Broadway Legend Joined: 1/30/15
How is KPOP only pulling Dana H numbers (and that was coming back from the shutdown)? Are people that alienated by the show not being entirely in English? Would supertitles help? Jeez.
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
Well sh*t. Looks like the Broadway audience are racists!
(That’s the line, right? That’s what we’re all meant to say now, right?)
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/29/13
Both Beautiful Noise and Some Like It Hot started previews this week and had partial weeks. Neil Diamond did 5 shows and Some Like It Hot did 6.
Beautiful Noise with one less show outgrossed Some Like it Hot by over $300K.
At that pace, had it had a full week, Beautiful Noise would have grossed $1.3 million-plus.
BorisTomashevsky said: "Well sh*t. Looks like the Broadway audience are racists!
(That’s the line, right? That’s what we’re all meant to say now, right?)"
You okay?
Stand-by Joined: 5/5/17
KPOP at a $35 average is really sad. Does is close right after it opens?
It used to happen more often in the 60s-80s that shows would close on opening night. When is the last time that happened recently? Glory Days in 2008?
Sauja said: "It’s a bit heartbreaking that brilliant productions of plays are struggling as much as they are. I wish Cost of Living went out higher. But it’s the Topdog/Underdog numbers that I can’t understand. Almost every review was a rave, but they can’t find an audience. While a Neil Diamond biomusical is packing them in at wild prices. It’s not great news in my view."
That’s part of the history of Broadway though, isn’t it? Tourists largely want to see something on Broadway that isn’t too challenging, something glittery and big. Something that fits their stereotypical definition of what they think Broadway is. Something entertaining. Something they can tell the people back home about. Something that is a known quantity because it’s a bio-musical that appeals to their nostalgia or a beloved movie-to-stage adaptation or a Tony-winner for Best Musical or a long-running show. Of course, there are quality productions to be found in all those categories. Just to say that non-theater-nerd tourists don’t necessarily have “challenging” and “intimate” at the top of their lists when they start considering what show to see on their trip. That also probably applies to a lot of NYCers (I’ve met a lot of NYCers who have never seen a show) and the bridge-and-tunnel crowd. If they’re gonna splurge on seeing a show and all that’s involved in that (for bridge and tunnel crowd, that may involve driving in, an expensive meal and parking and getting home late at night), they want a “sure thing.”
I know a woman here in Oklahoma who would go to NYC every year with her significant other and the only show they’d see every trip was Phantom. No other shows ever.
The good news is that even if the tourists are seeing a show that some of us might not consider “quality” (a subjective term for sure) then the investors for those shows can use their profits from those big hits to fund other more intimate & challenging theater that may not recoup.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/19
BETTY22 said: "Both Beautiful Noise and Some Like It Hot started previews this week and had partial weeks. Neil Diamond did 5 shows and Some Like It Hot did 6.
Beautiful Noise with one less show outgrossed Some Like it Hot by over $300K.
At that pace, had it had a full week, Beautiful Noise would have grossed $1.3 million-plus."
True. Neil Diamond had lots of really positive feedback from its Boston pre-Broadway run, which definitely generated some hype. Great for everyone in that company!
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
TotallyEffed said: "BorisTomashevsky said: "Well sh*t. Looks like the Broadway audience are racists!
(That’s the line, right? That’s what we’re all meant to say now, right?)"
You okay?"
Just great honey.
Broadway Star Joined: 1/19/08
A Beautiful Noise numbers are very very impressive. Almost too impressive. I wouldn't put anything past the producer. Let's see how they are in a month.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/24/14
''A Beautiful Noise'' had a great start, didn't know Neil Diamond had that much of a fanbase. Let's see how they will be in a few weeks.
I look next dates for ''Some Like It Hot'' and it's not exactly good
''& Juliet'' has a good start, it will likely get close to 1m soon.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/27/21
Any of those musicals making under $500k a week are in trouble
K-Pop is absolutely going to be gone by New Years
A Beautiful Noise should crack the $1 million dollar club soon. It's advance is fairly strong with weekends nearly sold-out until the end of the year.
