Because Everything Deserves It's Own Thread: Why Did Ragtime Cancel Loading Out? — Page 2

First of all, you might want to look up the words "supercilious" and "schmuck", Glinda. Second of all, you miss-spelled schmuck. Third, I would love to see Ragtime run for the next four or five years. It's a great show, just not my cup of tea. My point is, musicsnob seems to think that I have any personal vested interest or any form of "wishful thinking" that it will remain open. My saying that I "didn't give a flying f#@k if it closed before it opened" was just empathizing that fact, albeit a bit harshly. I was making it clear musicsnob has no idea what he's talking about. I would love to see a good show like this do well and keep many people employed for many years. I don't need to like it to want it to do well.

Sorry if I confused you. Please let me know if this cleared up what I think was a misunderstanding.

He called me sweetheart, which was condescending and unwarranted, I called him a supercilious schmuck, which, IMO, was not.

Updated On: 1/10/10 at 12:05 PM

Let me start out by saying that as far as I know, the show is closing today and it is not extending or anything like that.

But, I have been under the impression that both a load in and a load out are things that take a lot of planning etc. I doubt that if it is true that they pushed back the load out, that it was due to the fact that the storage space was unavailable.

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defygravity24, I also took a color playbill that I found. When I looked inside, I saw that the articles were different possibly from last month so that is probably why they didnt hand them out. They're old and leftovers from last month.

Winston, I'm pretty sure allmylife was joking.

"If the load out was postponed its entirely possible that the head carpenter had something scheduled and they decided to push it off for a few days. Who the hell knows".

There is no "if", Oldschool, the load-out was pushed back. That could change, but it would be tough to do now, given they've already cancelled the trucks and it's sunday now. And again, seriously, all due respect, you have no clue how the business works. No way ever in hell is a load-out is being delayed because a head carpenter (or any one person) has something else to do. You just get someone else in his/her place. Producers have delayed in the past when a load-out day falls on a holiday, which would force them to pay double-time, otherwise, it's because they're trying to work something out. What that could be, I don't know. Maybe they're trying for a short hiatus and keeping the equipment so they can start right back up with a new cast. Maybe they have a chance to move someplace else that isn't available for the next two days. All speculation, and I don't have my crystal ball today - but the hold-up isn't happening on a whim, or because the head carpenter is busy. It costs an awful lot of money to delay like this and producers don't fritter money like that for no reason.

My understanding is that three cast members are definitely gone - perhaps Ms Noll is one of them, and maybe that's why she's clearing her dressing rooms - and that's if your take twitters as fact. I have never said that the show wasn't closing - just that delaying a load-out (especially for two days) is a VERY unusual thing, and in 30 years, I have never heard of it happening (well, there was Merrick's Oh, Kay!, but that didn't end well, and was a different situation anyway).

You missed the point entirely, wdwfreak. My key words were "all speculation". All I've really said was that these delays do not happen without very good reason, and have offered some possible reasons why. I have never claimed to know what that reason is, nor have I suggested that I was clearing anything up. I have only refuted, with a fair amount of certainty, what others have suggested were reasons for the delay, which, I repeat, are very rare. And NO, I don't know why, except I've never heard of it happening except for the reasons I've stated.

Almost any show that announces that it's closing has a good week or two, because it's everyone's last chance to see it. Hell, Dracula sold out its last two weeks.

Updated On: 1/10/10 at 04:56 PM

I miss Ragtime!!

Very mature of you, Oldschool, but I think I'll pass on your offer.

I gave you facts, in a non-offensive manner. The fact remains that the load-out was pushed back, it had nothing to do with any one person's conflict with anything else, and I can't imagine why you'd choose to be so unnecessarily (and childishly) offensive.

Point well-taken, and thus endeth the lesson.

I actually asked this question to the woman who was running the lottery. She said she works for the producers and she heard this rumor last night but had no idea why anyone would have thought they would be extending.

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Ragtime was suppose to load out monday, trucking was all set. THe producers canceled that and postponed it for a couple of days. We think they are deceiding what to do with the set. Once the load out starts the set gets demolished. When closing was announced for the 10th the trucks were ordered for Monday. Then on Sat they announced to the crew the load out was posponed for one or two days. Now it was confirmed today that it will start on Wed.

"Especially when the load-out begins on a wednesday, which you well know is a difficult day to get crew, it being a two-show day, a doubly unusual choice when so many shows are already loading out."

And there, I think you may have found your reason for the delay. Ragtime unexpectedly extended its closing, so it is very probable that no one was available Monday and Tuesday to load-out the show.

Who cares? Please, I encourage you to go find out on your own.

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