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#2Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:11pmSad about Sound Design but sort of bittersweet that revival authors and composers will receive awards in the future. Well, for one year, at least. The Tonys change their minds A LOT.
#2Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:16pm
I have to admit: I don't know enough ABOUT sound design as a category to know if this makes sense or not but Hooray for the consideration of the creators of a piece not previously eligible is great.
#3Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:19pmWell that's a giant slap in the face to the sound designers. They are eligible for the Outer Critics and Drama Desk Awards, so why shouldn't they be eligible for the Tonys? They just added the category in 2008, so it's not even that old to begin with. Dumb dumb dumb.
#4Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:21pmWhy are they eliminating the Sound Design categories? Why not just add brand new categories for Make-Up Design instead?
#5Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:25pm
While I completely disagree with it, I'm not the bit surprised by this omission. As an (amateur) sound designer myself, it seems that nobody understands what goes into a sound designer's work; sound design is black and white for the general public - it's either good or bad, there's never an in between. It's a shame that these hardworking theater folks will now lose their acknowledgement.
Updated On: 6/11/14 at 06:25 PM
#6Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:33pm
Lighting is in but sound isn't. I don't know
Enough about either but it seems that if you can't see it, it doesn't count?
#7Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:34pmSound design is something I pay attention to. I know a few sound designers and have an interest in it. It is a big slap in the face. I think it is a very important part of the show.
#8Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:40pm
While I believe Sound Design absolutely deserves recognition at the Tony's, I'm personally baffled when I try to evaluate the best sounding productions each year for my own personal little rankings. As a layman, I can absolutely tell you when Sound Design is awful for a show, but at a certain point once it's good it's indistinguishable from great and shades within. So here's my quandary: if the intention of ending these categories is that the general population of Tony voters is unqualified to evaluate Sound Design at a proficient level, why can't the Tonys consider creating a small jury of professionals to vote as qualified evaluators? (Of course, this leads to greater corruption - hello, the Documentary and Sound/Song wings at the Oscars...)
I'm very sorry for my SD friends and all the SDs out there, but I do wonder if this isn't a little related to general sense I have that most voters are hopeless at evaluating Sound Design. It's not unlike (to use a sports metaphor that's bound to go over like gangbusters on a Broadway forum) an offensive line in football: you only notice them if they're not doing their job well. At least that's how I perceive the art of sound design as a layman...
#9Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 6:52pmCan someone clarify the new rule around authors for me? The wording confuses me.
#10Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 7:10pm
Thrilled for the new rule regarding "classics." We would have seen Stephen Sondheim, Larry Kramer, John Cameron Mitchell, Stephen Trask, etc. win Tony Awards for their work. Wish it were implicated sooner.
Eliminating the sound design categories is extremely awful. I can't even collect my thoughts about it, it's just so wrong.
#11Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 7:11pmBasically since the creators of shows like Hedwig and Violet were not eligible for Best Book or Best Score since those shows were deemed revivals, they would win Tonys if the show wins Best Revival. Normally the Best Revival Tony only goes to the producer. Now it will go to the show creators if the show has never appeared on Broadway before but is deemed a revival.
nmlhats
Stand-by Joined: 5/26/14
#12Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 7:13pmI was just about to type the same thing! It's too bad it wasn't in time for Violet and Hedwig. But their being left out this year--even though the creators could not have been up for Tonys the first time around--is probably the precise reason the rule has been changed.
#13Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 7:18pm
Oh I see. Thank you for explaining it. I think that's a good way to honor the authors.
So here's my question: If Assassins, or The Normal Heart or Violet or Hedwig were to be revived AGAIN in another production in years to come, do you they think this rule might apply to them since the rule wasn't in effect for their first revival?
Updated On: 6/11/14 at 07:18 PM
#14Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 7:20pmThe way it's worded, no. It says "not previously produced on Broadway" and at this point all of those shows have been.
#15Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 8:37pmWell, when NPH talks, people listen!
LostinTranslation
Chorus Member Joined: 3/13/14
#16Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 8:39pm
As someone who works with a number of sound designers, I have a couple of thoughts. First off, most lay people couldn't tell you whether the lighting design of a show was good, bad, or indifferent -- if they can see, great. Same thing with sound. These are disciplines that are very technical and the average person isn't going to notice how tight a lighting plot the designer used so that the light is very discrete rather than having big washes of color. Similarly, they aren't going to notice how well the sound system was timed so that it sounds like it's all coming from the stage rather than the speakers. Now sound design, like lighting design doesn't happen in a vacuum. Directors and producers often have a say in what the designers do. These days because of home surround systems shows are becoming louder, less natural, less clear, and more of a sonic assault. The better designers, including this year's Tony winners Brian Ronan and Steve Canyon Kennedy, have done shows that have forward presentations and ones that were more subtle. They work very hard to balance the needs of the show, the cast and the audience, all the while trying their best to make the sound system disappear. Without sound designers, mixers and A2's (the sound person backstage responsible for getting the mics on the actors and all the backstage sound gear) the very shows the League lauds would simply not be possible. Shows would simply be blocked so that all actors spoke downstage. Mics allow actors the freedom to face anywhere on the stage and speak or sing and be heard. Many Broadway performers would simply not be able to perform without mics because so many lack the kind of vocal training to hit the back of the house without a mic the way most British actors can.
It is a huge slap in the face of many in the industry to have Sound Design not recognized.
If you'd like to show your support, please sign the petition.
Reinstate the Tony Award for Sound Design
#17Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 8:52pmSeeing how the Tonys sound often sucks, it makes sense they are getting rid of Sound Design. They know nothing about it.
LostinTranslation
Chorus Member Joined: 3/13/14
#18Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:01pmThat is televised sound, not Broadway sound. And it's a live broadcast that has its own set of problems. Broadway designers have nothing to do with it.
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Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:06pmAmen, betty.
#20Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:13pmIsn't the sound designer tasked with finding sound effects too, such as an aircraft taking off or church bells ringing?
#21Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:13pmLost In Translation, I wasnt insulting the Broadway sound designers. I know they have nothing to do with it. The people associated with the Tonys are morons.
#22Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:37pmDo you think there will be some kind of protest to this? I remember when the drama desks left off orchestrations, JRB got really mad and made a petition and stuff. I know sound design less understood by the public than orchestrations are, but I still wouldn't be surprised if some Broadway sound designers spoke out against this in some way.
#23Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:41pm
A petition has already been started:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/470/217/554/reinstate-the-tony-award-categories-for-sound-design-now/#next_action
Joviedamian
Broadway Star Joined: 11/9/10
#24Breaking News: Tonys Change Rules for Revival Authors, Erases 2 Creative Categories...
Posted: 6/11/14 at 9:59pmIf they are going to change the rules, then I think any show (musical or play) that has NOT played Broadway before should ONLY be considered as a new piece. I really don't care if it's played the rounds at your local theater and or colleges and or it's very popular. If it hasn't played a Broadway house and the Tony committee is judging the qualifications based on what is on Broadway, then it should not be considered a revival. Violet played an Off-Broadway house 17 years ago...now it's on Broadway and considered a revival? Sorry, don't think so!
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