforming shows. They need the right to evict a 60% seat-filler in hopes of finding a 90-100% seat filler. If that new show is not on the horizon, the stop clause would not be invoked. If, however, in the theater owner's opinion, American Idiot has far more potential than Finian, they would certainly invoke and make a change.
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