Did the tony awards know about Harvey?

[Call_me_jorge]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#1

Posted: 10/15/17 at 10:28pm

Finding Neverland not being nominated for any tony awards makes so much more sense now.

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[gypsy101]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#2

Posted: 10/15/17 at 10:31pm

1) basically everyone in entertainment knew. i feel like it was not a very well-kept secret and even i have heard things about it for years

2) finding neverland was a crapfest

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[trpguyy]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#3

Posted: 10/15/17 at 10:34pm

Everyone in the business knew, at the very least, that he's incredibly sleazy. And yeah, Finding Neverland was a steaming garbage heap, hence the lack of nominations.

[ChildofEarth]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#4

Posted: 10/16/17 at 6:10am

Didn't Harvey himself say that the lack of nominations was an attack on him and not an attack on the show? (Both. It was both.)

[mc1227]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#5

Posted: 10/16/17 at 7:15am

My guess is that the slight was a combo of Weinstein's attempt to control Broadway as well as his sleazy reputation.  A better production might have changed the result but there was a subtle backlash before this show even opened.  That had to be a direct result of Weinsteins involvement.  

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[Kad]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#6

Posted: 10/16/17 at 10:40am

Weinstein's acts as producer of the musical alone would have been sufficient to turn voters against him. The fact the musical sucked, too.

I don't know if anyone can point to his known harassment as being a deciding factor here. People didn't like him for a ton of reasons.

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[IdinaBellFoster]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#7

Posted: 10/16/17 at 10:41am

The show is awful. It didn't need Harvey to sink it.

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[Kad]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#8

Posted: 10/16/17 at 10:45am

Harvey alone probably DID end up sinking it. He was heavily involved with every aspect of its creation, including sacking the original writing team (including Scott Frankel and Michael Korie). It was his baby and he called the shots.

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

Updated On: 10/16/17 at 10:45 AM

[uncageg]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#9

Posted: 10/16/17 at 11:20am

I enjoyed the show.

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[evic]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#10

Posted: 10/16/17 at 11:23am

Did Sandy Duncan rebuff his advances? Is that why she was fired?  It was common knowledge that Harvey inflated the grosses every week to make it seem like FN was a hit.  FLOP!

[dramamama611]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#11

Posted: 10/16/17 at 11:29am

If you think that the Tony Awards have more morals than Hollywood....I think you'd be sad to find out the truth.    I doubt THAT is a reason they'd withhold noms from the show.  (Petty reasons, yes.)

 

And yes, most of Hollywood seemed to know, so the real question is: Why did it take so long???

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[trpguyy]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#12

Posted: 10/16/17 at 1:42pm

evic said: "Did Sandy Duncan rebuff his advances? Is that why she was fired? It was common knowledge that Harvey inflated the grosses every week to make it seem like FN was a hit. FLOP!"

Uh, no. Sandy Duncan simultaneously attempted to reinvent the (small) role in which she was cast, while also not being able to remember any of her lines or blocking. 

[nsguy45]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#13

Posted: 10/17/17 at 10:16am

Every young female performer on Broadway knew enough not to find herself alone with Richard Rodgers in his prime. His reputation as a hound was legendary. 

[James885]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#14

Posted: 10/17/17 at 11:04am

dramamama611 said: "If you think that the Tony Awards have more morals than Hollywood....I think you'd be sad to find out the truth. 

The whole casting couch mentality is definitely not limited to only Hollywood. 


 

 

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[Sunny11]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#15

Posted: 10/17/17 at 11:19am

Well Harvey's name is attached to 9 Tony awards and many more nominations as producer. That includes juggernauts like Billy Elliot. If they did know they didn't care since about 2000.

[johannabarker]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#16

Posted: 10/17/17 at 6:02pm

Hmm, maybe that's why James Barbour's never been nominated for a Tony. Besides from being a terrible actor.

[lizzyzigs]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#17

Posted: 10/17/17 at 6:31pm

Was wondering this SAME thing....

[rodrigo_ca]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#18

Posted: 10/17/17 at 7:21pm

Everyone knew. It just took someone brave enough to actually speak out against him.

[CallMeAl2]

Did the tony awards know about Harvey?#19

Posted: 10/18/17 at 4:32pm

Everyone knew? Knew what? That Harvey was a letch? Sure. So? Are you going to disqualify a show from awards because a producer /  creator is a dirty old man? You will have a very short show.

Don't cross the streams here. The Harvey story was business as usual until someone publicly stood up and told their story and accused him of behavior that put his company in legal jeopardy. And nobody knew that until the victim stepped forward. That is what is different now from six months ago. 

The current storm is a reaction to the victims who are speaking up, not to Harvey's reputation. And that is a recent event.