Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 11/24/24 — Page 2

CoffeeBreak said: "MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "Cabaret is really in trouble."

Auli'i endedout all of last week for Moana 2.
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I know. And as I mentioned, both she and Lambert have many more planned absences through the rest of their run. Unless the production can score an A-List casting coup, there is a high chance the production closes with these two. And at a truly staggering loss.

I never really understood Cabaret's gameplan. It never seemed sustainable short of constantly having a Redmayne-level celebrity in the cast at all times or the production becoming such an event that it didn't matter who was in it- and both seemed like a massive stretch even before the negative reviews and word of mouth.

Meanwhile, it seems like Tammy Faye will be closing with a whimper. I can't recall the last time audiences seemed to have such an active aversion to a musical like this.

Tammy Faye can't even give out comp tickets. 40% capacity in the Palace is pathetic.

ACL2006 said: "Tammy Faye can't even give out comp tickets. 40% capacity in the Palace is pathetic."

They couldn't even fill their opening night house and they were extremely generous with giving people tickets for it. They couldn't even get many big names to attend.

Updated On: 11/26/24 at 02:57 PM

The breakeven figure for MHE that I had heard from someone involved is $750K.

Amy Archer said: "The breakeven figure for MHE that I had heard from someone involved is $750K."

And we need to keep in mind these this is the bare minimum it takes just to cover their weekly expenses. It does nothing to pay back the investors for the millions in development costs. A show that is pulling in less than $600k weekly (not to mention losing 1/4 of all available seats that week) is not successful. Yes, the grosses are a lot better but this show is still not in a great place. They had better capacity when tickets were deeply discounted, but lost significant capacity when prices increased on a somewhat more normal level.

Either way, the show is several weeks into its run and still not making back it's operating costs. I don't know what it's going to take to turn this around, or if anything can before they run out of money to keep it open.

Tammy Faye is such an epic flop. I feel like we have not seen a flop at this level in quite some time.

Maybe Happy Endings.... regardless of the break even discussion, it seems to be on an OK trajectory. Best case scenario is probably turning into a Kimberly Akimbo but that'll be tough because even though it is the best reviewed new show so far, it doesn't seem like it will remain the "it" show with critics through the spring the way Kimberly did. So I still anticipate a January closing though I do think it has a prayer.

Swept Away will be gone in January too, if not before.

I am very curious to see what Gatsby looks like after Jeremy Jordan leaves. It has exceeded my expectations for its entire run so far.

MHE would've certainly been helped by starting sometime in late Feb-March. Its upwards trajectory is good, but we have to remember that after the holiday high, there will be a 2-3 month period that is tough even for shows that are doing well. Making it to awards season is a tall order for it now.

MemorableUserName said: "TigerBait88 said: "Also, it says a lot about this show that MHE is getting almost all of the discussion vs Swept Way/Wonderful World struggling as well. I’m still hopeful that MHE will be ok for at least a little while."

It really has been fascinating to watch the vultures circling this show andwaiting for a closing announcement in a way I haven't reallyseen for another show in a while, not even Tammy Faye. It's understandable when the show is terrible, but the show doesn't seem to be hated, yet the vultures are voracious. I do wonder what it says about this show.

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I think the heated discussion is due to four groups:

1. Passionate fans who love the show and/or original shows as a whole. They know it’s hanging on week-by-week or even day-by-day. This past weekend’s sellouts likely saved the show from a closing notice. They’re on edge. Many are acting like mothers protecting their young in this case.

2. If r/broadway is any indication, there are people thirsty for this show to close so they can see a show THEY love transfer in like Dead Outlaw, Gun & Powder or Glengarry. They seem to be the most ruthless of the hypothetical vultures waiting for a kill.

3. The fans of other shows view MHE as a Tony threat. Regardless of what show they support, it definitely seems that some fans of other shows (and some shows still yet to come) can see that MHE is likely to get TONY love if it survives. This is a smaller group but I surely think they exist within the vultures.

4. The so-called “experts” on here who only care about being correct about the show’s future so they can gain clout. It’s a lot safer to predict doom for MHE than it is to be optimistic right now so they’re constantly spamming doom.


It’s all quite fascinating. I’m just over here hoping more discussion leads to more sales.

Updated On: 11/26/24 at 04:41 PM

Amy Archer said: “ I am not moving the goal posts, and do not care one way or anotherabout the fate of thatparticular show. The figure I quoted is from someone involved on the financial end of MHE, rather than the notoriously unreliable poster on Reddit, who makes up his own breakeven figures."

I get you’re a long time poster but this is basically the equivalent of saying your source is “Trust me, bro.” At least I admit the Reddit guy may be full of crap. I’m merely suggesting now that it’s getting to the point it feels that even if the show posted a million dollar week next week there would still be someone saying it’s doomed. Not you necessarily but someone.

Updated On: 11/26/24 at 04:56 PM

Jordan Catalano said: "I’ve also been told “Cabaret” is planning to close up shop sometime first quarter of next year and the amount of money that will be lost by that production (if true) is just staggering."

Cabaret has chosen this God awful photo of Adam Lambert which I see being plastered all over the city and all over internet. If I were to choose which show to see on Broadway, this photo alone would repel me from buying a ticket. I still haven't figured out how to insert photos on this board.

I have not heard one good thing about Tammy Faye from the general audiences lol