"A Beautiful Noise" is looking like it might be the next "Beautiful". Catering to the older crowd who spend their money on a very safe, and familiar bet. I'm slightly surprised by it, especially since these boards have been super quiet about this show. It is clearly catering to the "bridge and tunnel" crowd. It's actually quite impressive. Meanwhile every other new musical is struggling.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
VintageSnarker said: "How is KPOP only pulling Dana H numbers (and that was coming back from the shutdown)? Are people that alienated by the show not being entirely in English? Would supertitles help? Jeez."
I don't think most people are even interested in it enough to find out it's not all in English, let alone be alienated by that fact. The plot summary reads like a bad TV movie with the superstar singer haunted by her inner demons who needs to pull it together to save her label or whatever the heck it's supposed to be. Why would anyone expect a Broadway audience to be fascinated by the behind the scenes world of K-pop?
K-POP has always felt like a really risky bet for a commercial run and their numbers are proving that point. Oooof!
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/27/21
VintageSnarker said: "How is KPOP only pulling Dana H numbers (and that was coming back from the shutdown)? Are people that alienated by the show not being entirely in English? Would supertitles help? Jeez."
because they did a $19 ticket firesale which has clearly backfired
BorisTomashevsky said: "Well sh*t. Looks like the Broadway audience are racists!
(That’s the line, right? That’s what we’re all meant to say now, right?)"
Huh????????
Sauja said: "It’s a bit heartbreaking that brilliant productions of plays are struggling as much as they are. I wish Cost of Living went out higher. But it’s the Topdog/Underdog numbers that I can’t understand. Almost every review was a rave, but they can’t find an audience. While a Neil Diamond biomusical is packing them in at wild prices. It’s not great news in my view."
The tourists currently clogging Times Square don’t have the slightest idea what Topdog/Underdog is and if they did know it was a grim two character play about two brothers living in a run down apartment, I doubt they would go see it anyway, despite all the reviews and awards the play has. They want a big splashy musical and the Neil Diamond jukebox show fits the bill with them.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/19
I think the marketing / logo for KPop isn’t great. It’s too simple and doesn’t give you much insight. They need to lean into the live convert feel. It’s got decent word of Mount from friends online.
I thought that "Death of a Salesman" was going to be no brainer and a much bigger hit but their numbers have been really lack-luster.
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
Matt Rogers said: "BorisTomashevsky said: "Well sh*t. Looks like the Broadway audience are racists!
(That’s the line, right? That’s what we’re all meant to say now, right?)"
Huh????????"
Producers gave what was demanded, which is more POC stories onstage, and for almost a year those stories have been absolutely not reeling them in and have instead been losing money.
So now we should blame the clearly-racist audience for not buying tickets, right? That’s the next verse of how the song goes, no?
Exaggeration to illustrate the point, but the elephant in the room is that people simply don’t want to see much of what only made it to Broadway because producers had their arms twisted over the past two years. Rather than anyone being incredulous about why people aren’t flocking to Topdog/Underdog, maybe what should be acknowledged is that the audience for it just doesn’t exist right now.
BorisTomashevsky said: "So now we should blame the clearly-racist audience for not buying tickets, right? That’s the next verse of how the song goes, no?"
You need some overalls for that straw man?
Broadway Star Joined: 4/30/22
TotallyEffed said: "What an asinine thing to say."
So say something else.
Bill Snibson said: "I thought that "Death of a Salesman" was going to be no brainer and a much bigger hit but their numbers have been really lack-luster."
Maybe they shouldn’t have yanked the discount code the day the reviews came out. Maybe people in post pandemic America don’t have $183.00 to spend, per ticket, on a play that has been revived to death already, And yes, I know it’s always at TKTS and there are cheaper seats in the back and high in the rafters.
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