Create The "Best Replacement" Tony Award Immediately So Marin Can Win
Create The "Best Replacement" Tony Award Immediately So Marin Can Win
#1Create The "Best Replacement" Tony Award Immediately So Marin Can Win
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:04pm
Words can't fully describe Marin's performance in THE KING AND I. It's pure bliss from beginning to end and one of the best things you'll ever see. I'm walking home now from the show on cloud nine, unable to (and not even wanting to) stop smiling.
ChiTheaterFan
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/9/15
#2Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:07pm
I'm going to catch this next week when I'm in town.
Jordan did you see it with Kelli as well?
ChiTheaterFan
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/9/15
#4Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:14pm
Wow! High praise indeed. Can't wait.
By the way I have no idea why BWW weirdly cutoff the thread subject line in my response...
#5Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:16pm
RACHEL TUCKER !!!
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AnnieBlack
Leading Actor Joined: 4/3/14
#6Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:16pm
Its unbelievably stupid that the replacement tony doesn't exist. It would be a great boon for long running shows and an incentive for significant performers to go into a production where they aren't 'originating'. I see no downside- maybe someone can tell me why they won't add it.
#7Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:25pm
AND Rebecca Luker in Fun Home!
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#8Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:26pm
How long is Marin set to perform in the King and I for? And how was Daniel's performance? I'm not familiar with him and also curious as to who his replacement will be. I'm really trying to see a couple of shows within the next few months but I'm not sure if I can fit them in all so close together.
#9Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:31pm
Great news about Marin, Jordan. Thanks.
Annie, part of the reason a Best Replacement Tony cannot happen is because the nominating committee would then have to see EVERY replacement in EVERY show all year and then ALL of the voters (about 900 of them) would have to go and see (or have seen) ALL of those replacements when they happen. This would be an untenable situation.
The second part of the reason is that one would be required to sit thru Phantom every year.
GreasedLightning
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/11/14
#10Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 10:36pm
Mike Costa said: "Great news about Marin, Jordan. Thanks.
Annie, part of the reason a Best Replacement Tony cannot happen is because the nominating committee would then have to see EVERY replacement in EVERY show all year and then ALL of the voters would have to go and see (or have seen) those replacements when they happen. This would be an untenable situation.
The second part of the reason is that one would be required to sit thru Phantom every year.
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The turnover rate is not that rapid for most long running shows so I wouldn't call this impossible.
#11Create The
Posted: 5/10/16 at 11:13pm
When the Best Replacement Tony did briefly exist, I believe the rules were that the productions would submit actors to the nominating committee for consideration. So they wouldn't have to show up to see every replacement in every show.
Unfortunately, it was mishandled from the beginning, and instead of trying again next year, they tossed the baby out with the bathwater.
It's unfortunate. The best actors won't replace because there's no professional glory in it, but with more theatres being taken up by successful, long running productions, the fewer opportunities there are for new musicals to showcase those actors.
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RippedMan
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#12Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:36am
I used my LincTix last year for Kelly. Would it work again for Marin? Or is there a rush?
Cupid Boy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/5/13
#13Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:48am
RippedMan said: "I used my LincTix last year for Kelly. Would it work again for Marin? Or is there a rush?"
It works once per production. There is a college student rush.
#14Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 10:34am
We got tix through TDF, which are right around the same price as rush, I believe.
AnnieBlack
Leading Actor Joined: 4/3/14
#15Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 11:04am
If the nominating committee saw all eligible performers, that would be only 35 people or so needing tickets- and if there are, for sake of argument, 5 nominees, wouldn't the attention that those long running 5 shows get be reason another for the producers to give the 700 voters tickets? It just seems like a win win situation to me
#16Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 11:08am
Frankly, I think it would just be easier to allow producers to submit notable replacement performers in the appropriate acting categories. Replacement acting isn't any different than regular acting.
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#17Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 11:13am
Broadway has such amazing leading ladies at present (and I'm sure at other times in the past too)
West End has Linzi Hately and um...
Glad to hear you loved this!
#18Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 11:19am
I'm really praying that this is the cast that films the Live From Lincoln Centet broadcast.
#19Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 11:22am
A former nominating committee member once said that the replacement award was ultimately deemed pointless, as very few replacements in Broadway shows do more than (basically) recreate or do only a slight variation upon their predecessor's performance (it's possible that Mazzie is one of the rare exceptions). It would be a struggle to find four worthy nominees each season.
#20Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 11:46am
The problem with adding actors who are replacements to the regular acting categories is that often a great role in a long-running production could end up monopolizing a particular category. For example, it's hard for me to think that Estelle Parsons wouldn't have won a Tony for replacing Deanna Dunagan's Tony-winning performance in AUGUST: OSAGE COUNTY or, in this case, for Marin Mazzie not to win a Tony for replacing Kelli O'Hara's Tony-winning performance in THE KING & I.
I will say, there's a committee in place whose job is to sort this type of issues and find a solution. The solution is not to deny these great performances of the chance of receiving a Tony award for Tony-worthy performances. The Tonys simply cannot operate the way TV or film awards do. They need to figure out a way to adapt to the nature of theatre, which largely has to do with replacements. There are so many great replacement performances each year, they should absolutely be recognized.
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#21Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:16pm
newintown said: "A former nominating committee member once said that the replacement award was ultimately deemed pointless, as very few replacements in Broadway shows do more than (basically) recreate or do only a slight variation upon their predecessor's performance (it's possible that Mazzie is one of the rare exceptions). It would be a struggle to find four worthy nominees each season.
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This is something that bothers me about a lot of long running shows- the replacement sometimes feels like a lesser copy of the original (kind of like a faded photograph). I think it would give a show a burst of life when someone comes in and (with the help of the director) reinvigorates that role (eg Reba in Annie get your Gun) - I think the replacement award could not only benefit the performer, but artistically, benefit the show by keeping it fresh.
#22Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:27pm
The one year the Replacement Tony existed, it was designed to basically be optional and only given out if they felt there was someone worthy of it, and they didn't award it to anyone. I still have a pretty distinct memory of Jonathan Pryce, who was in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels at the time, being kind of like, "Wow thanks on behalf of all the replacement actors this season." On the one hand, I understand it being built that way -- awarding instances of an exemplary replacement role, and that doesn't actually exist every season. But the blowback over building the award and then giving it to no one its first year basically sunk it.
#23Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:33pm
ray-andallthatjazz86 said: "The problem with adding actors who are replacements to the regular acting categories is that often a great role in a long-running production could end up monopolizing a particular category. For example, it's hard for me to think that Estelle Parsons wouldn't have won a Tony for replacing Deanna Dunagan's Tony-winning performance in AUGUST: OSAGE COUNTY or, in this case, for Marin Mazzie not to win a Tony for replacing Kelli O'Hara's Tony-winning performance in THE KING & I.."
Well, that could be just as true of a Best Replacement category- a category that could also end up pitting actors in featured roles against leads.
I think adding replacements to the mix of the general acting categories potentially would only allow really worthwhile replacements (as opposed to every Elphaba or whatever) to rise to the top while still fairly assessing them in relation to other performances.
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#24Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:36pm
If the Hamilhaters are complaining now, imagine how bad it would be if someone was nominated for best actor from the show for 5 years in a row...
#25Create The
Posted: 5/11/16 at 12:45pm
Theoretically, if this award existed now, could Rannells be nominated for best replacement for the same role as Goff is nominated for best supporting?
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