Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 11/24/24- Page 3

[dan94]

Posted: 11/26/24 at 10:51pm

ACL2006 said: "Tammy Faye can't even give out comp tickets. 40% capacity in the Palace is pathetic."

It's also not a real 40%. It's 40% of what they put on sale.

If you look at that first preview number, one of the few performances where the balcony is open, the house appears to have a total potential capacity of 13,184. Which leaves them having sold/comped just over 32% of the house.

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 11/26/24 at 11:18pm

kdogg36 said: "MemorableUserName said: "It really has been fascinating to watch the vultures circling this show andwaiting for a closing announcement in a way I haven't reallyseen for another show in a while, not even Tammy Faye. It's understandable when the show is terrible, but the show doesn't seem to be hated, yet the vultures are voracious. I do wonder what it says about this show."

Nonsense. The vibe here, as elsewhere, is very positive on the show. People are just realistic about its financial future. (For the record, I had a ticket to see it earlier this month, couldn't make it, and now will see it on 12/7, and am very excited about it.)"

As someone who's read every post in the Reviews thread, nonsense is what you're dishing out. While the overall vibe is positive, there are more than a few posters who have made doomposting about the show their primary activity. CoffeeBreak hasn't had anything positive to say about the show, was proclaiming it was doomed before all the reviews were out, and anytime anyone says the grosses are up or anything positive is quick to jump in rebuttals to the negative ("the show is just being papered! All my many many many friends are seeing for free! The directors are elitist! Darren Criss isn't AAPI enough! EDSOSLO858, are you still hearing December 1 closing???" ) Ravanne_1 joined the site a month ago and primarily (and possibly solely--they're also hiding their post history) has been commenting on how terribly the show is doing and how any improvement isn't enough and how all hope is lost. There are a few others as well. Being realistic is one thing. When every comment someone makes about a show (and possibly on the board) is saying how horrible it's doing, it goes beyond realism. At some point one is just a vulture waiting for the time of death to be called so they can say Toldyaso! (And this is coming from someone who hasn't seen the show and still has no particular interest in doing so. But seeing the same few names constantly beating the same drum has been glaring.)

Updated On: 11/26/24 at 11:18 PM

[inception]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 1:56am

I don't know... there's a lot;of negative posts from users who seem to be rather long time members, but who I don't recall reading many previous posts from.  I can't help wondering if it is a smaller investor with money in another show who thinks that by picking on other shows it will boost the one they are involved with???  As if comments here make big waves?

Also some of the shows people are naming as wanting either the Belasco or Longacre for Spring... well I just don't see some of them being able to drum up much more business. Glenngary has a big name cast, but some of the others don't have a lot more going for them.  Even some of the shows with theatres: Boop, Smash, Real Women, Buena Vista Social Club -  those all look like tough sells.  At Lincoln Center I also wonder how well Floyd Collins will do,  even with Jeremy Jordan?  That could turn into another Camelot situation.  It's such a niche show, and a real bummer.  Last night I put on the Playwright Horizons cd for the first time in quite a few years, and balled my eyes out reading the liner notes.  If people think Swept Away is too dark for Broadway, will they take to FC?

kdogg36 said: "MemorableUserName said: "It really has been fascinating to watch the vultures circling this show andwaiting for a closing announcement in a way I haven't reallyseen for another show in a while, not even Tammy Faye. It's understandable when the show is terrible, but the show doesn't seem to be hated, yet the vultures are voracious. I do wonder what it says about this show."

Nonsense. The vibe here, as elsewhere, is very positive on the show. People are just realistic about its financial future. (For the record, I had a ticket to see it earlier this month, couldn't make it, and now will see it on 12/7, and am very excited about it.)"

 

[bear88]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 2:22am

I’m just hoping Maybe Happy Ending can make it to January, when my daughter who saw it a couple of weeks ago and loved it will be in New York City again. She plans to get an orchestra seat next time, if there is a next time.

This is the box office thread, so bottom line realism seems appropriate here. (It’s a bit over the top in some of the comments on the actual review thread.)

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 4:21am

inception said: "At Lincoln Center I also wonder how well Floyd Collins will do, even with Jeremy Jordan? That could turn into another Camelot situation. It's such a niche show, and a real bummer. Last night I put on the Playwright Horizons cd for the first time in quite a few years, and balled my eyes out reading the liner notes. If people think Swept Away is too dark for Broadway, will they take to FC?"

