Broadway Legend Joined: 9/27/21
Sutton Ross said: "Yep, hopefully it will shut them up, especially if they didn't see the show. Good bump for several shows as the holidays arrive including Almost Famous which has gone up steadily in the past few weeks despite many posters wanting it to close. Whoops!"
Respectfully since that first line was absolutely aimed at me, why don't you shut up, because believe me I'm not going to
If people don't want to face the reality of what the seating charts are showing thats on you Kimberly is not going to survive on day of walk up sales and having advance sales a few weeks out at a time and is not scaling at the rate it needs to, the average ticket price is $84 even if the capacity is 100% that is 100% of people paying a third of what the top ticket price is on average, with a comped opening night they sold just over 80% of their seats last week and you could even buy tickets for opening night up until an hour before the show. This show has also yet to hit its nut once (which for the record is $500,000 believe it or not)
The week of Christmas the mezzanine is barely sold, this is one of the best weeks of the year and there are more unsold seats then sold, that is a fact and a reality, regardless of reviews, and peoples love for it (myself included) this show has a huge uphill battle to make it to the TONYs and Jesse Green's review even said as much
And because people think I have some axe to grand against it let me be clear this is an across the board issue, there is too much supply and not enough demand and potentially a dozen shows are going to post early notices in the next few weeks because the audiences are not there, I mean yes its only three performances but Ohio State Murders is playing to 50% with Audra McDonald? A production of A Christmas Carol which should be a easy sell has a average price of $21? Take Me Out which just won Best Play not even six months ago is playing to half empty houses?
People can fool themselves all they want but Broadway is in a bad state
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/22
I'm sorry but those are some poor, poor examples. I agree that a show like Akimbo should be sold out, and i'm hopeful word of mouth keeps it afloat until it truly catches on. And I've been saying for a while that the ticket prices are astronomical, dooming most shows, which is the result of either greed, or the astronomical cost of putting on a show.
But producers arent stupid. And they take risks in the hopes they will make money. A Christmas Carol? Thats a tourist trap that is unlikely to sell many tickets to New Yorkers or theater nerds. They know tourism is down and took a risk. Looks like a bad one.
Take Me Out? The show just closed a few months ago and was *not* playing to sold out houses at the time. Many here questioned the wisdom of reopening it given the absence of any demand for it.
Im not saying the situation is peachy keen; tourism is down, the suburbs are convinced Manhattan is drowning in crime. Piano Lesson, Topdog Underdog, Death of a Salesman, Hadestown, it kills me that these shows aren't sold out.
But some of the productions that producers decided to launch anyway-- KPOP, Aint No Mo-- are HARD sells for big Broadway houses with the softer audiences today. I wouldn't interpret that to mean The End of Broadway as much as a marked shift away from certain harder sells.
I feel like & Juliet, A Beautiful Noise, Almost Famous and even Kimberly Akimbo are all "trending up" to one degree or another. A Beautiful Noise is looking strong now but I think at some point it will peak and a show like Kimberly could just keep growing.
That being said, Some Like It Hot is generally trending up too but I remain pretty unimpressed by its number compared to some of the other new musicals. It doesn't seem to have the interest I thought it might but maybe good reviews would help it.
Understudy Joined: 10/15/21
Updated On: 11/16/22 at 07:57 AM
BoringBoredBoard40 said: Respectfully since that first line was absolutely aimed at me, why don't you shut up, because believe me I'm not going to"
Its not that you’re not making some valid points here; you’re just being “realistic.” But here’s the thing: none of us are stupid. We all know Broadway hasn’t bounced back, and so everything is interpreted through that lense. Frankly, Broadway may never bounce back to what it was pre-COVID, so when shows like Kimberly Akimbo start out slow and show a steady rise week-to-week, I believe that’s something to celebrate.
My issue with you is the seeming delight you take in doom-and-glooming around these boards of late. We don’t need you stepping in every time to give us Hard Reality. It’s getting boring (pun intended) and annoying.
“And NYC isn't "drowning with crime."”
Yes, WE (including the person you think you’re correcting) know this. Suburbia and the flyover states see headlines and news reports that are sensationalized to make it seem as if it is drowning in crime. That’s (I’m pretty sure) what that user was saying.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/20
I feel like...I should get a ticket for Hadestown sooner rather than later...those numbers make me anxious. Yes?
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/22
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "“And NYC isn't "drowning with crime."”
Yes, WE (including the person you think you’re correcting) know this. Suburbia and the flyover states see headlines and news reports that are sensationalized to make it seem as if it is drowning in crime. That’s (I’m pretty sure) what that user was saying."
Say wha? I wrote that the situation "isnt peachy keen" because tourism is down, and suburbanites think the city is too dangerous to visit. I'm AGREEING that those are factors in a downturn.
Understudy Joined: 10/15/21
PipingHotPiccolo said: "GiantsInTheSky2 said: "“And NYC isn't "drowning with crime."”
Yes, WE (including the person you think you’re correcting) know this. Suburbia and the flyover states see headlines and news reports that are sensationalized to make it seem as if it is drowning in crime. That’s (I’m pretty sure) what that user was saying."
Say wha? I wrote that the situation "isnt peachy keen" because tourism is down, and suburbanites think the city is too dangerous to visit. I'm AGREEING that those are factors in a downturn."
They are referring to my now deleted response where I misread your earlier post, Piping.
I haven't heard a single negative report on SLIH from attendees, but the show's soft box office suffers from: a title known to boomers and older, some of whom* remember Sugar; being another show about drag/drag attendant; lacking a bankable star. I think a name in one of the three roles would've sealed the deal, and am curious why none was found. Borle is beloved B'way, but not box office.
*I saw it as a teen, and it's resurfaced in stock over the decades with this title, rather than Here's Love becoming Miracle on 34th Street. The story has never been away, and Tony Curtis even toured with it, playing the older lecher.
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