Despite the subject matter, I don't think Floyd Collins has the pervasive dark vibe of Swept Away.  What I recall from the two times I've seen the show is even a bit of upbeat (albeit perverse) energy from everyone flocking to see what is going on, as well as from the hope FC may be rescued and some of the music itself. 

If the production is strong, I could see extremely positive word of mouth making FC a must see show given how rarely it is performed, let alone on a major stage. 

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 8:49am

inception said: "I don't know... there's a lot;of negative posts from users who seem to be rather long time members, but who I don't recall reading many previous posts from. I can't help wondering if it is a smaller investor with money in another show who thinks that by picking on other shows it will boost the one they are involved with??? As if comments here make big waves?
 

That's silly for the very reason you cite: comments on here don't make "big waves" so I doubt investors are on here trying to hurt other shows by writing negative things. 
 

Updated On: 11/27/24 at 08:49 AM

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 8:53am

MemorableUserName said: "kdogg36 said: "MemorableUserName said: "It really has been fascinating to watch the vultures circling this show andwaiting for a closing announcement in a way I haven't reallyseen for another show in a while, not even Tammy Faye. It's understandable when the show is terrible, but the show doesn't seem to be hated, yet the vultures are voracious. I do wonder what it says about this show."

Nonsense. The vibe here, as elsewhere, is very positive on the show. People are just realistic about its financial future. (For the record, I had a ticket to see it earlier this month, couldn't make it, and now will see it on 12/7, and am very excited about it.)"

As someone who's read every post in the Reviews thread, nonsense is what you're dishing out. While the overall vibe is positive, there are more than a few posters who have made doomposting about the show their primary activity.CoffeeBreak hasn't had anything positive to say about the show, was proclaiming it was doomed before all the reviews were out,and anytime anyone says the grosses are up or anything positiveis quick to jump in rebuttals to the negative ("the show is just being papered! All my manymany many friends are seeing for free! The directors are elitist! Darren Criss isn't AAPI enough!EDSOSLO858, are you still hearing December 1 closing???" )Ravanne_1joined the site a month ago and primarily (and possibly solely--they're also hiding their post history) has been commenting on howterribly the show is doing and how any improvement isn't enough and how all hope is lost. There are a few others as well. Being realistic is one thing. When every comment someonemakes about a show (and possibly on the board) is saying how horrible it's doing, it goes beyond realism. At some point one is just a vulture waiting for the time of death to be called so theycan say Toldyaso! (And this is coming from someone who hasn't seen the show and still has no particular interest in doing so. But seeing the same few names constantly beating the same drum has been glaring.)"

Speculating that a show with dismal sales will probably close quickly isn't being a vulture, it's being realistic. 

[kurtal]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 9:04am

JasonC3 said: "If the production is strong, I could see extremely positive word of mouth making FC a must see show given how rarely it is performed, let alone on a major stage."

To me, How Glory Goes makes the whole show.  If the production -- and Jeremy -- nail this number, it could make for a real word of mouth hit.  

Honestly I'm cautiously optimistic.  I don't think it will be a runaway success a la South Pacific, but I think it could have a nice solid run.  And, given the female-heavy nature of this season, Jeremy could walk away with the Tony.  And I say this as not the biggest Jeremy Jordan fan in the world

 

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 9:38am

Swept Away is going to be Swept Away from Bway very soon. Go and see it 

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 9:39am

kurtal said: "To me, How Glory Goes makes the whole show. If the production -- and Jeremy -- nail this number, it could make for a real word of mouth hit."

The power of this number when I saw it at the Goodman along with the accompanying stage picture created are indelibly imprinted in my memory, so I think you're on to something.  Done well, it really sends the audience out buzzing.  Heaven knows Jordan has the voice to nail it.

 

[Ravanne_1]

Posted: 11/27/24 at 1:26pm

Bwaygurl2 said: "Speculating that a show with dismal sales will probably close quickly isn't being a vulture, it's being realistic."

Exactly. I get that there are a lot of people here who have a deep investment in the show but I'm not one of them. I enjoy the theater but this is a show that does not interest me personally and I'm not particularly a fan of the cast. So I look at it from an academic/business perspective. And MHE would not be the first show that has a devoted fanbase but did not do especially well at the box office. (Likewise, there are some shows that I look at and wonder how they survived as long as they have.) I'm frankly expecting this to be a much better week for MHE with the tourist crowds in for the holiday. What I'm realistic about is that a few good weeks (or good for them) is not going to be enough to sustain the show over the long run. 

And just because I've only been on this board briefly doesn't mean that I shouldn't express my opinion, even if it is a contrary one.